Talk:Rule by decree
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France and USA are dictatorships
editIs this article basically saying that strictly speaking, France and USA are dictatorships? --Rebroad 19:52, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
Chavez
editI've removed some of the piece dealing with rule with decree in Venezuela as it states that Chavez is going to shut down opposition television. This needs to be referenced and as I've been looking on reputible news channels I can't see this anywhere. Probably the nasty Republicans at work. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.156.201.220 (talk) 11:36, 1 February 2007 (UTC).
- The channel RCTV (Radio Caracas Television) will be shut down in a couple of weeks because its permit to transmit (I don't know what the word is in english, sorry) expired and Chavez opposes renovating it because RCTV was an open supporter of the 2002 Venezuelan coup d'état attempt. Chavez, today, is ruling by some sort of "temporary rule by decree", a power given to him by parliament to make the changes he sees necessary to shift the country from the previous form of government to a new one. I believe this type of power is not uncommon and is mostly used after a country has had a dictator (or any type of government that most people agrees was bad) and needs to make lots of changes as fast as possible. I'm not so sure about this last part which is the reason I wanted to read this article. (Antonio.sierra 14:38, 2 May 2007 (UTC))
A broader view?
editWith all due to respect to Giorgio Agamben, this article seems to be more about what Giorgio Agamben has to say about rule by decree rather than about what rule by decree is, was, etc. --68.230.152.36 17:37, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
I agree...
editI wonder if this Giorgio Agamben is an author of Wikipedia...
India was ruled by Indira under emergency, allowed by the president of India, to rule by decree. Can this information be added?
Venezuela
edit- Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez has been granted power by the National Assembly to rule by decree for 18 months in early 2007. He intends to nationalize Venezuela's telecommunications and power industries, end foreign ownership of oil refineries, and shut down opposition television as part of his "Bolivarian Revolution."
When this happened, I heard on on somewhere (I think it was BBC) that in fact rule by decree powers are fairly common in Venezuelan recent history. If true, the article needs to be updated since the way it is now may mislead people to think this is a somewhat unusual move Nil Einne 14:24, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Opposition TV
editI removed the reference to opposition TV. The BBC reference supports the idea that he wants to shut down the opposition TV but it's not 100% clear if his action requires his rule by decree power. Definitely it wasn't one of the thing's he said he wanted to do as the article appeared to suggest to me. If someone can find a reliable source which says it will require his rule by decree power then your welcome to re-include but otherwise it should be left out. In any case, this isn't the article to go into too much depth as to what Chavez does and doesn't do with his rule by decree power. [1] Nil Einne 14:36, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
"Most prominent example" ?
editIn the section on the 1933 German decree, it says The most prominent example in history..., but this seems like a bold statement to make in an encyclopedic entry. I am not a student of history, and perhaps historians are generally in agreement that this is the "most prominent", but I suspect that this depends on where you live. SJFriedl (talk) 15:07, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
lots more to say about the French version
editThe use of décrets-loi in France was quite extensive during the Third and Fourth Republics. Perhaps it should have its own article, or at least a section here. There's quite a bit about it at fr:Décret-loi that perhaps someone with better French could translate. --Delirium (talk) 05:24, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Merge
editNot done
- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.
I'm proposing that Enabling act be merged here. Now I'm actually not quite sure if a merge should be done, but I am sure that there's a lot of overlap here and the relationship between these two closely related topics needs sorting out. A merge might help that, or else a merge discussion might encourage someone to sort it out so a merge isn't necessary. If a merge happens, an unmerge in WP:SUMMARY style might make sense at some point in the future when the topic is more fully developed. Rd232 talk 13:08, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
- Seems to be two different things to me. A rule by decree comes forth not necessarily from an enabling act.--Ziko (talk) 20:48, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
- Not sure about it either, but the US term is definitely a different thing. It should remain if there is a merge. If not, it should probably be split off. - BilCat (talk) 21:51, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
- I know they're different things, but they're closely related. An Enabling Act enables rule by decree, generally with some limitations. Rule by decree may also be baked into constitutions or other laws to be applied in emergency situations. Less interestingly, it's just how dictators get things done most of the time (i.e. dictate). Basically, Enabling Act would be better off as a section within rule by decree, for the time being, in WP:SUMMARY style. Rd232 talk 01:33, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
- It would probably be better to just spend time trying to improve the current articles as they are. Once this discussion is closed, I'll propose splitting off the US section, and it's not related in any way to the other definitions covered there. - BilCat (talk) 02:00, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
- Please don't merge. The article may need clarification about being U.S. centric, but I see the term "enabling legislation" a lot in my line of work. I've never heard of "rule by decree". Enabling legislation (aka enabling act) is the document that sets up an administrative agency (aka government agency that is part of the executive branch in the U.S.).--Vampyrecat (talk) 04:16, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
India section messed up
editTypos, grammatical errors, possible biased language 71.163.81.143 (talk) 23:07, 20 April 2022 (UTC)