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Wilt / Mac 's Ages
editOkay, someone, I HAVE NO IDEA WHO, has been flipping Wilt's age to 35, then when I check again the age is 32, and then it flips to 23 (what?). Who the heck is doing this? Please (I watch Foster's Home, but I don't know Wilt's real age,) whoever knows the true age, and I'm gonna guess 28, post it on FOR THE GOOD OF ALL. Sheesh... If you've really got the urge to change, then be SURE of the age first. Anyways, also okay William may be Wilt's real name, but Foster? No, dude, Foster isn't his last name. CHANGE IT.
Now for Mac. HIS AGE IS EIGHT. OKAY? GOT THAT? It's fair enough that eight-year-olds finally get some joy of their age being shown on T.V.! I mean, most writers put it so that the kid vida is ten. Mac IS NOT ten. The episode showing his birthday was just a scene from the past. Or maybe some people get too mixed up with Timmy Turner from Nickelodeon. Mac is eight.
- Wilt's real name is Wilt, Wilt's age is not stated, Mack is not 8, sign your comments. Mack-the-random 23:51, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
Cutting Down the Article
editI had cut back on most of the charachters in the article because they are not very notable charachters at all (most of which only appearing in one episode!). I also shortened Jackie's section because it was too list-like and poorly written.
Stop reverting my edits! Not every single charachter that exsisted on the show should by in this article, only the notable ones!
Worst Grammer
editI suggest the people that are writing the characters bio get their facts and grammer straight. I've seen bad writing skills but this is by far the worst in Wikipedia. Are 3 year olds writing this? Please people start writing correctly. Need an example scroll down to the character "Electric Extreme-o-Saur" thats a good example of gibberish.
Moving characters
editI am glad that Goo and Cheese were moved to the list of main characters because they appeared in more then just one episode plus they are good with the fans.
- Though I'm glad you've taken the time to praise your own actions, those characters belong here. They aren't quite recurring enough to warrent their inclusion as essential (main). – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 17:53, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
- (Haha..) I agree that it's still too soon to include them. Yes, they're popular, which is why they're appearing in more new episodes. But it's still about two to four episodes compared to almost all 40 or so that have aired so far (that feature most or all of the main characters). Goo and Cheese were probably never meant to become main cast at all; fan support has taken them this far, so it would take a lot more appearances (in not only episodes, but on posters and merchandise) for them to be considered primary. --Crisu 18:37, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
- I think Goo at least will qualify as a main character before long if this paperback 8x8 and Goo's appearances thus far in the 4th season are any indication. As far as I'm aware, "Mac Daddy" is, or at least has been, more popular than "Go Goo Go" despite not being nominated for an emmy (which the latter has been). Also, Lauren Faust's TV.com SN is "Girl Named Goo" according to this review. --Juigi Kario (Charge! * My crusades) 05:05, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
- If that is the case then I believe that Terrence should be considered in the secondary character because even though he is Mac's brother he also has not been in enough episodes to be considered a main character. Or should at least move their soon if there are no currnet furture appearences.
- I am also glad the Ratchet&daxter got rid of the junk yard kid as one of the main characters he appeared in what 1 episode and was barely popular in that.
- Why isn't Stevie on of the Secondary characters if you have ivan you should have stevie.
Under the entry for the imaginary puppies, it might be worth mentioning that regarding Eduardo's choice of name for the puppy, 'Chewy' might be a pun on 'Chuy', actually an affectionate diminuitive of the name 'Jesus', common in some Spanish-speaking countries. You can see an example of it in Guillermo del Toro's Mimic, where the little boy is called Chuy by his grandfather. Seeing how Eduardo gave the pink elephant toy another Spanish nickname (Paco), it somehow makes sense. toonbat@yahoo.com
does Cheese need his own article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.175.138.202 (talk) 15:24 (PST), October 14, 2006.
