Talk:Philippine mythological creatures

Creatures versus Personalities

Bernardo Carpio, Juan Tamad, Malakas at si Maganda, and Mariang Makiling are personalities - particular individuals and not general creature types, which is what this page is about. They should be removed or transferred elsewhere. The point of the page is to list down general creature types (Diwata - a general type, as opposed to Mariang Makiling, a particular diwata) and their descriptions. It becomes disorganized when particular individuals are ranked alongside general creature types - unless of course they're the only one of their kind (like, say, the Manaul).

Perhaps an exception to this would be certain mythical "occupations" which are unique in their own right and qualify to be ranked alongside creature types (e.g. Mangkukulam and Mambabarang, both are human witches).

Merger proposal

• No merge I definitely vote against merging Philippine mythical creatures with Philippine mythology, as there is much material on Creatures in Philippine Mythology which cannot be discussed in depth in a general discussion of Philippine Mythology. Instead, I propose that the Philippine Mythology article needs to be expanded, as the emphasis on legendary creatures or even Gods, is unwarranted. I believe Philippine Mythology should instead cover the unique characteristics of Filipino Mythology. I've been wanting to work on this project for a while, but I have not yet find the time. I am, on the other hand, slowly gathering resources so I can do so. Alternativity 09:25, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

• No merge I also vote against merging. Raw tonnage being the first issue, as the main article is very large. This article may need improvement, but it's already showing enough of substance to stand as it's own article. Many creatures in Greek and Roman mythology have individual articles, so I'm not seeing that being a subset of Philippine mythology is an overwhelming reason to merge.Horrorshowj 21:39, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

• No merge - illustrations can help expand/improve the article further; needs clean up too based on wikipedia presentation standards. Dragonbite 04:38, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Reorganizing the whole darn thing

Okay, for now I retain my vote being "no merge", but I'm looking at the Philippine Mythology articles as a body, and at the articles on the mythology of other countries for guidance. And I find our Mythology articles somewhat confusing from that perspective.

May I propose a course of action to fix this? I haven't really gotten much feedback regarding the idea for a Wikiproject: Philippine Mythology, so I suppose this can be done a little at a time.

First and foremost, I think the creation of a Philippine Mythology Infobox would greatly resolve our problems. (As a relative newbie to wikipedia, I do not yet know how to come up with one, by the way.)

The following are organization notes.

Philippine mythology should be the overarching article and contain a brief intro to each sub aspect.

The Sub-aspects could include

• Philippine folk literature
• Gods and Goddesses in Philippine Myth)
• Philippine Legendary Creatures and Spirits (existing as Philippine mythical creatures?)
• Philippine Legendary Figures
• Mythical and Sacred Locations in the Philippines
• Sacred Objects in Philippine Myth
• Myths in contemporary Philippine culture
• Urban Myths of the Philippines
• Philippine Folklorists
• Regional Mythologies

As the material in each sub-aspect grows, we should spin off individual pages. Whether we keep the sub-aspect article or reduce it to a list would depend on the 'raw tonnage' each aspect develops.

I will post this later on Tambayan Philippines. Just give me time to think about it in more detail first. :-D Alternativity 10:39, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

You may find the following Infobox links helpful: Help:Infobox and Wikipedia:List of infoboxes/Proposed. Another thing, since all of the given opinions here have been No merge, and there has been no dissent at all, I think consensus has been reached. It may be alright for the merge notices to be removed. -- • Kurt Guirnela • ‡ ^Talk 12:14, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

I created 2 navigational boxes (side navbox and bottom navbox) for the main Philippine mythology articles. Thinking about an infobox for individual mythical creatures (probably similar to these nav boxes). - Dragonbite 04:48, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Rearrange

As this is primarily a list article, I think the creatures should have a particular organization within the article. I'm thinking alphabetical 'cause that would be the easiest. Any takers? Shrumster 18:11, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Taken and done. Cheers! - Dragonbite 19:21, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Maybe

maybe this is best combined with Philippine mythology. Not for sure, just suggesting that. Goldenrowley 02:28, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Please see the Merger proposal section on top of this talk page. -- • Kurt Guirnela • ‡ ^Talk 04:53, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Notes on organization of Philippine mythology articles

• Per suggestion/discussion section above: Please see Talk:Philippine mythology/to do box at Talk page of Philippine mythology article (main). - Dragonbite 18:30, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Listing removed from WP:PM

Since the merger proposal hasn't attracted any feedback in the past six months, I'm concluding that consensus is against the merge and removing the listing on WP:PM. B.Wind (talk) 02:43, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

The visayan myths

Kekek

The Kekek is a Woman witch with wings which all she has to do is look for pregnant woman and to abort the baby and or to kill the infant by zipping the blood using her stretched tongue, that is why mostly of the pregnant woman has to put a black clothes or wrap around their body especially during the night to avoid to be seen by the Kekek. Aside from black clothes they will also put a thorns around their house to prevent the Kekek of coming at the walls of the House.

