Talk:Mthwakazi

Latest comment: 1 year ago by 2001:8003:E406:A400:E82C:97A3:2685:662F in topic Ndebele (Matabele)

Accusations without sources edit

This article needs more sources for the alleged maltreatment of the local population by government forces, otherwise it looks very one-sided and arbitrary. De728631 (talk) 16:39, 5 June 2011 (UTC)Reply

"AmaNdebele" listed at Redirects for discussion edit

  A discussion is taking place to address the redirect AmaNdebele. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 2#AmaNdebele until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 13:51, 2 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

Dubious information edit

The article talks about queen muthwa which is the ruler of the san people but like it does not have much info it seems. Also it talks about contrary to "zimbabwean" propaganda king mzilikazi not making the kingdom or something like that. Like overall, it obviously has some biases, some random local language expressions that does not seem that important.I want an expert in zimbabwe and ndebele history to properly add sources. Waltzingmogumogupeach (talk) 16:01, 28 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

Ndebele (Matabele) edit

Very interesting stories about these groups of people and the ancient southern African Kingdoms. I am very fascinated by it! However, l did k notice some of the statements here, especially about the early history of the Ndebele people, and that of the Xhosas (Eastern Cape) and Sotho from (Lesotho) being part (or under the rule) of the Great Zimbabwe Empires comes across as contradictory to sources/recorded history from South Africa. Also these don’t match up quite with tradition tribal/culture lines and relationships of pre-colonial South African Tribes. Could you add some references to these statements?

Regards Jacob 2001:8003:E406:A400:E82C:97A3:2685:662F (talk) 22:12, 13 October 2022 (UTC)Reply