Talk:Lists of indigenous peoples of Russia

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There is an online book called The Red Book of the Peoples of the Russian Empire that contains a much longer list (and a lot of detail) about indigenous and minority groups in Russia. Some of these might be appropriate to add to this list. I won't do this myself though because I'm no expert and would probably get it wrong.

Book: http://www.eki.ee/books/redbook/introduction.shtml

I don't know what the provenance or copyright status of the original text is.

"lists", eh?

How about moving this page to "Lists of indigenous peoples of Russia"? --24.6.228.145 (talk) 20:55, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Capitalisation

I'd like to note that the term indigenous is used in this article and its title as a common noun – i.e., it does not denote a specific ethnicity but simply indicates all those peoples that inhabited the territory for millennia.

Compare: American Natives (proper noun denoting a distinct group) vs A native of New York (common noun). She was an Indigenous woman (proper noun) vs indigenous tribes of Eastern Europe (common noun).

Unlike proper nouns, common nouns are not normally capitalised on Wikipedia. — kashmīrī ^TALK 13:02, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

@Kashmiri Capitalization of Indigenous is recommended for English Wikipedia when referring to Indigenous peoples by both Wikipedia:INDIGENOUS and MOS:RACECAPS. Whether or not these guidelines are US-centric or North America-centric is another question. I will raise the question on WikiProject Russia's ethnography and demographics taskforce. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 20:14, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

@Bohemian Baltimore Both these guidelines fail to distinguish uses as common noun and uses as an ethnonym. WP:INDIGENOUS in particular is heavily entrenched in the North American public discourse where the term is predominantly used as an ethnonym (similar to the terms Black and White). Is there a Good English Taskforce somewhere? — kashmīrī ^TALK 20:19, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

@User:Oncamera Pinging Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 20:26, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

There's not a "Russian English" standard on Wikipedia per MOS:ENGVAR, so I don't see why it's not following the standard on WP:Indigenous regardless of what's used in Eastern Europe.  oncamera  _{(talk page)} 05:17, 10 May 2024 (UTC)