Talk:Miss Universe 2013/Archive 1

CUBA is returning

Hey you can look the official facebook Miss Cuba.. if there is a pageant "Miss Cuba 2013" and the winner for Miss Universe 2013. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Let-CUBA-Participate-At-Miss-Universe/445380655473240?fref=ts

MetLife Stadium

Who put MetLife Stadium as venue??? Theres not even a venue for 2012 yet and this is not WrestleMania XXIX...-Cheetah255 (talk) 18:48, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Removed already, looks like the work of an unconstructive editor. GrayFullbuster (talk) 01:53, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

MetLife Stadium has been CONFIRMED by MUO for 2013, source in article--Johnny421 (talk) 10:31, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Missosology is not an acceptable source, no matter how you believe it to be, given it is a forum thus unreliable given rumors found there are without valid and reliable sources. Furthermore, it is illogical and counter-intuitive to announce the venue for 2013 when the venue for 2012 hasn't been announced yet (this late). Also, your cited page has expired, rendering it useless. GrayFullbuster (talk) 14:55, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

No it is not "CONFIRMED", Google only shown results regarding WrestleMania and I cleared this up with someone from Meadowlands ticket offices, Miss Universe 2013 at MetLife Stadium is nothing but a HOAX!!!!! Cheetah255 (talk) 22:05, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

I thought i told them NOT to put MetLife Stadium as venue, and another puts it back there...REALLY?!!!!!Cheetah255 (talk) 01:32, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Tiltes

You delete the part of the titles but still you mantain information about candidates like Vietnam and Kazasthan despite being unconfirmed information.Where is the source? I mean, a realible source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.24.98.165 (talk) 02:52, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Kazakhstan was confirmed, Vietnam is not, that was a Miss World 2013 delegate. Cheetah255 (talk) 19:06, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Xbox

Who keeps putting Xbox??? Like i said, its up to Donald Trump to decide that and its probably too expensive for MU 2013 to be on there. No adding XB until MUO, Microsoft or Trump confirms this. Have a nice day. 71.58.55.146 (talk) 20:44, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Sources, please!

This early on in the year, rumors and speculation could be easily turned into false facts on beauty pageant forums and blogs. such as Global Beauties, Missossology, livewireworld, and the like. (It's painfully obvious that the quality control on some of those sites are lacking, but I digress.) Thus, I ask contributors for the following:

1. References reliable news sites - A lot of the sources on the page are currently from the above mentioned sites, which I will strive to change over the next few days. The lack of proper sources AND the conflict of information on the above mentioned sources makes it extremely easy for users to edit war over who won which pageant. Please read WP:NEWSORG, WP:NEWSBLOG and other related articles. Personally, I look for news sites via Google News, and, most of the time, these are reliable.

1. Proper citations - I cannot stress this enough. Having proper citations helps immensely. Please read WP:CITE, especially WP:CITEHOW. Information such as what site it's from, the title of the article, date of publication, and the author should be included as much as possible. The editing tools in the menu bar above the edit box has a "Cite" menu, and the Templates drop-down should have the proper format you need. It's really simple stuff.

This is all pretty basic stuff that everyone needs to know in order to make Wikipedia reliable and accurate. I hope everyone is in agreement to this. Thanks. Sang'gre Habagat (talk) 02:37, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

P.S. Foreign, non-English news sources are perfectly fine. Google Translate usually would help verify simple facts such as whether the article really does say that a particular contestant is competing or not. Sang'gre Habagat (talk) 02:40, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

About Miss France.

1. Miss France is Marine Lorphelin, she have the task of represent France in Miss World and Miss Universe.

2. Miss Universe don't have a date still.

3. If Miss Universe date to be in conflict with Miss France date, then, the french representative will be another lady; meanwhile Ms. Lorphelin is the french representative at Miss Universe.

4. Finally, all the years has changes, the ladies on the list in this moment are the official representatives from their countries at Miss Universe 2013, but could be change!. Nothing it's sure until the pageant begins.

