Talk:MA-1 bomber jacket

Merging Wikipedia Entries

I have noticed that these two wikipedia entries are very similar, and even go as far as using the same image. I'm suggesting these two articles be merged due to them being almost identical entries. Chris9450 (talk) 05:07, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

• I agree with this and suggest a WP:BOLD approach and just go ahead with it. --Pmedema (talk) 15:37, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

• I agree as well. The entries are essentially identical! A change is needed. --Guest User 12:23, 5 December 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.210.222.202 (talk)

• I agree too, but would move MA-1 bomber jacket into Flight jacket since Flight jacket is the generic term, while MA-1 bomber jacket is a specific brand/style. (Like moving Brand X Cola into a new subsection in a Cola article, versus moving Cola into Brand X Cola.) Maybe make separate subsections in Flight jacket detailing the most common styles. Dr. Stantz (talk) 03:11, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

• I disagree. The history of the Flight Jacket and Bomber Jacket are distinctly different. Even the traditional designs/styles are substantively different. While there may be some who casually use the terms interchangeably, they are not. The flight jacket is traditionally tight around the waist and the wrists - while the bomber jacket is traditionally longer and often embellished with fur trimmings and hoods for increased warmth.--Gewatson

citation needed for people?

All the requests for citations at the bottom of the article are pretty funny. Especially this one: "The jacket is also worn by many people[citation needed] in North America,..." Do we really need to cite evidence that the jacket is also worn by people? As opposed to what? Anyway, I feel like anyone who lives in an urban setting sees hundreds of these things being worn in the winter. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.253.38.34 (talk) 22:33, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Color of example image - green grey blue?

Someone just changed the caption for the example image, with editsummary: "Changed 'Petrol Blue' in image to 'Sage Green', which is the colour of the jacket pictured."

I tried to confirm this (as it doesn't appear particularly "green" to my eyes), and I'm having trouble finding anything conclusive.

• The image itself File:MA-1 Jacket in petrol.jpg was uploaded with the "petrol" color noted in the description, and filename. The original uploader hasn't edited in the last few years, so cannot be contacted. However he did also upload the (now deleted) image File:Early MA-1.JPG, which might provide further clues (if an admin would glance at the deleted version of image and description).
• The official producers, Alpha Industries, in their current line of products, lists "Ink" and "Gun Metal" at Authentic MA-1, and lists "Sage Green", "Gun Metal", "Black", "Navy", and "Replica Blue" at MA-1 Flight Jacket. Their "Sage Green" is distinctly green.
• http://www.buzzricksons.jp/product/us_air_force-0015.html is a distinctly green color, and is labeled "sage green".
• http://www.buzzricksons.jp/product/us_air_force-0013.html is a very grey looking color, but is also labeled "sage green".
• this blog post about reproduction Ricksons has very grey looking photos, but are labeled as "Sage Green".
• http://www.uswings.com/ma-1.asp has a large selection of jackets, a few of which are labeled "sage green" (but appear to be in a variety of hues).
• http://www.exarmy.co.uk/shop/shopimages/products/normal/300.jpg displays 4 colours, including a greyish-green "sage green" and a dark blue "petrol blue".

Most sites that mention "petrol blue" seem to be copying our article (usually the entire thing).

Possibly we'll just have to find a new image, with verifiable details. However this image is in use at many other Wikipedias, so it would be good to find correct details for this image.

Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks. -- Quiddity (talk) 19:23, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Gay subculture

There really ought to be some kind of mention of the MA-1 bomber jacket in the gay skinhead subculture. — OwenBlacker (Talk) 11:45, 18 April 2014 (UTC)