Talk:Need for Speed: Most Wanted (2005 video game)/Archive 1

Archive 1

Xbox 360 question

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Need_for_Speed:_Most_Wanted&action=submit# Brandon (talk) 16:35, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

in the artical it say's(except for the Xbox 360 version which has a day to night cycle)... what did the writer mean by this? did they mean that the lighting went from sun up to sun down, because if they ment that the pc verson also does that so un less if the xbox 360 has the lighting that has day and night. this should be removed or edited to be correct. Chardrc 14:48, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
anyone... i have found a few things in this articul that i think are inaccurate but i need a second opinoin to see if they are infact wrong.. the main one was spelled out in my statement above.Chardrc 15:41, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Heat levels

Someone needs to add a section that details all the different heat levels. I would do it, but I don't really know how to go about editing the current section, how to fit it in, etc. _mich 03:38, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

A previous addition of the heat levels was moved to Wikibooks (see here), as I found that it was better suited there as a guide. Wikipedia articles are better designated to explain a quick overview of the game and gameplay; Wikibooks details it further. ╫ 25 ◀RingADing▶ 04:55, 17 February 2006 (UTC) ╫

That is a much better idea. Thanks! _mich 17:01, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

I just accidentilly rewrote a section about heat levels. I didn't know it was in wikibooks. I'll remove it.--Taida 16:32, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Just as an update, it's now in StrategyWiki. Wikibooks no longer allows game walkthroughs and game manuals. ╫ 25 ◀RingADing▶ 16:48, 21 October 2006 (UTC) ╫

There are 7 heat leves, 6 and 7 however are not attainable during career mode. They are active in a few challenge series races, level 6 has "undercover corvettes" which are navy blue like the unmarked crown victoria cops and chase Rhinos but level 7 is has chase Rhino's only and they chase you like normal cop cars. (SnakeEyesNinja (talk) 04:26, 19 September 2009 (UTC))

heat level 6 appears on cs68 :) --Modderofgames (talk) 12:50, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Police car identification

I heard somewhere that the Police GTO's were referenced as the Monaro in some European adversiments and reviews. Anyone know if this is true, since the GTO is essentially a rebadged Monaro. --293.xx.xxx.xx 11:06, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

If you look closer, a Pontiac GTO has a slightly different front/rear light treatment and grill to the Monaro. The Pontiac GTO was a face-lifted HSV Coupé/Vauxhall Monaro VXR. The Holden/Vauxhall Monaro was never released in the USA, and the V6 Monaro was Australasia only. MyWiki54 (talk) 14:33, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

PC Support

Currently the article states that EA has announced that PC Support and patching has been cancelled, however I can't find anything but a forum post to back that up. EA hasn't announced anything officially, AFAIK. --Strangnet 06:36, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

I recently got e-mail help from EA, and they still have the patches for Most Wanted. Go here: ftp://largedownloads.ea.com/pub/patches/ and download nfsmwpatch1.3.exe. It's the most recent patch. Evils Dark 10:38, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Online Play

Can someone add information regarding "Online Play" for the PC with as much detail as possible.

Fansites

There are too many fansites. Normally I wouldn't care, but seeing that recently on the Runescape article all these people said having fansites on Wikipedia articles are not allowed, these should probably be removed or moved to StrategyWiki. (Trust me, I'm trying to tell you in a nice way, but there are a few users I know of that will not be happy if they find the fansites. ;) WIKIPEEDIO 01:20, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Passage requiring source (Online play in the PS2 )

From this edit:

Where was this information cited from ? (If the passage was derived from forums, I don’t really see this as notable unless it garnered notable publicity.) Secondly, the passage is completely vague as to what exactly was influenced in EA. (did they reintroduced online play for the PS2? Have they issued any statements?) ╫ 25 ◀RingADing▶ 18:48, 7 June 2006 (UTC) ╫