5. Please, respect to Ms. Lorphelin at list.

--Alex Duilius (talk) 04:02, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Bahrain is not competing in Miss Universe 2013

Please see this source: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://www.elaph.com/Web/Entertainment/2013/2/795348.html. Thank you. GrayFullbuster (talk) 12:31, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Bahrain wouldn't be able to compete anyways even if true due to the swimsuit round being a barrier to her Muslim culture as well as possible conflicts with the Israeli delegate. Cheetah255 (talk) 22:27, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure that this as clear-cut as you make it out to be. The IP's edits look legitimate to me, which makes this a content dispute, and admins aren't allowed to discriminate between IPs and registered editors in content disputes. However, there was definitely edit-warring going on, and that needed to stop. So, I have fully protected the article for 1 week. This source posted by an IP seems legitimate and says that Bahrain will participate, and although the Google translation of the original source is hard to make out, my interpretation was that it also indicates that Bahrain will take part. That said, I may have made a mistake in my interpretation, and I don't really mind what goes in the article - I am just outlining my reasoning for the full protection. Let me know when you reach an agreement about the disputed content, and I'll lift the protection. In the meantime if you have small requests that are unrelated to the dispute, you can request them using the {{edit protected}} template. Also, feel free to ask if you have any questions about my actions. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 13:51, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

As far I understood the source, the said representative from Bahrain will participate in a pageant in India which is something related to Miss World. But as far as I understood, there's no mention that she will participate in Miss Universe. And as it appears to be announced later than the news she will participate in Miss Universe, it should be given weight. GrayFullbuster (talk) 13:59, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Miss Montenegro

According to my sources, she was born in 1996, if this is so she is 17. However, Miss Universe rules states that a participant must be 18 and there are NO EXCEPTIONS. So who will REALLY represent country?MissUniverseLoyalFollower 15:24, 1 April 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrmeadows4u2no (talk • contribs)

Miss Sweden 2013 in April 27

Miss Sweden 2013 the Date is April 27 - 2013 [1] search — Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.135.217.40 (talk) 22:55, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

PLEASE MISS SWEDEN IN APRIL 27 !!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.135.248.136 (talk) 15:03, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

From what I heard, I believe that Miss Universe Sweden is set for August 31...that could be just for casting calls, finding contestants, all that. Cheetah255 (talk) 12:29, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Miss Universe 2013

Miss Universe 2013 in October? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.135.197.24 (talk) 22:58, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

• Reverted for being unsourced. Seems to be the work of another IP. GrayFullbuster (talk) 02:22, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

No date has even been set yet. And i'm sure this whole "Miss Universe 2013 in December because of next-generation Xbox" rumor doesn't make any sense either. Cheetah255 (talk) 08:39, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Miss India Universe 2013?

http://www.niticentral.com/2013/04/29/navneet-kaur-dhillon-miss-india-2013-dreams-to-be-62nd-miss-universe-71495.html

Should I add Navneet as a MU contestant for India, or wait for further news for Miss Universe India 2013?

--Snawple (talk) 04:00, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

• I suggest that we wait for news. As far as I know, Femina will host a separate pageant for their representative around June, I think. Navneet is already their representative to MW. GrayFullbuster (talk) 12:30, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Miss Kazakhstan

After careful research, i have come to this:

Aynur Toleuova is ineligible to compete in the Miss Universe 2013 pageant.

Miss Tolueova was crowned Miss Kazakhstan 2011 at age 16. Those competing in Miss Universe must be 18 years old by February 1st. Tolueova was born on February 4th, three days AFTER the cut-off date, rendering her ineligible.

So please DO NOT add Miss Tolueova to the delegates listing. Thank you Cheetah255 (talk) 01:10, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

lahat ay kasalin pati mga bumbay na nakahubo garbeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee — Preceding unsigned comment added by Crocusnappers (talk • contribs) 03:58, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

Date

"Miss Universe 2012 will be held in December 2013....to coincide with XBOX ONE"???!!!!! DEFINITE hoax!!! Wait until MUO confirm for the date, and as i said before, WAIT until Microsoft confirmation for any Xbox involvement!!! 71.58.55.146 (talk) 01:30, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Miss Israel

Is really Yityish Titi Aynaw going to represent Israel at Miss Universe this year? Isnt the source refering to this participation just a simple mistake by "americanized media". She is only going to represent Israel at Miss World 2013?--BabbaQ (talk) 16:24, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

I believe the first runner up was crowned Miss Israel Universe. Yityish is supposed to only be going to Miss World.