- So would the characters in the main group of characters (including or as well as Goo). But then again, them having their own articles is probably overdue. In fact, a Wikia was suggested for FHFIF. --Juigi Kario (Charge! * My crusades) 01:52, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
My suggestion
editI suggest you:
- "Single-episode characters" section sorted by season
- "Other characters" section covers the characters appears lesser than 1 minute
--성혀니talk with mesee my work 03:18, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
- Sorting by season is bad. It makes it more difficult to find characters that you can't associate a season with. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 03:26, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
Dexter did NOT cameo
editWhy do people keep putting that Dexter was that kid in "Eddie Monster". He may look slightly similar, but it isnt him, especially since the voice is very different. He even has brown pants on. I guess everyone who has red hair, glasses, and a white shirt is automatically Dexter. Stop adding it, because it was just based on a fan assuming it was him. If it was Dexter, he would at least have the right voice, since CN holds the rights to Dexter. If it was on Nickelodeon, there could be room for argument, but since this is Cartoon Network, the answer to Dexter's cameo appearance is NO. If Dexter ever has a real cameo on Fosters, his character design from Dexter's Laboratory would be unaltered (or at least slightly altered to fit the fosters style like they did with the Ed's), and his voice would stay the same, and he wont be wearing brown pants. To anyone: if you keep adding it, I'll keep removing it. End of story. DietLimeCola 05:53, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
- You're going to break the three-revert rule by doing that, and in doing so will get banned. It's clearly meant to be Dexter. They do not necessarily have to use the same voice, nor do they have to look exactly the same. Stop removing things for half-baked reasons. Also, cameo is not a verb. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 05:56, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
- Like I said, if it was meant to be Dexter, they would of just used the Dexter from Dexter's Laboratory, there would be no reason to put a "modified" Dexter in a show that McCracken worked on and that CN has the rights too. Its a coincidence, get a grip. And Im not removing it for a half baked reason, I'm removing it for one simple reason: it's false information. PS you just violated the 3 revert rule, I only reverted twice, but you did 3 times. Enjoy your ban. DietLimeCola 06:09, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
- It's not false information. It's a different animation style and thus a different version of Dexter. Does the concept of a parody not get to you? You don't create an exact copy when doing a parody of a work. You create a likeness and use that to lampoon the character in question. Now for the more straightforward responses. Look at the damn picture. Look at his mannerisms. Look at his glasses. You cannot logically claim that is meant to be anything but Dexter when the Eds appear right next to him. You're trying to exclude him for no reason and you're not even being complete about it. Also, 3RR requires four reverts, so don't act all high and mighty when you're in the wrong. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 06:15, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
- "Dexter has made cameo appearances in The Powerpuff Girls, I Am Weasel, Time Squad, and The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy. He has also been seen as a balloon in Codename: Kids Next Door." I've seen all these cameos except Billy and Mandy, and his design is 100% the same, even in all the other shows that have different animation styles. So why just change it for Fosters? I'm not being high and mighty, I'm just trying to remove false information, and you keep adding that lie over and over again. I stand firm on my previous statement, if it was meant to be Dexter, it would be the same design, and at LEAST, the same voice. (Candi Milo who does Coco and Madame Foster also did Dexter in the later seasons, so it would be no hassle to get her to do Dexter for one line.) Though the Ed's are modified to fit the style, they wear the same clothes, and have all the notable character design features they do in Ed Edd 'n Eddy, just a different drawing style. And finally, you have no proof to back up your case besides "it kinda looks like him". If it was "Dexter" in the credits, then yes its Dexter. If Craig says its Dexter, then its Dexter. But for now, we have NO proof that its actually Dexter, but a child that LOOKS a little like Dexter. It isnt Dexter, The end. DietLimeCola 06:22, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
- It should be noted that, while the Ed, Edd, and Eddy lookalikes have been altered somewhat to fit the style of the show, a couple of key traits are wrong - namely Edd (black stocking cap) doesn't keep his eyes covered in Ed, Edd 'n Eddy, and in that show, each of them has a very distinctive walk. When the three are shown walking away from the crate, those distinctive walks are missing. Are we certain these three are intended as cameos rather than an homage? (Vanessaezekowitz 21:29, 27 January 2007 (UTC))
- Not the end, because you have not provided any solid evidence contradicting the fact that it's a parody. You have provided your own opinion and seem hellbent on enforcing it. Every TV site I go to lists Dexter as a part of that episode, You are going against the combined observations of several independent sources to enforce your own beliefs. You cannot prove that the character in question is not meant to be Dexter. He acts exactly like Dexter. Just because he doesn't look like him doesn't make it not him. It is obviously meant to be a parody. You're simply overanalyzing the situation to make your opinion seem valid. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 06:28, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
- I dont care who says it's Dexter (Except for someone who actually works on the show). Wikipedia is supposed to have facts. Once again, if they wanted to cameo Dexter, they would of used the design from the actual show (like his other 5 cameos in other shows). It's called a coincidence. The reason all those sites have that information is mainly because they either saw this site or Tv.com or any other site where a fan assumed it was Dexter, and thought of it to be true. But the thing is, it isn't true. So just stop, sure he looks a little like him and acts a little like him, but that doesn't make him Dexter. He had one line, where he was proud of his imaginary friend, and looked confident. Thats it. If you can get some REAL proof on this matter (not sites who saw this site and assumed it was true), then I'll shut up, but for now, it's not Dexter. DietLimeCola 06:37, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
