Talk:Nanaimo and the Islands

Merge proposal

Support - I see I accidentally created two of these while making all the BC historical/defunct ridings; I see now that the one that should be kept is the other one, with the capital "The" - for this one I instinctively capitalized "the Islands" that way as we do in BC when referring to the Gulf and/or Vancouver Island. The reason the "The" should be capitalized is that The Islands was a constituency that was combined with part of one of the then-Nanaimo ridings to form this one...come to think of it there's a bit of gerrymandering-type history, with conservative areas added into what had been a leavily lavbourite/CCF riding of coal mining communities (the Islands were conservative in those days - "old money" and guys with their own fishing boats etc). I note that both didn't have the CanBC template; I think most I put hte BC template on, an d there's a PPAC template I think, Politics and Politicians in Canada? Mostly to do with ridings and electoral biographies/profiles, I'll see if I can find it; it should be global across all BC ridings and such; I think it's integratedwith the Biography project somehow when it comes to MP/MLA bios, cna't remember if those get it or not; riding articles like this one do. As it happens the other version of the article has the complete data, so aside from the title it should be kept; this one can be simply deleted.Skookum1 (talk) 05:01, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Actually both have the data, supposedly complete on both; but still it should be this one kept, I'd think, because of the name being from Nanaimo plus The Islands (parts of which were later Saanich and the Islands, now maybe Saanich North and the Islands? Something tells me that capital "The" is across the board; I'm curious what's used in Hansard but it rings true when I look at it. Keefer4 maybe, if you're here, might know.Skookum1 (talk) 05:13, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, well, it seems that the Saanich+ articles are not capital "The", but that could have been my mistake. Maybe I'm wrong about the capitalization thing, but I guess the thing to do is check with the Office of the Speaker and/or Elections BC.....Skookum1 (talk) 05:15, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Saanich North and the Islands is used with a lowercase the on LA of BC website. DoubleBlue (Talk) 05:25, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Elections BC has upper-case the for Nanaimo and The Islands. DoubleBlue (Talk) 05:29, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

ghits show a mix of use. DoubleBlue (Talk) 05:30, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Hansard seems to consistently use lowercase. DoubleBlue (Talk) 05:33, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

I'll have to agree with Hansard and the Speaker, although as you know my original feeling was the name was a combination of a "capital-The" name with another; as indeed it was in fact, at its origin; but lower-case it should be, given Hansard....Skookum1 (talk) 18:11, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

It doesn't appear that we're going to get any other's input on this. Skookum1 favours Hansard's style and I'm inclined to agree with the use of the LA and Hansard (and orthography) over Elections BC and historical reasons for odd capitalisation. I've just turned Nanaimo and The Islands into a redirect here since they appeared nearly identical but this one had a couple of things the other didn't. I don't think any information has been lost this way. Cheers! DoubleBlue (Talk) 21:28, 7 May 2008 (UTC)