Snawple (talk) 20:20, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Bar Hefer is representing Israel at Miss Universe supposedly. Cheetah255 (talk) 06:58, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Yes I think we should atleast wait until any confirmation of this has been posted. I have a feeling Bar Hefer will indeed be representing Israel at Miss Universe and Yityish will represent them at miss world. --BabbaQ (talk) 21:12, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Height

Hi,

I beleive the contestant's heght it's a problem: every day someone change the height of a contestant with the wrong idea Miss Universe pageant it's a height's contest. The height is not considerated for the Miss Universe Organization at the record data anymore. I think is a irrelevant data.

I propose delete the contestant's height. I wait comments.--Alex Duilius (talk) 18:38, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

I removed the heights from the 2012 article last year for the exact same reason. Heights are irrelevant. They aren't even shown on the contestants' pages anymore. By all means, I support deleting that section. Mr. Gerbear (talk) 23:33, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

I concur. They're pretty much another cause of vandalism of these articles. IPs changing the heights of contestants. A list of the contestants names only is good enough for the article. GrayFullbuster (talk) 10:12, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

SOURCES

I don't understand.

Why Missosology forums are a reliable source, and pages like Globalbeauties, Times of Beauty and other not? I think we should to be more strict with that, missosology it's a terrible source! --Alex Duilius (talk) 04:00, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Any type of forum that can be posted in by just whomever is not a reliable source, period. Mr. Gerbear|Talk 04:03, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

If the forum shows the actual winner, then let the source be. However, forums shouldn't be used to indicate future pageant dates unless they are correctly sourced. Snawple (talk) 07:29, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

I highly disagree. People on forums can just say anything they want without verifying. For example, they can say someone's the winner of a certain pageant, but nobody will be sure if it's a hoax or not unless there is an actual reliable source that says so. Mr. Gerbear|Talk 08:29, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

We can use them as starting points, then check reliable sources to see if they really are the winners. Otherwise, they should be removed if the only source are these pageant forums. GrayFullbuster (talk) 11:18, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Why would they lie? These people LIVE to track pageant winners, so it would be highly unlikely that they would just make up a winner for their won amusement. Pus, some of these people actually watch live feeds of these pageants, which would technically make them the first to know who won what. --Snawple (talk) 21:34, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Because they can. Considering that the Miss Universe articles are always highly vandalized, we cannot trust these kinds of sources. There are always people, some of which could be from those forums, who are crazy fans or detractors of certain contestants or countries and add incorrect information here on Wikipedia. There are also times when UNCONFIRMED or speculative information is taken from that site and used here as a source. We cannot EVER use forums. It's policy. See WP:USERGENERATED. Mr. Gerbear|Talk 22:34, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

OK, why Globalbeauties or Times of Beauty can't be a reference? Then, I think it's time to clean those terribles sources!!!--Alex Duilius (talk) 20:47, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Miss Latina USA

Anyone knowing dates on when the final will be held etc? And when/if Miss Latina USA is crowned which flag should that person have the country of birth (pressumably some latin american country) or the American flag? Opinions please.--BabbaQ (talk) 20:12, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Isn't it going to be a reality show? I can't find the dates, but I'm sure we'll only be able to confirm what country they'll represent in Miss U after the winner is announced. Mr. Gerbear|Talk 01:35, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

The country flag will be that of the USA because the winner will be a latin-AMERICAN — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.15.86.89 (talk) 17:04, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

NO MISS JAMACIA 2013

http://www.dancehallusa.com/2013/07/miss-universe-jamaica-will-not-be-held-in-2013/

Please add this to the withdraw list — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.15.86.89 (talk) 23:32, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

The fact the pageant will not be held, doesn't means that will not be a jamaican representative at Miss Universe. Wait untill an official withdrew.--Alex Duilius (talk) 06:45, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Upcoming National Pageants

Please, don't add dates of national pageants if:

• the date is not confirmed.
• you use Missosology, or other forum, as source.
• the source is not exist anymore.