I do agree with this quote. Electronic Arts did became a traitor within because of lack of rendered online gaming. That is terrible. I know they are making Need For Speed: Carbon and if they intend to cancel online gaming for the PS2 version, many PS2 fans will have to e-mail Electronic Arts that they are betraying us and switching sides against Xbox 360. Shame on you, Electronic Arts. Best Gamer 15:35, 18 July 2006

I would rather a notable source that suggests EA is a "traitor" for cancelling online play is provided before I am convinced. If this claim is simply based on one's opinion, I'm sorry to say that Wikipedia is not a soapbox to voice one's own point of view. ╫ 25 ◀RingADing▶ 17:24, 18 July 2006 (UTC) ╫
Also considering the fact that the last few games (Hot Pursuit, Underground, and Underground 2) were all multi-console. They're "backstabbing" the PS2 fans as much as they are the GC fans by not including online, which the GC has never had. FyreWulff 17:50, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure why would Electronic Arts would cancel Online Gaming for the PlayStation 2 of the game called Need For Speed: Most Wanted. If only they should not place it on the GameCube version due to it's lack of rendered Online Gaming. Electronic Arts are now making Need For Speed: Carbon, and I better hope Electronic Arts do not betray the PlayStation 2 fans. If they do, many playStation 2 fans will think that Electronic Arts was switching sides with the Xbox 360, and they must not continue to avoid day to night cycle, because it cannot be only a long constant night. Also they think Electronic Arts are a traitor to the PlayStation 2 fans. It might probably be a good idea not to put it on the GameCube version, and I'll say that exotic cars can't be upgraded, because it runs over 200 mph and not up to 192 mph or 199 mph. Best Gamer 20 August 2006

removal of fansite links

Because this page is loaded with fansites (which is not allowed according to Wikipedia Policy), only having the biggest one there is allowed. Therefore, after looking at Alexa.com's Need for Speed Fansite Rankings, the most popular NFS fansite was NFScars. Therefore I will delete all the other fansites. If anyone wishes to see how I got this data, look to the right of the following page: http://www.alexa.com/browse?&CategoryID=6986 . Thanks, WIKIPEEDIO 01:43, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Also, EA has a screenshots section, a forum, and the demo download for NFSMW on their website, so we don't need to link out to unofficial sites to get those things. I will remove those too. WIKIPEEDIO 01:46, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Are you sure that is the right decision? Make sure virtually all detail is covered in there. If it is not link to a toplist. J.J.Sagnella 16:34, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Five grand, FIVE GRAND.

Shouldn't we mention the publicity of the FMV, with Gamespot's useage of the five grand line? -user:Cody-schmidt

Go ahead. It will be an interesting addition. ╫ 25 ◀RingADing▶ 19:24, 28 June 2006 (UTC) ╫
all done. Whadda ya think? -user:Cody-schmidt

five grand it means money cos razor says they smoke that clown as known olayer --Markusizr (talk) 09:46, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Spoilers Section

It says in the spoiler section that at the beginning of the, the player has left Bayview and crosses the bridge to Rockport. While it makes perfect sense to me that Most Wanted is a continuation of U2, unless it's been confirmed by EA, I don't think it belongs in the article. -user:Someguy-021

In the "Building Rep" part of the beginning, one of the characters (I thought it was Rog, but GameFAQs calls him ???) mentions "Well, look what the Underground let lose. Let's see how well you do in the daylight." So it does seem to be confirmed by EA. VegJed 17:02, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
But according story of NFS carbon, you came to rockport from palmont after some bizarre police raid involving an EMP. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.106.104.40 (talk) 04:27, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Actually you go from Palmont to Olympic City then to Bayview then to Rockport then back to Palmont. (74.78.51.240 (talk) 23:36, 14 December 2010 (UTC))

There is no bridge between bayview and rockport, both cities are like 100+ miles apart. (SnakeEyesNinja (talk) 12:40, 6 August 2009 (UTC))

Tell that to NFS World. (74.78.51.240 (talk) 23:36, 14 December 2010 (UTC))