- You say coincidence, I say parody. In either case, it's our opinions, and my opinion is far more accepted than your abstract view is. Until you can quote McCraken saying that's it's just a coincidence, it's your own original research supplanting accepted consensus on the matter at hand. This is a concept you don't seem to grasp. You've thought up all these reasons to support your view, but in the end he's a look alike on another Cartoon Network shows whose characters are deliberately different in some cases. You need to prove otherwise. The burden of proof lies on you, because trivia is inherently observational. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 06:41, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
Why are you so determined for it not to be dexter? Do you have something against him?? It IS dexter. For what other reason then for a cameo/parody/play/whatever-you-wanna-call-it would Dexter and the Ed's be included in that 5 second bit. He acts like Dexter, that's all that really matters. It should also be noted that in the episode of powerpuff girls that dexter had a cameo in, his design wasn't exactly the same. It was a bit more poofy like the powerpuff girls style and his face kind of curved out more, like in the pilot episodes. You can't see the changes right away because McCracken worked on Dexter AND Genndy Tartakov. worked on PPG, making their animation and art styles pretty similar. On the other hand, the art style from PPG to Foster's is considerably different (character designs more complex, lines uneven and messy to give the effect of pastels), so dexter's style was different. Maybe I'm going a bit to deep into this matter of animation styles and stuff but really, it is intended to be dexter, get over it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.186.101.182 (talk) 00:13, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
Plethora of fair-use images
editI could be wrong, but I believe the last time I saw a secondary characters page like this, consensus was that using tons of fair-use images to illustrate every character was a bad thing. Its also worth noting that a lot of the images uploaded as fair-use have no explanation of why they qualify as fair use, and they may end up being deleted because of that (some already have). Shell babelfish 07:20, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
- Please stop deleting images from the List of Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends characters and secondary characters sections. All are covered in Wikipedia under the Cartoon Network Image Tag and TV screen shots. Otherwise, you may be reported for vandalism. NoseNuggets 4:08 PM US EST Nov 20 2006
- Pay attention to what other people are saying, NoseNuggets. He's right. There are way too many fair use images. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 21:12, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Jordan Micheals
editCan someone add Jordan Micheals (Wilt's creator) to the list? I would, but I don't edit the Wikipedia much and don't know how. --72.4.52.82 04:02, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Big Fat Baby or Big Baby?
editThe baby imaginary friend is listed here as "Big Baby"; however "Big Fat Baby" seems to be the official name. In the end credits for I Only Have Surprise for You and Cuckoo for Coco Cards, Grey DeLisle is listed as the voice of "Big Fat Baby". In Partying is Such Sweet Soiree, DeLisle was simply listed as the voice of "Baby Friend". Where did the Big Baby name come from? I noticed that Richie's name is correctly listed as Wildabreath which is a great thing (most websites list it incorrectly as "Wildebrat")! YuckieDuck 17:42, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
New Article
editShould there be a article for the one-time characters? The two articles would still be long. Everyoneandeveryone 01:54, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
- You're not accomplishing anything by dragging the two articles apart. You're only making one unreasonably short article and another still unreasonably long one. The bulk of the article is in the one-time characters. Also, quit making fork after fork when you're undone. It's quite a hassle. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 01:58, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
Purple and Shark Head
editFixed a little bit of bad grammar and repetitiveness. The reference to the river into which Shark Head falls needed fixed; it is not a powerful river, merely a brisk but shallow stream, as Madame Foster is shown walking through this same spot shortly after the toy is dropped, barely getting her feet wet.
This article is ridiculous
editThis isn't a list, it's a huge series of context-free plot summaries. From WP:NOT: Wikipedia articles on works of fiction should contain real-world context and sourced analysis, offering detail on a work's achievements, impact or historical significance, not solely a summary of that work's plot. A plot summary may be appropriate as an aspect of a larger topic. The article's creators should really consider paring it down significantly, before somebody else does it. I came across the article on a search for a totally unrelated topic, so in my opinion this noise is harmful to the project. 200.29.67.150 16:23, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Molly???
editIs this a new character for season 5 or for other future episodes of this show?--Wardog108 03:13, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
- It's a deliberate falsehood introduced by an IP with a history of such actions. Removed. so sayeth Lucky Number 49 Yell at me! 04:56, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
I was reading the article and read about Molly and I was confused. I couldn't remember an episode with her and came here to see why. I also don't think the statement "Mac could fall in love with her" belongs there as it is basically FAN SPECULATION.
What about Berry?
editI'm wondering, shouldn't Berry be put in there too somewhere or what? mean, she did get at least one episode to herself so technically, wouldn't she be counted as a secondary character? 203.167.189.180 22:06, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
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