Talk:Newsbeuter

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Mention of Newsboat

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On 2020-07-10, I added links to Newsbeuter's officially recognized successor, Newsboat, which is already mentioned in the article. These links were promptly deleted by a user named The Banner. I sought explanation on The Banner's talk page but was only met with question-dodging, baseless accusations of "advertising", and at least one lie. The Banner has been warned for harassment in the past,[1][2] and I see little point in continuing what never really amounted to a discussion in the first place.

I therefore wish to open a discussion here. Should links to Newsbeuter's officially recognized successor be forbidden from appearing in the Newsbeuter article? In support of including such links, I cite four well-known free software projects that do:

Input is appreciated. Thank you.

GJM (talk) 18:48, 17 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

It looks you have nothing more on offer than promoting Newsbeuter. You show all sign of having a Conflict of Interest. And GJM does not see to understand what is meant by the phrase: "write the article or it is deemed not notable".The Banner talk 19:17, 17 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
And please note the lack of policy/guideline/content related arguments and the richness of personal attacks and harassing. The Banner talk 19:33, 17 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
I wouldn't mind more references to the currently maintained fork, i.e. newsboat. Similar to the HexChat article (lemma used to be XChat) I suggest editing and moving Newsbeuter to Newsboat including a history section on the currently unmaintained Newsbeuter. Thoughts? --Brevity (talk) 16:17, 20 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
I wrote a draft article about Newsboat, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Newsboat, long before I checked this talkpage on Newsbeuter. Unfortunately, the draft was declined, mostly for a lack of published sources that are, I quote:
  • in-depth (not just passing mentions about the subject)
  • reliable
  • secondary
  • independent of the subject
I find it hard to find sources that meet most of these criteria. In fact, I find it hard to find sources like that for a lot of articles on open source software. It's not like the New York Times is going to write an article on it, nor are there any scholarly articles about it, so what remains are mostly blogs on open source and other software. Anyone know how to tackle this? MichielN (talk) 13:08, 13 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

Funny that GJM is so desperate about his program that he starts canvassing about it. I suggested that he should write an article about the program, but he is clearly unhappy with that. The Banner talk 20:48, 20 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

I agree with Brevity. Until that happens, The Banner, is there a problem with restoring the links? GJM (talk) 13:49, 3 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

As I stated before: no article = no link. But that does not exclude the proposal of Brevity. A proper, neutral article is always welcome. The Banner talk 14:03, 3 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

References

  1. ^ "The Banner, please stop following Piotrus around..." Retrieved 17 July 2020.
  2. ^ "It is not a threat, it is a promise". Retrieved 17 July 2020.