Talk:Nicolaus Gercken Family Foundation

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Notability and COI

Latest comment: 3 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

I am an experienced writer but new to Wiki. I believe to have removed all "peacock terms". The first reviewers asked, whether the topic has the scope for Wiki: Clearly so. It is a reviewed and approved entry in the German language Wikipedia. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolaus_Gerckensche_Familienstiftung_zu_Salzwedel. An 8000-member strong 400-year-old private non-profit family foundation with the wherewithal to have paid out academic scholarships over this partly barbaric period in continental Europe very certainly has a large scope. I can add uncounted newspaper article references if that is what it takes. Clearfrienda surmises a possible conflict of interest. Not so. I am a family member by birth, one of eight thousand. I made that known in my profile in German and in English to Clearfrienda by mail. I am 56 years old and do not qualify for any foundation scholarships. I wrote the English translation of the German Wiki for the historically interested English speaking general audience and because we have English first or second language speaking members in North and South America, folks who emigrated. I will link the German and English pages as soon as the English one has been approved. I am willing to adapt the English Wiki to the reviewers' criteria. Please be specific.

Hello! It's not how big, old, or small something is to make it notable. It's the coverage in reliable, secondary sources. You have confirmed you are a member of the foundation, which makes it that you have a COI, whether you think so or not. This means that you should get an editor without the latter to edit and submit the article to remove any potential bias from the article. Editors with a COI should generally not edit articles they have a close connection to, but at least leave a conflict of interest template on the talk page of this article, not just your user page. Clear friend a ^💬 13:07, 13 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

COI declaration

I am a member of the 8000 member strong non-profit Nicolaus Gercken Family Foundation. I serve as her webmaster. My work for the foundation is voluntary and unpaid. 30 y ago I received an academic scholarship by the foundation, today worth about 2 000 US$. My 3 children may one day receive a similar one-time stipend if they wish to pursue academic studies. The draft I submitted is a direct translation of the approved German language wiki page of the Nicolaus Gercken Foundation. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolaus_Gerckensche_Familienstiftung_zu_Salzwedel. Except me, this overwhelmingly German foundation has no active member with sufficient command of the English language to write an English language Wiki page. My COI is real but minimal.

Notability

I shall add more reliable secondary sources over the next few days. Thank you for pointing out the criteria. I am learning & grateful.

Added 4 reliable public references, news reporting on the foundation

Local newspapers Volksstimme and Altmarkzeitung, journal Altmark aktuell. Generally speaking, the press covers the family foundation conference, which takes place every 3y in Salzwedel. The 400th anniversary of the founder's passing away in 1610/2010 was covered particularly broadly.

Added reference to the relevance of the Westphalian Peace of 1648

Henry Kissinger built his last big book "world order" around the concept of the Westphalian peace treaties as a model for paciyfying the Middle East and other world regions.

I will add online references in the coming weeks. The trouble is that the German papers are centuries behind in their online presence. The NYT not only is behind a pay wall, its coverage cited by me pertains to Kissinger's book on the Thirty Years' War, 1618- 1648, not to the Foundation itself. The Foundation was established over the ashes of this war. The post war settlement, the Westphalian peace, concluded aboiut 200 miles from the foundation's headquarters, is a model for the 21st century world acc. to Kissinger. This reference lends gravity to the foundation's history but not notability to become a Wikipedia entry.

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Latest comment: 3 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

I added another reliable independendent source. It is viewable online. I also added a survey of press and book coverage over the past few years. Find it on my talk page, "reliable sources" EckartHReihlen (talk) 11:09, 29 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

Template message in English version of Wiki entry

I cannot resolve the issue (my connection to the foundation, which is the topic of the Wiki), because for now we hardly have an English language audience except the family diaspora in the Americas, who all have the same connection to the foundation as I have. I just let this template sit where it is.

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