Talk:2011 Portland, Maine, mayoral election

Mayoral duties

The official duties of the new mayor's position, as copied from the city code, do not belong on this page. Do you see the duties of the New York mayor position here or on any other election article? This article is about the race. I can see a few sentences or maybe even a subsection about the process to have the election and mentioning the new duties there, but Wikipedia is generally not a place for laying out the governmental code, especially not on pages about events.--TM 16:44, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Overly referenced

This article contains far too many references. Per WP:ELOFFICIAL, we need "Minimize the number of links". A fact only needs to be sourced if it is disputed or likely to be disputed. In short, we should not add a reference for every single fact on the page. It is confusing and unhelpful.--TM 15:45, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Unexplained deletions from Harvard University IPs

On at least three separate occasions, anonymous users who are editing from Harvard University IP addresses have deleted parts of this article (specifically information about Jed Rathband) without offering any explanation. If this continues I will request that the page be protected against anonymous IP edits and/or that anonymous Harvard IPs be blocked from editing it. –BMRR (talk) 01:41, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

P.S.: It appears that Rathband's campaign manager is from Harvard, according to this. Coincidence, or...? –BMRR (talk) 01:46, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

I was aware of that fact. My guess is that it is no coincidence at all.--TM 02:01, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

Then we should definitly try and ge this page protected, in order to stop the vandalism. I support the ideaMillertime246 (talk) 02:12, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

Requested move 6 November 2015

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: not moved. Can be revisited if there is a consensus to change the naming convention. Jenks24 (talk) 01:55, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

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• Portland, Maine mayoral election, 2011 → Mayoral election in Portland, Maine, 2011
• Portland, Maine mayoral election, 2015 → Mayoral election in Portland, Maine, 2015
• St. Petersburg, Florida mayoral election, 2013 → Mayoral election in St. Petersburg, Florida, 2013
• Washington, D.C. mayoral election, 1974 → Mayoral election in Washington, D.C., 1974
• Washington, D.C. mayoral election, 1978 → Mayoral election in Washington, D.C., 1978
• Washington, D.C. mayoral election, 1994 → Mayoral election in Washington, D.C., 1994
• Washington, D.C. mayoral election, 2002 → Mayoral election in Washington, D.C., 2002
• Washington, D.C. mayoral election, 2006 → Mayoral election in Washington, D.C., 2006
• Washington, D.C. mayoral election, 2010 → Mayoral election in Washington, D.C., 2010
• Washington, D.C. mayoral election, 2014 → Mayoral election in Washington, D.C., 2014

– Awkward (and incomplete) comma disambiguation using a compound modifier. Using a comma-disambiguation as a compund modifier looks awkward, whether the second comma is there or not. Without the comma, it also contravenes WP:Copyedit#Punctuation. It is also discouraged in several style guides. This is a test pilot to provoke discussion for similar constructions.
See also: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 November 4#Category:Albuquerque, New Mexico mayoral elections. HandsomeFella (talk) 18:38, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

• Strong oppose This goes against the conventions for election articles which are place - type - time. The comma state is going to be awkward wherever. Timrollpickering (talk) 20:10, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

This sounds like an argument from authority (the authority of the current naming convention). Please try to come up with an argument on the issue. Remember: consensus can change. It may not be possible to foresee every situation when deciding on a naming convention. HandsomeFella (talk) 20:24, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

It's not a mere argument from authority when there are probably 50,000+ election and referendum pages that would be affected. This is something that should be discussed in the Elections and Referendums WikiProject rather than creating dozens of move proposals like you're doing. For the record, I'd personally prefer the "2011 Washington, D.C. mayoral election" format since it's more concise and removes the comma "issue". Do U(knome)? ^yes..._{or no} 20:06, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

I have not created "dozens of move proposals", I have created one – and you're reading it right now. If you add the CfD, then it's two. Simple math. Maybe I could have started a discussion at the project, but my experience is that many projects are "half-dead", and there's no response. I'm open to alternatives, but your counter-proposal doesn't solve the problem that this RM tries to address, as "D.C." still needs to be set off with a second comma – unless at the end of an expression. Thus, in contrast, "2011 mayoral election in Washington, D.C." would fix the problem. Btw, I doubt that there are 50,000+ articles on mayoral elections. State-level elections are not affected, as no comma disambiguation occurs in those article names. HandsomeFella (talk) 20:33, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

Not sure why you're playing semantics when your proposed moves clearly involve more than 2 pages. You understand what I'm trying to get at. Anyway, the comma I was obviously referring to is the one right before the year, as in "XXXXXX mayoral election, 1974" or "Mayoral election in XXXXXX, 2014". The comma in Washington, D.C. will always regardless of title format. Do U(knome)? ^yes..._{or no} 14:59, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

It's one proposal (involving 10 articles), but never mind. Of course the comma between "Washington" and "D.C." will always be there, but the comma I'm referring to is the one that belong after "D.C." per WP:Copyedit – did you follow that link? Except at the end of a sentence or an expression, it is needed. Which is why your counter-proposal doesn't solve the problem that this RM proposal tries to address. HandsomeFella (talk) 17:04, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

• Oppose but not strongly. I hadn't thought about this before I read the page. To me, it reads better if the place name is first. Also, the fact that it is Washington D.C. is more important than the mayor, who is transitory. Bangabandhu (talk) 01:44, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
• Oppose as stated in my reply above. Do U(knome)? ^yes..._{or no} 20:06, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
• Oppose Clearly not in line with the naming guideline WP:NC-GAL#Elections and referendums. The current names are correct per the guideline. Number 57 20:50, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
• Comment: on Udonknome's advise, I've started a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Elections and Referendums#We've got a problem. HandsomeFella (talk) 21:15, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

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Move discussion in progress

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