Blacklist needs to be added back

I don't think deleting the Blacklist was a great idea. One of the crucial aspects of the game, and it gets deleted due to an debateable policy? Putting it back in, due to it's significance. --293.xx.xxx.xx 07:15, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

I have trouble understanding the usefulness of including a blacklist. Besides listing who drives what, it does little else to explain the article's most important content - gameplay. Secondly, the blacklist characters (except Razor) have little to contribute in the storyline except being hurdles to the player - even if the drivers, driving preferences, biography and cars are rearranged, would it ever make any different to the game? Thirdly, when a reader not familiar with the game reads this article, would he/she be so concerned to details of a blacklist than information on changes in the game and new features?
The blacklist can be also compared to weapon and radio station lists in Grand Theft Auto III. A peer review suggested that both lists and other trivial info be removed because they were considered cruft, despite their significant appearances in the game. Assuming one would like to turn the Most Wanted article into a FA article, comments to remove trivial or game guide-like information would be expected if something like a blacklist is added. Even if the blacklist were to be added again, it would be likely to be removed for the reason mentioned above. ╫ 25 ◀RingADing▶ 08:12, 20 August 2006 (UTC) ╫

And one could argue that adding the car list is pointless as well. What significance does that bring? You have a list of tuner, sport car, and supercars. All mixed together, no definitive seperation, just added because they were "in the game." --293.xx.xxx.xx 22:18, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

I would remove it. A basic summary of what form of vehicles are featured (typically summed up in a paragraph or two) is sufficient. Lists like this would be more preferable in a NFS wiki, however. ╫ 25 ◀RingADing▶ 08:50, 22 August 2006 (UTC) ╫

Slight Soundtracks Section Update

I've added 'metalcore' among other genres, because there are quite alot bands related to it (ie Bullet For My Valentine, A7X, Mastodon) Iceness 19:29, 11 September 2006 (GMT)

Picture of Black Edition

Can someone add this picture into the article for me? --Taida 01:23, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

File:NfSMWBA.jpg

Sure thing. Sillygostly 07:48, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm not all too approving with this particular box art. The image was uploaded to Wikimedia Commons, which does not permit fair use images, including cover arts. While I would gladly re-upload this image into Wikipedia itself, no information on where the image comes from is provided (the original uploader, being fully aware where he/she found the image, is to provide this information), and I notified the uploader of on his/her talk page.

I could had taken the liberty of finding a Black Edition box art on my own, but, most importantly, Wikipedia:Fair use#Images states that cover arts "for identification without critical commentary" are not permitted. This particular box art is only a minor variation of the original Most Wanted cover art, merely used to present the box art's differences from that of the original version, and nothing else.

I don't believe we need a Black Edition cover in this article. ╫ 25 ◀RingADing▶ 11:54, 24 October 2006 (UTC) ╫

Carbon has one, why not Most Wanted?

Need for Speed: Carbon has a character list. So I ask again: why not Most Wanted? --293.xx.xxx.xx 07:06, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

The Carbon article's list only refers to details (characters and their cars) that are not significant in terms of what a reader outside the gaming sphere (or even a gamer who isn't interested in playing the NFS series) may want to know (gameplay), and it can't be said that the game's storyline is that integral to gameplay to be worthy of mention. This article's storyline section, by encyclopedic standards, is sufficient enough, and can be used to mention only notable characters that have made a difference in the game's storyline (we are missing a bit on Cross' role in the storyline, btw). Besides, the list risks going against WP:NOT #1.8. The same goes for a list of Blacklist racers. ╫ 25 ◀RingADing▶ 20:24, 14 November 2006 (UTC) ╫

no 350z in the game

why is the nissan 350z not in the game. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.139.15.56 (talkcontribs) 21:48, 22 February 2007 (UTC).

