Talk:Second Regional Forum on the Prevention of Genocide

Speedy Deletion for the Second Regional Forum on the prevention of genocide

Note. For reference I have included the following discussion from my user talk page and User talk:GoldsmithKA. De728631 (talk) 14:44, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

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I have declined your speedy deletion request for the article on The Second Regional Forum on the Prevention of Genocide because I think the subject is highly notable and the article itself is not written in a way that it deserves to be deleted. If you feel that the article needs improvement, please let others work on it instead of destroying your own work. De728631 (talk) 13:58, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

I need to delete this page as the documents are not meant to be in the public domain. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GoldsmithKA (talk • contribs) 14:01, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

If that is the case you can easily remove the citations of the documents but not the whole article. De728631 (talk) 14:04, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

This was meant to be on a wikipage and not a wikipedia page no information is allowed. I really need to delete this page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GoldsmithKA (talk • contribs) 14:06, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

I think you mean the documents you uploaded to Wikipedia, like all the speeches etc.? These are totally independent of the article and you can delete each file on its own. De728631 (talk) 14:15, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

If you really need to take these out of the public domain, please go back to Wikimedia Commons and seperately request the deletion of each document over there. The WikiPEDIA article has nothing to do with your documents, as the links to them can be removed. De728631 (talk) 14:18, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

The article is made up of two documents themselves which are also not meant to be in the public domain. Also how do I delete the documents? —Preceding unsigned comment added by GoldsmithKA (talk • contribs) 14:21, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

If the article is based on direct copy&pastes from any of your documents you can possibly rewrite it in a way that it does not appear to be a direct copy. Otherwise there are surely other publications about the outcome of the forum that can be cited to back up the article's content.

As to deleting the files, you log in to Commons and e.g. enter File:Arusha_Presentation_-_Mike_Pryce.pdf into the search box. Then you "edit" the summary section and in the edit box right on top you insert e.g.

{{speedydelete | This file was mistakenly uploaded into the public domain. It must not stay there though.}}

Note that you can choose a deletion rationale after the pipe | character instead of what I proposed. Someone will then review your request and might actually ask you some more questions on your Commons account, so you should watch that. De728631 (talk) 14:37, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Again, you cannot simply delete an article that is properly referenced and deals with a notable subject. What you can do though, is to remove portions of text within the article that were directly copied from a source text. As to the two documents the article is based on, unless their content is strictly confidential the documents themselves can always be cited as sources because citing them does not transfer them into the public domain. De728631 (talk) 15:08, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

I have deleted all of the document that is directly copied from the confidential texts. Please allow it to stay as it is as the other information is still confidential and only meant to be seen by a select few people. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GoldsmithKA (talk • contribs) 15:23, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Alright, the article can stay like that for a while until more public info is available. I have however re-added the link to Salil Tripathi's speech because as his own institution has published it online (see weblink), we are entitled to use it. De728631 (talk) 15:39, 16 May 2010 (UTC)