We should to be very careful with this info, and please, don't add it if not is a valid and confirmed source.

Some national organizations are doing castings, auditions and selecting girls for their competition; but, without a date, we should'nt add it.

Thanks.--Alex Duilius (talk) 21:38, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

WHY?

Why add the country to the delegates list before the delegate will be chosen?

I think it's a terrible behaviour. Some times the country it's add it 2 or 3 days after of the national pageant.

I bealive it's wrong. I invite to not do it anymore. Please, wait untill the delegate will be chosen.

--Alex Duilius (talk) 21:41, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 16 August 2013

Miss Costa Rica Fabiana Granados made top 6 at Continente Americano 2012, can this please be added thank you.

Jaime 76.20.30.133 (talk) 07:33, 16 August 2013 (UTC) 76.20.30.133 (talk) 07:33, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 12:00, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

GEORGIA

Hi. I'm looking for better sources for the info of Janeta Kerdikoshvilli will be Miss Georgia at Miss Universe, and I don't find nothing. I search at Miss Georgia official page and facebook, nothing; at Janeta Kerdikoshvilli facebook, nothing; and beauty pageants pages, nothing. I have reasons for think that's not true. The only page with a source was the own article at Wikipedia, and the source was MISSOSOLOGY FORUM, c'mon!

The last year was a hoax about Miss Kerdikoshvilli saying she was the georgian representative at Las Vegas and a fake twitter account was created; maybe the confusion it's for that. I think if she will be preparing for Miss Universe, then she don't did a casting for a pop group! I'm not convinced, and I think don't be add her again, until an official confirmation.

Why you delet Georgia...in miss universe oficial facebook page juanete was postes as an oficial contestan ....its nos oficial — Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.148.122.28 (talk) 15:32, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

--Alex Duilius (talk) 06:06, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Miss Denmark?

Will there be a Miss Denmark this year? Denmark send some strong representatives.....×96.36.72.89 (talk) 19:11, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

This page is not for asking for that.--Alex Duilius (talk) 00:11, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

This page sucks anyway and is total unreliable and a weak source of information. Data is TOTALLY UNRELIABLE and BORDERLINE FALSE AND ALEX YOU DONT HAVE TO BE A SMARTASS TO THOSE WHO QUESTION YOU — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.36.72.89 (talk) 19:19, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Namibia and Montenegro

Why did somebody take these two off the contestants list?

And who added that Azerbaijan would be debuting this year? --Snawple (talk) 20:46, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Montenegro and Namibia are officially withdrawing from the competition Azerbaijan it's officially making its debut this year span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.237.68.12 (talk) 00:46, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

I am also confused why did Namibia take off in the contestants list.yajeevh — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yajeevh (talk • contribs) 11:53, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

MU in lithuania television

This is the link. Lietuvos rytas tv will broadcast MU live.you have to translate. http://tv.lrytas.lt/?id=13837463711383211658 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.25.39.76 (talk) 00:29, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

iNTERNATIONAL BROADCASTER MU

https://www.c21media.net/miss-universe-retains-global-appeal/ http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/alfred-haber-distribution-inc-and-2013-miss-universe-pageant-circumnavigate-the-world-with-numerous-sales-230445211.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.25.39.76 (talk) 14:22, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

MU in russia television

in russia channel one will broadcast miss unvierse but delayed one hour, acording to the official channel one page it will be broadcasted at 11 pm local time, wich mean one hour delayed here its the link: http://www.1tv.ru/anons/id=198478 http://www.1tv.ru/shed/09.11.2013

MU in FINLAND television

LIV TV WILL BROADCAST MU IN FINLAND http://www.livtv.fi/ajankohtaista/uutinen/miss-universum-kisa-livill%C3%A4-911 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.25.39.76 (talk) 22:54, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