Questions on the game are better reserved for message boards or forums. This talk page is primarily used to discuss changes in this article. Thanks. ╫ 25 ◀RingADing▶ 16:01, 23 February 2007 (UTC) ╫

Files are on cars but that car was scrapped but can be turn as mod --Markusizr (talk) 09:48, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

AI Elasticity

I think a major criticism of the game is missing, notably the 'elastic' ai feature, where if a player gets too far ahead, the ai is allowed to 'cheat' and the performance of AI cars goes beyond the vehicles capabilities. I believe one reviewer mentioned being passed by a VW Golf whilst driving the McClaren, saying the Golf cornered like it was on rails. In addition, poor driving by the player causes the AI to scale down and crash into things. While the system is good to some degree at maintaining excitement, experienced drivers/players complained that it took out any of the fun or purpose of aquiring new, or better cars, if you could never smoke the AI's VW golfs, Renault Clios, etc...

I totally agree , thats exactly what happens , its a option called "catch up" in the "quick race" mode. I actually overpassed a McLaren and a Aston Martin at 130 km/h whit the traffic Cement Truck. But you CAN smoke other cars , or probabily every car whit every other car (ex: you win whit a Punto vs. a Carrera GT)--rapzeh (talk) 20:04, 11 February 2008 (UTC)


It's possible to sideswipe the AI opponents to make them go off the road, it seems to work only if you sideswipe the front-side of the car not the rear-sides. (SnakeEyesNinja (talk) 12:37, 6 August 2009 (UTC))


I've discovered that if I fuck up during a race the ai starts cheating like crazy to where I can't possibly catch up yet when I drive without making any mistakes it seems to play normal. *shrug* (SnakeEyesNinja (talk) 04:17, 19 September 2009 (UTC))

List of cars

Lists of cars are unencyclopedic, and there's precedent in the large amount of articles that list cars and other game vehicles being deleted. Lists of cars are considered game guide material, and as such, not to be included in Wikipedia. DurinsBane87 00:40, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

It's not "guide" material if its purpose is to better explain the game's subject matter. An F1 racing game is different from a supercar racing game, which in turn is different from a ricer drifting game. If you cannot accurately describe or summarize the game's content in paragraph form, which this article doesn't do, then you should provide the car list and let readers judge for themselves. Otherwise, you're writing a review, which is not acceptable. Currently the only information about cars is that they can be categorized into 3 distinct types, including "Euro imports" and Asian (mostly Japanese) import tuners cars, (mostly European) exotic cars and American muscle cars. According to whom? Who invented these 3 types? What exactly is an "import tuner" (no wiki article exists for this term)? What qualifies as "exotic"? This is original research. While I agree the list was bloated and you don't need to have a bullet point for every model and variation, it does serve a purpose to mention specifically which cars are in the game. Ham Pastrami 09:12, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

You don't need to list F1 cars to describe them in an F1 game. You can talk about it being an F1 game, or a ricer game. DurinsBane87 16:46, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Blacklist 16

From the demo released to promote the game, Rog was blacklist racer 16. Not that important really, but when a development section gets started it should perhaps be included.Atirage 10:52, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

he was planned to be on game on final but he ended up to demo so thats why rog on demo. --Modderofgames (talk) 12:52, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Infractions

Yeah...

I just thought it would be real helpful if someone could make a list of all the infractions commitable in this game. One of the reward cards demands 6 be commited to unlock; but as the game never list what these infractions are; and the book is just as unhelpful I was hoping the players could help out...

START LIST HERE —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.174.142.51 (talk) 13:28, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Heat Level

I've heard of this game,and it's supposed to be good.Especially with the heat level thing where the police become more sneakier and craftier the higher it gets.I like this system because it makes it more challenging for you because you have to use more cunning tricks to escape from them. Agent 00819:41, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

"The Blacklist"

I undid the edits by Beadgirl08 concerning specifics of the blacklist members because the edits were riddled with spelling/grammatical errors, the section was in the wrong place, and it lengthened the page unnecessarily.PrinceForte (talk) 23:29, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Rockport Article

I am currently starting an article on Rockport. If you have any useful information on the boroughs as well as some additional information of all spoofed landmarks, I would be greatful to hear from you. Brandon (talk) 16:35, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, can u post me the article link (if u already hav made the page)? Post me for information abt the locations. – DebPokeEditList ‖ 18:22, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Knock Knock !!!

