Talk:People (The 1975 song)/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 06:49, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Good Article review progress box Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

After your amazing response to my last review, I will take this article on! --K. Peake 06:49, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Wooo thank you! Giacobbe ^talk 13:46, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

• List the producers under their full names in the infobox since this is not a track listing  Done
• "on 22 August 2019 through" → "on 22 August 2019, through"  Done
• Wikilink lead single instead  Done
• Target heavy rock to Hard rock  Done
• Target chords to Chord (music)  Done
• "and sonic departure from" → "and the sonic departure from the band's third studio album,"  Done
• "In the band's native" → "In the 1975's native"  Done
• UK Singles chart → UK Singles Chart  Done
• Shouldn't the above chart be mentioned before the rock & metal one since it is the UK's main chart?  Done
• "in Scotland, and" → "in Scotland and"  Done
• "and received comparisons to" → "and was compared to"  Done

Background

• Retitle to Background and recording  Done
• "21 February 2020 and later for" → "21 February and later for" to avoid writing the same year twice in one sentence  Done
• "Minor Threat, and" → "Minor Threat and" because the article is written in British English  Done
• "revealed its origin stemmed" → "revealed the song's origins stemmed"  Done
• Target controversial ban to Abortion in Alabama  Done
• "yelling obscenities" the source mentions them booing, so reword accordingly  Done
• "at the band." → "at the 1975."  Done
• Remove capitalisation for open carry  Done
• "was furious, and wrote" → "was furious and wrote"  Done
• Remove release year of "The 1975" from brackets since you have stated it earlier in that very sentence, plus none of the other songs of the title are mentioned  Done
• [14] only shows the music video, which does not back up the song's release as a single; try this instead, which is already used in the comp section  Done

Composition

• Retitle to Composition and lyrics  Done
• Sample looks good!

• Thank you! Giacobbe ^talk 13:46, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

• "two minutes and forty seconds" → "two minutes and 40 seconds" but the length is not sourced; add Tidal at the end of the sentence preferably  Done

• I added the Apple Music link since I've already got an archived version of it. Giacobbe ^talk 13:46, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

• "heavy rock instrumentation built upon" → "heavy rock instrumentation, built upon" with the target  Done
• Target chords to Chord (music)  Done
• "breakneck drums and "renegade" percussion" are not backed up by [23] and cannot be viewed since even [24]'s oldest archive does not load  Done

  musicOMH has a pseudo-adblock/paywall pop-up lower down on the page. It won't let you search until you clear it. I've removed the entire ref, though. Not sure why it was there. Giacobbe ^talk 13:46, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

• "Death From Above, and" → "Death From Above and"  Done
• "that its use of" → "that the song's use of"  Done
• "Queens of the Stone Age, and said" → "Queens of the Stone Age and saying"  Done
• Target pop to Pop music  Done
• Remove wikilink on Death From Above  Done
• "His vocal delivery on" → "Healy's vocal delivery on"  Done
• "with a screaming rallying call" → "with a screaming call" since the rallying part is unsourced  Done
• "Healy condemns personal" → "Healy condemns both personal"  Done
• The first letter of the quotes should be capitalised since it's a full line  Done
• "are funny / But we" the source presents these as being part of the same line

• @Kyle Peake: It contradicts the lyrics published in the liner notes. I've already sourced it in the "Credits and personnel" section. Should I cite it here as well? Giacobbe ^talk 13:46, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

• (CA)Giacobbe Yes you should cite it here too; that is not violating WP:REPCITE. --K. Peake 13:51, 25 January 2021 (UTC)  Done

• "embraced the angst" → "embraces the angst"  Done
• "was to: "[tell] listeners" → "is to "[tell] listeners"  Done

Critical reception

• Retitle to Reception, as everything in the lead needs to be written out in the body so the commercial reception should be added here  Done
• "received positive reviews from" → "was met with positive reviews from"  Done
• "from the band's fanbase" → "from the 1975's fanbase"  Done
• [24] is not needed since [30] is enough to back the fanbase info up  Done
• "sounded like: "he's" → "sounds like "he's"  Done
• Are you sure Euphoria is reliable per WP:SELFPUB?

