Talk:Non-lexical vocables in music

Cleanup

How does this article require cleanup? Hyacinth (talk) 22:08, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Distribution of information across subsections could be more focused ... e.g. Van Morrison singing scat appears under the "Popular Music" section, perhaps this belongs in the Scat section ... I'll give this some thought, let's put our heads together. Karl gregory jones (talk) 03:38, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Non-lexical

I suggest renaming this article to "Vocables in music", since it includes Canntaireachd, which has lexical vocables. Yaxu (talk) 17:41, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Yaxu, I disagree -- "non-lexical" is an interesting, useful, and many-exampled category in its own right, I would miss the non-lexicality if it became a "lexical" article. I do think you have a point about Canntaireachd, if this article is going to remain non-lexical, Canntaireachd needs rethinking, along the lines of "See Also" or "Related Concepts", or simply a Canntaireachd section with the similarities and differences spelled out. I don't have a solid grasp on the details yet (I got here through "scat", my primary interest) ... perhaps there's also a need for a new article, e.g. "mixed lexical vocables". In any case, I'm interested in the topic so let's give the matter some thought. Karl gregory jones (talk) 03:33, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Belated thanks for your input Karl. On reflection though I've come to the conclusion that Canntaireachd does not really have a lexicon, just a system of phonetics, and sound symbolism. Yaxu (talk) 17:45, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Qawwali

If I understand correctly, sections of a qawwali performance contain non-lexical vocables. Am I correct (maybe they're lexical), and would this be a worthwhile addition to the article? Mutt Lunker (talk) 14:09, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Matt, if you're thinking of the kind of thing Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan does, it's sargam, which is like solfège (sa re ga ma pa = do re mi fa sol). I think sargam doesn't count as vocables because the syllables correspond directly with specific notes. It does have a similar effect, though! Kaigogo (talk) 04:36, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Bad link

I really know nothing about Wikipedia so if this is badly formatted, I'm sorry. I just wanted to say that the link at the bottom to the PhD thesis does not work, I don't know if it's possible to rectify that. TheotokosFan (talk) 10:08 EDT, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Another famous song

There is another famous song: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisencolinensinainciusol —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.55.84.194 (talk) 23:47, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

All right. Added. -- Error (talk) 10:35, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

Glossolalia

Might be an idea to mention Glossolalia (related to 'speaking in tongues') at some point in this article. Dead Can Dance are noted for employing this vocal technique.1812ahill (talk) 20:44, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Salsa

Some mention of this sort of thing in salsa and other Latin American styles ought to be mentined. I know it has a Spanish name, but the word escapes me. Like the refrain hob a derry down O which has attracted some attention that it is a garbled version of a natural language phrase, lyrics like otocume yande also give the same impression. Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 13:09, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Some of it may be an African language. Yoruba language? Or perhaps merely African sounding gibberish. -- Error (talk) 10:37, 1 February 2023 (UTC)