As of now... the article is a bit messed up & Tables arn't up to the mark. There's some essential topics missing Like technical information, Graphics etc. Car Table isn't complete nor well arranged. In the Gameplay topic things needa b sorted out & all.

If someone is experienced & willing to edit the lott... post to my talk page, I can provide RAW information (cant manage time to edit, duh !) – DebPokeEditList ‖ 18:22, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Car List & Soundtrack

I removed the car list be WP:NOT (wikipedia is not an indiscriminate list of information or game guide) and WP:GAMETRIVIA item 6 (don't list gameplay items etc). I removed the soundtrack listing as soundtracks aren't really notable unless they've received significant praise or have been released separately to the game itself. Please don't add either back without discussion. Thanks! Fin© 23:19, 4 September 2008 (UTC) just came here to find the soundtrack so THANKS ALOT.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.108.178.71 (talk) 02:59, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Modded Cars

Just a suggestion because there is a huge modding community for Most Wanted. Should we just put that as a side note and maybe list the websites that have them for free download. Any thoughts or Suggestions are welcome. (Agent Mr (talk) 18:35, 12 December 2008 (UTC))

AI Diffuculty

Whoever said the AI is easy at first then is hard later on is an idiot, the AI is hard at first but it gets easier as you are able to modify the car's performance more. I've played the game a ton of times and it happens every time, hard at the beginning and easier later on. Don't bullshit tell the fucking truth. (SnakeEyesNinja (talk) 18:33, 14 March 2009 (UTC))

OK, I've never played the game, but there's a flaw in your statement. If the races become easier because you're modifying your cars performance, then the AI isn't getting easier, just easier to beat. Regardless of this, is a simple statement like that (which you could just change yourself) really anything to get that angry about? DurinsBane87 (talk) 18:11, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

No my original statement stands, the AI is hard at first then easy later on. It's hard at first because the start cars are weak pieces of shit, the best starting car in my opinion is the Lexus since it's the only rear wheel drive car of the bunch thus a better performer. I wasn't angry but I see alot of stupidity and it's just annoying. The thing is the you pretty much have to mimic the AI's car movements to really have a chance at winning, with the GTI Blacklist car anyway. The hardest blacklist car is the Evo because that son of a bitch seems to defy physics alot. He seems to go around corners and shit as if gravity doesn't exist for him. The Cayman will beat his ass though, the AI cheats like a bitch when it sees fit. (SnakeEyesNinja (talk) 12:34, 6 August 2009 (UTC))


I'm playing the game again and tonight the asshole in the Evo cheated once, I had to restart the second race but that time I barely beat him and I won his car so that son of a bitch is walking home. I usually collect as many blacklist cars as possible then part out and sell the ones I don't wish to keep on a permanent basis. Toobad izzy doesn't drive the RX-7, that would be a real prize. Instead she drives the RX-8 which is only 1 mph slower and not as tight in the handling dept as the RX-7. (SnakeEyesNinja (talk) 04:21, 19 September 2009 (UTC))

Film Adaptation Section

That's ridiculous. Should it just be deleted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.68.83.116 (talk) 00:30, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Already deleted Sarmadhassan (talk) 09:46, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Plot - Carbon sequel - 6 hours later reference removed

Need for Speed: Carbon's storyline acts as a sequel, set at 6 hours later just after Most Wanted. - This seems unlikely as the career prologue for Carbon shows the player's character leaving Palmont in the same Toyota Supra used to win the prologue race. The player arrives in Rockport with a BMW M3 GTR, and these were not available to the public until after the 2001 American Lemans Series season (only 10 of the V8 powered M3 GTRs were sold to the public, the race versions were used by private teams after the 2001 season). Orignally this was worded as undetermined time, changed to 6 hours by 110.138.130.31, and now worded to just state Carbon is a sequel and includes a prologue prequel to Most Wanted. Rcgldr (talk) 23:38, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Plot

From the beginning of the plot section until the fourth and fifth superscripts, the writing is abismal: riddled with spelling and grammatical mistakes. Also the writer put "4 days earlier" for ronnie and "4 days later" for the circuit race with Rog. That needs corrected. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.65.119.78 (talk) 06:49, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 121.209.7.16, 3 December 2010

{{edit semi-protected}} Please replace "Mia picks up the player and then informs the player about Razor's new status on the Blacklist, a group of 15 drivers most wanted by the Rockport Police Department." with "Mia picks up the player and then informs the player about Razor's new status on the Blacklist, a group of the 15 best street racers in Rockport."