MU in Iran television

http://www.manoto1.com/shows/manotospecial/show105/episodes/missuniversepageant2013/episode4800

MU in australia television

sunday nov 10 at 11:30 am

http://au.tv.yahoo.com/tv-guide/

MU in lebanon television and arab world

http://www.lbcgroup.tv/miss-lebanon-ar/news/1641/%D9%85%D9%84%D9%83%D8%A9-%D8%AC%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%84-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%83%D9%88%D9%86-%D9%87%D8%B0%D8%A7-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D8%A8%D8%AA-%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%89-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%80-lbci-%D9%88%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%80-ldc — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.25.39.76 (talk) 23:11, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

MU in france television

http://www.paris-premiere.fr/cs-miss_univers_2013/videos/11324540-suivez_l_election_de_miss_univers_2013_samedi_a_19h00_sur_paris_premiere.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.25.39.76 (talk) 23:16, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

MU in Angola television

tv zimbo http://www.tvzimbo.co.ao/entretenimento/exibir/12537-vaumara-rebelo-na-luta-pela-conquista-do-miss-universo/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.25.39.76 (talk) 04:30, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

MU in Singapore television

mediacorp channel 5 live sunday nov 10 2 am and rerun 10 pm http://entertainment.xin.msn.com/en/tv/tv-guide.aspx — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.25.39.76 (talk) 04:54, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

MU in Turkey television

in turkey will be broadcasted by Star tv ( Doğuş Media Group) search cumartesi http://www.startv.com.tr/yayin-akisi

MU in Vietnam television

http://vtv6.com.vn/NewsDetail.aspx?id=27340 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.25.39.76 (talk) 13:43, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

MU in Romania television

tvr2 and tvr hd http://www.tvr.ro/finala-miss-universe-2013-sambata-in-direct-la-tvr-hd-si-online-pe-tvr_5525.html#view — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.154.86.157 (talk) 21:26, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

MU in Slovenia television

http://www.siol.net/tv-spored.aspx?ch=Planet+TV&p1=2&p3=0&p4=0 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.154.86.157 (talk) 21:55, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Final look song

Hi, just inform that the final look song is A Little Party Never Killed Nobody (All We Got) by Fergie. Please someone can add it to the page. Ray1604 (talk) 21:02, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

In Historical significances one fact says "India, Puerto Rico and USA also placed as semifinalists last year". Puerto Rico did not place last year. Puerto Rico last placed in 2011 so it should say "India and USA also placed as semifinalists last year" and the fact that says "China, Costa Rica and Ukraine last placed in 2011" should say "China, Costa Rica, Puerto Rico, and Ukraine last placed in 2011" 74.32.7.118 (talk) 01:20, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

• Historical Significance has been removed. The same has already been done in the past with other Miss Universe, Miss World and other pageant articles, they are just laundry lists of minor trivia and have no place in the article. Furthermore, sources are not reliable. GrayFullbuster (talk) 03:54, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

• Bulleted list item

Opening Number Music

There were two songs played during the opening number. The first was Clarity and the second was "Walking On Air" by Anise K 74.32.17.212 (talk) 18:16, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. The whole section is unreferenced, and I've tagged it. The wikilinks could use some attention, too: Zedd is a disambiguation page; Foxes is a redirect to Fox (the animal). --Stfg (talk) 18:32, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

MU in Myanmar

Sky net up to date broadcasted MU in Myanmar

MU in Israel

Miss Universe competition day was broadcasted on Channel 9 at 22:00 https://www.facebook.com/Malkat.Hayofi — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.29.108.101 (talk) 14:30, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

*Swimsuit Competition: "Miss Jackson" and "I Write Sins Not Tragedies" by Panic! at the Disco (Live Performance)

Reference for above subject/headline - & Darlene2601 (talk) 02:25, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Not done: please make your request in a "change X to Y" format. Thanks, Celestra (talk) 19:11, 20 November 2013 (UTC)