This practice are mostly in the remote Areas in Visayan regions.

Agta

Agta or Kapre - a Giant Humanoid being, Black and Hairy which has a supernatural power that live in the forest or the large trees, they have the ability to visible and to be invisible and to trick and confused Humans who will pass in their Territory.

Dwende

Dwende - An average of a foot tall human like supernatural creatures, mostly friendly and some are not. They live in Puntod ( a small hard pile of soil like and Igloo shape, clean at the top with no plant grows)They will help to their chosen human friend, some of them became rich. Some of the Dwendes will disturb people living in the house, making noise inside the house during the night and people living there cannot sleep because of the noise, during the morning they sew their things scattered, some says they found inserted T-short on the Column of the house.

Tikbalang

Tikbalang - A Half Horse-Half Human, horse body with the four legs and half Human they brings bow and arrow, will will trick and scares human.

Encanto

Encanto or Fairy - A very beautiful lady,with flawless white skin, blond hair,dressed like a princess but they don't have Philtrum, this is the sign if you will encounter a fairy. They will take you to the beautiful city, which you can not see in this world and invite you to stay there and they share their foods which taste differently all they wants is just you do not have to ask for a Salt when you like to eat. If you will keep on refusing this ended you woke up at the Forest ground and some on the top of the Trees.

That is why some says when you are in their world, those vast forest will be converted into Cities where they stays.

Once upon a time somewhere in the Visayan areas, they constructed a river bridge for the local to pass through, but the bridge was always collapse because of the rain and flood, so they decided to construct it higher, same thing happened again, they construct the bridge higher and higher but they wondered why the bridge still destroyed and later the locals found out that the Ship of the Encantos or the Fairies loaded with different products specially Cacao passes through it from the mountain to the sea, They saw the ship with white men with no Philtrum the Encantos, so later they constructed the brigde just a little higher of the water level at normal weather condition and the bridge did not damage again. Later they knew that when there be will flood its the time for the ship to sail on the river.

Wakwak

Wakwak - An old woman witch with fangs, capable of traveling so fast by floating with something, associated with a nocturnal bird for her spy and to search for their victim to zip a blood. The bird will trick the victim with a sound whakwhak, when it is loud the witch still far away but it sound a little like far, meaning the witch is near you. The victim has bite on the nick with mark of fangs and scratched wounds.

Kataw

Kataw or Serina - A beautiful half woman and a half fish, some save human from drowning, when she chooses You as a friend she gives you pearls and treasures to make you a rich, but if they are abused They will bring catastrophes like flood and storm resulted to drowning of anybody.

Okoy

Okoy - An ugly male humanoids with fins believed living in deep of the oceans, associated with bad character, usually they are the responsible for somebody drowned into the deep that passes on their Territory.

Manti-anak

Manti-anak – A reincarnated soul of a baby died together with the mother in her womb with a devil character, manti-anak is a supernatural entity that will scares and murder people in the house during the night and resulted to somebody death especially to the babies.

Tambaloslos

Tambaloslos – A humanoid creature, He lives in the area where full of Bamboo trees near the river bank, he will scares human by quickly appearing in front, and laughing so loud, by opening his lips wide to the extent that it will cover his face up to his head, slowly hides behind the bamboos with the disappearing sound always saying tambaloslos.

• • • There is an expression of our elders especially from the people of Bohol “Tambaloslos kang daku” which means you are a big Tambaloslos, this word point to that Mythical creature.

Tale of the Ermitanyo

One day somebody roaming at the Forest, he saw a very old man kneeling at the ground,has a long hair and even his beard touches at the ground. vine plants has already climbing up on his body,in his very old age he so tired and asking God to end his life. Our ancestors says people before has a long life.

Tale of the Giant Snake (Higanting Bitin)

One day a man roaming at the forest, when he was tired he rested on the top of the log which full of grasses and mosses, suddenly noticed that the Log is moving, he wants to find out so he walked on the top of log going to the tip, upon reaching, he was shocked he saw a huge head of the snake and he found out that the log he tought, is a giant snake which can not crawl anymore because of its size.