• Yes. It's a (new-ish) digital magazine, but has already amassed an impressive and diverse portfolio. I forgot to italicize. Giacobbe ^talk 13:46, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

• "saw it as a radical departure from the band's" → "saw the former as a radical departure from the 1975's"  Done
• "breaking a skateboard"." → "breaking a skateboard."" per MOS:QUOTE  Done
• "debate to rest"." → "debate to rest.""  Done
• "Cerys Kenneally of" → "Cerys Kenneally from" to avoid repetitiveness  Done
• "Smith said it was:" → "Smith said it is,"  Done
• "a revolution, man"." → "a revolution, man.""  Done
• Create a third para for chart positions, as that is not enough to warrant its own section  Done

Music video

• Wikilink music video on the img text  Done
• "designed the band's hair" → "designed the 1975's hair"  Done
• "To make Healy look "toxic"," → "To make Healy look real and "a bit toxic","  Done
• "used in the video, meant to" → "that are used in the video, with them being meant to"  Done
• "the second is shown scanning the band's" → "while the second is shown scanning the band members"  Done
• The small part for the cube is not backed up  Done
• Target LED to LED display  Done
• The lights are not described as flashing  Done
• "yellow suits. Kirsten Sprunch" → "yellow suits; Kirsten Sprunch"  Done
• "Chris DeVille of Stereogum compared Healy's" → "DeVille compared Healy's"  Done
• "a sentiment shared by" → "with the latter sentiment being shared by"  Done
• "Koltan Greenwood of the" → "Koltan Greenwood of"  Done
• "Moreland of Pitchfork compared Healy's" → "Moreland compared Healy's"  Done
• "saying the video" → saying the visual"  Done

Credits and personnel

• Good

Charts

• See MOS:TABLECAPTION  Done

References

• Copyvio score may look too high at 47.1%, but this is mostly due to the titles listed in the article so ignore it
• Top job with the archives!

• Thanks! Finally got it working lol. Giacobbe ^talk 14:31, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

• British Broadcasting Corporation → BBC on ref 11  Done
• Cite YouTube as publisher instead for ref 14

  I believe this is this ref replaced with the NPR one. Giacobbe ^talk 14:31, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

It appears so, as there are no refs directly from YouTube now you have used the NPR citation for the single release. --K. Peake 14:59, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

• WP:OVERLINK of Pitchfork on ref 17  Done
• Fix MOS:QWQ issues with ref 18  Done
• Remove wikilink on Pitchfork for ref 21 and fix MOS:QWQ issues  Done
• Remove or replace ref 24 since the original URL does not work and even the oldest archive is not accessible  Done
• WP:OVERLINK of NME on ref 26  Done
• IHeartRadio → iHeartRadio on refs 28 and 31  Done
• Cite Euphoria as publisher instead for ref 33

• I forgot to italicize in the prose. It is indeed a magazine. Giacobbe ^talk 14:31, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for explaining that, I was unsure whether it should be italicised or not initially! --K. Peake 14:59, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

External links

• Good

Final comments and verdict

•  On hold until everything is fixed, after a review that was quite quick! --K. Peake 11:21, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

• That was indeed a very quick review, always appreciated! Giacobbe ^talk 14:36, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

• @Kyle Peake: I believe I've resolved all of your comments. Anything that I missed? Giacobbe ^talk 14:37, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

• @(CA)Giacobbe: This looks very good now, but shouldn't you introduce A Brief Inquiry into Online Relationships in the lead like how I suggested? --K. Peake 14:59, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

• @Kyle Peake: Must have missed that. It is fixed. Giacobbe ^talk 15:02, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

• (CA)Giacobbe You missed the comma, but that is very minor so I added it for you. ✓ Pass now and I did notice in the background section that you have bared in mind my comments for your previous GAN when editing this article; I tip my hat to you for this! --K. Peake 15:05, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

• @Kyle Peake: Whoops, thank you for fixing that. Awesome! Another great review. In regards to the previous GAN, I certainly did utilize the advice from your comments there in this article. I always strive to grow as an editor by incorporating tips, advice, and experience from every reviewer. It helps not only myself, but Wikipedia as a whole to have strong, well-written articles! Cheers! Giacobbe ^talk 15:11, 25 January 2021 (UTC)