121.209.7.16 (talk) 07:40, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Could you explain why you want the change? Which is the term/phrase actually used in the game? Qwyrxian (talk) 05:11, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
I'm going to collapse the template for now. However, anyone may feel free to uncollapse the template at a later point. elektrikSHOOS 22:51, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Correction Re: Police in NFS:MW

Police cars in NFS:MW comes in several levels depending on the heat level. Thus, saying "entire Rockport police department" in final pursuit is not correct.

Heat level 1 local police only, regular "Crown Vic" in police livery

Heat level 2 local police, but involving "undercover" cruisers, Crown Vic in pure black, roadblocks

Heat level 3 State police, driving Pontiac GTOs in state police livery, and possible Rhino SUVs, roadblocks

Heat level 4 State police, driving black GTOs, AND Rhino SUVs, AND police chopper, road blocks

Heat level 5 Feds are now involved, driving C6 Corvettes with Nitro in police livery, AND Rhino SUVs, AND chopper AND road blocks

Heat level 6 As Sergeant Cross puts it... "EVERY ONE!" Fed, state, local, SUV, chopper, road blocks... AND Cross himself, of course

And one more

Heat Level 7 This is only available in Black Edition as one of the "challenges"... You're ONLY facing supercharged Rhino SUVs. And way too many of them.

I know "heat level" isn't really general information, but perhaps the sentence about the final pursuit should be edited to "Sergeant Cross called in everybody available from the local, state, and Federal level to help him apprehend the player" or something to that effect.

--Kschang77 (talk) 21:34, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 70.232.42.102, 22 April 2011

I was reading your article on Need for Speed: Most Wanted and I have found an error in the article. The article states that NFS: Carbon is a sequel to Most Wanted that is not true. Anyone who has watched the entire cut scenes of NFS: Carbon knows that the person from Most Wanted came from Palmont first which is the city in Carbon. Carbon is actually a prequel to Most Wanted. Watch the cut scenes after Cross causes you to wreck your car at the beginning of Carbon and the female lead will get mad and state that you have alot of nerve coming back to Palmont after what had happened the night you left Palmont and headed out of town. 70.232.42.102 (talk) 02:13, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

  Not done: A reliable source please. ~~EBE123~~ talkContribs 20:29, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Shark99joker, 6 May 2011

i want to play this game

Shark99joker (talk) 12:44, 6 May 2011 (UTC) please help me

If you own the game, please consult the manual. If you don't own the game, I think the first step would be to go purchase it. — Bility (talk) 16:29, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

possible sequel should now be removed

https://www.facebook.com/needforspeed

it is official. Criterion now producing NFS Most Wanted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.147.168.168 (talk) 16:14, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Rename the article

We should rename the article from Need for Speed: Most Wanted to Need for Speed: Most Wanted (2005 video game).200.92.9.23 (talk) 23:17, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Weak Oppose as when referring to NFSMW, it would generally means the 2005 video game. Although there is an 2012 NFSMW, I don't see the reason to move the page, unless to create the disambiguation page (please also see the relevant case of the 2005 Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit, and its subsequent sequel and reboot) --G(x) (talk) 05:39, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
yeah, i moved the page Jawadreventon (talk) 18:21, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

No Old Spice in the game

Hello. In the game no advertising with Old Spice. Correct description of Gameplay.


man you are really wrong where is no old spice advertising Marik-modder — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marik-modder (talkcontribs) 15:24, 28 December 2014 (UTC)