Talk:Organic law

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can you help me*

Well, sure. What's needed here is a recap of Thomas Paine, first to say that government was legally incapable of being a party to or author of its organic law, i.e., its constitution. I'll make Wikipedia a deal. If someone else profiles Wolf DeVoon and/or The Freemman's Constitution, I'll write a nice piece about organic law as a concept. God knows the world needs it. 196.40.33.123 00:48, 1 October 2007 (UTC)Wolf DeVoon

Spain

There is good material on Spain at es:Ley Orgánica, if someone is in the mood for some translation work. - Jmabel | Talk 17:13, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

U.S. Organic Law

The United States Code, a government publication, makes clear that there is organic law in the U.S. and that the Declaration, etc. are part of it.[1] No deletion of the section regarding the U.S. is intellectually valid. Such could only precede from some bias on the part of the deletor. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hilltoppers (talk • contribs) 01:52, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Please cite the part of United States Code that the organic laws are in? All US Code references are Title USC Section. Furthermore, the United States Code is simply a compilation of Public Laws and not really the law in effect. In the event of a conflict between the compiled and easy to search US Code and the entirety of Public Laws (Statutes at large made up of all the slip laws) then Public Law prevails. Importantly, if there is no XX USC XX reference then it is not in the United States Code -- and again if there isn't a Public Law reference it never really passed Congress and subsequent Executive signature or Legislative override, but was just added by the USC compilers. Once you have a USC reference there should be a Public Law reference for us -- since the USC compilers usually do a great job of showing their references. However, without Public Law or Title XX USC Section XX reference then your position that the Declaration of Independence, Northwest Ordinance, and Articles of Confederation as being contained as a true part of United States Code are invalid.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.24.0.10 (talk) 15:58, 8 March 2011 (UTC) 129.24.0.10 (talk) 16:04, 8 March 2011 (UTC)A.B.

Note: There are words contained in law that are self-evident and not needing a "Public Law or Title XX USC Section XX" for definition. A court case, especially a Supreme Court case, can establish precedence of meaning without any law in support. I am not sure what the above is referencing but Black's Law Dictionary, Rev. 4th Ed. states:

• "ORGANIC LAW - The fundamental law, or constitution, of a state or nation, written or unwritten; that law or system of laws or principles which defines and establishes the organization of its government.--St. Louis v. Dorr, 145 Mo. 466, 46 S.W. 976, 42 L.R.A. 686, 86 Am.St. Rep. 575"

In Cole v. Richardson, 405 U.S. 676 at 682, 92 S.Ct. 1332 at 1336, 31 L.Ed.2d 593 (1972), citing Ohlson v. Phillips, 304 F.Supp. 1152 (Colo. 1969)- the U.S. Supreme Court has held that when a politician takes his oath to "support the Constitution," he not only swears to uphold that document, but all the founding charters of our country, which together are called the "organic law.".

The Northwest Ordinance is certainly considered among the Organic Laws of the US. Parts (like Article III) have been rendered null by Supreme Court cases, since in this country, the "highest court" in the land has evolved into a law making body (proof upon any questioning) by court decisions and "the rule of five", that in effect make law, then by qualifying decisions to further expound the intent, a court case becomes US law. This is a fundamental passage of Common Law. Otr500 (talk) 20:16, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

Tag removal

I removed the globalize tag dated December 2010. The reasons are 1)- The tag is unclear concerning intent, 2)- The article does present world views, 3)- There are around 195 independent sovereign states (including Taiwan) and 60 dependent areas.

As soon as a tagged article expands to include some world coverage this tag becomes outdated. This is unless someone would like to present that there is some magical number to actually mean complete or near complete globalization deserving the tag. If this is not the case the article should be relegated to future editorial improvements for added world views with the career tag removed. Otr500 (talk) 15:03, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

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China

Shouldn't there be a section on the organic law of the People's Republic of China? 98.123.38.211 (talk) 18:37, 24 March 2024 (UTC)