Santilmo

Santilmo - a ball of fire that can hover, believe a ghost from the person that died and pours blood in the area where it can be seen.

• • • One morning my father told us that last night he saw a Santilmo, when were sleeping he noticed a light glowing from the outside of our house, then he gets up and look at it through a small gap of the wooden wall and he saw a floating small ball of fire hovering at our backyard.

Mambabarang

Mambabarang - An old female which is practicing whichcraft, capable of cursing anybody by pinning into a doll with the hair or clothes of somebody she wants to curse.

Tale of the floating Coffin

One night two men walking going to their house on a trail in the middle of the forest, while walking, suddenly the wind blows, plant and trees shaken, bamboos bended blocking on the trail, when they passed beyond those bended bamboos that covering their sight, they got scared when they saw the coffin on the trail, they were escaping on it and continue walking, but they noticed at their back that there was something luminous, when they were looking at it, they saw the coffin is floating and following them, they were so scared and they run as much they can.

• • • This coffin story believe that is related to the work of the Encantos or abduction done by fairies, when they will abduct a human they will return it as if a dead in a coffin with the tricked and transformed body from the banana trunk, that is why there were a practice when they can found a coffin with the dead missing member or found a returned dead of a missing member , they will not burry it right away they will observe it first within 3 to 4 days if that dead body inside the coffin will transform into a banana trunk , if it will transform back into a banana trunk then the immediate family will demand to return the missing someone from the Encantos by making a noise to the suspected tree where the Encantos live mostly Balite Trees.

• • • I really witness this practice before, when two young ladies my relatives told by their parents to get a Tankong (a vegetable greeny vine plant in wet areas usually used to feed the domesticated animals) in the Basakan ( ricefield). It happend that they did not return 'til the next morning, so it was suspected that they were abducted by the Encantos, that day they gather and bring empty containers encircling the big trees near the rice field and making noise and demanding for the return of these two young ladies. They were happy that the ladies were returned but they found out that these girls went to other place instead of returning home.

• • • So the very point of this event was the people specially from bohol ( cause this time mostly participated were people and my relatives from bohol) are still has a strong belief to these supernatural creatures.

Manananggal

Manananggal – A woman alike, has the ability to detach her upper body and fly without the lower part with hanging intestine, when she flies her intestine revolving causes a humming sound. She always thirsty for human blood. She finds hard to re-attach her body if somebody found the other half and put ashes on it.

Ungo

Ungo - A Human alike predator with a scary face that is always hungry for human flesh and associated with devil spirit.

Balbal

Balbal - A Human alike predator with fangs that is always thirsty for human blood and associated with devil spirit.

Impakto

Impakto - Is a devil, or anybody possessed by the devil spirit who brings bad omen.

Yawa

Yawa - is the highest of all form of evil.

Bathala

Bathala - the creator (old language)

Ginoo or Dios

Ginoo or Dios - God the most high, The ultimate creator.

From our ancestors handed down oral stories.

By: Roy D. Mangaron

Hello, Mr. Mangaron! This looks very interesting. Would you know if there's any print or online sources we can use for citations? Because that's the only way we'll be able to add this information to the page, following the policies under Wikipedia:Citing_sources. - Alternativity (talk) 14:23, 24 April 2012 (UTC)2.49.9.244 (talk) 16:34, 28 April 2012 (UTC)2.49.9.244 (talk) 18:01, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Tambaloslos

as per https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/tambaloslos A mythical creature with a large mouth and penis found in Visayan, Bicolano and Mindanao folklore. The creature is believed to confuse and misguide people, making them lose their way or go around in circles. By:fluffywaffle

Name-change and possible merger

I propose the merger of this article with List of Philippine mythical creatures, after the latter has been renamed into List of Philippine mythological creatures. This will align the it with List of Greek mythological creatures, an article which does not have another article with the same specific topic. PCommission (talk) 07:30, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

Merger proposal

I propose to merge Philippine mythological creatures into List of Philippine mythological creatures. I think that the content in the Philippine mythological creatures article can easily be explained in the context of List of Philippine mythological creatures, and the List of Philippine mythological creatures article is of a reasonable size that the merging of Philippine mythological creatures will not cause any problems as far as article size is concerned. Also, by merging the two articles, a comprehensive article for the topic of Philippine mythological creatures can be in line with List of Greek mythological creatures. PCommission (talk) 08:37, 30 July 2020 (UTC)