Talk:List of transposing instruments

Article Cleanup

Just visiting this page. Excellent resource, but it could use some cleanup in terms of comments, abbreviations, and formatting (use of bold text in odd spots). At present it looks pretty informal rather than professional. I will clean up a couple things while I'm here. Jwberns (talk) 22:47, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

Comment

Wait, why are the bass recorders under "high (sounds an octave higher than written)"? If they sounded an octave HIGHER than written, they'd be written in bass clef with tons of ledger lines. I'm not fixing it because I'm not sure whether they sound an octave lower than written, or more than an octave, or what, but I do know that what's currently there isn't correct. Triangular (talk) 03:55, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

No, really: they do in fact sound an octave higher than written. They sound in the range F3-G5, so they are written in the bass clef from F2-G4, with a perfectly reasonable number of ledger lines (three) at the most. Double sharp (talk) 16:24, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

Regarding the new article

I created this article by transferring some material from [[Instrument transposition]] (per discussion on [[Talk:Instrument transposition]]). This ought to be a list-class article but I do n't know how specify that the new article should be created as a list-class article. If you know how to change that, please do. <small><font color = "grey">Contact </font><font color = "blue">[[User:Basemetal|Basemetal]]</font> <font color = "red">[[User talk:Basemetal|here]]</font></small> 18:06, 6 May 2013 (UTC) Basemetal 13:29, 6 September 2016 (UTC) [[User:Basemetal|<span style="color:black">Basemetal</span>]] 15:23, 6 September 2016 (UTC)Basemetal 17:31, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

Done. Skiasaurus (skē’ ə sôr’ əs) 02:17, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

::You seem to have made <u>this</u> talk page a list-class article, not the real article <small><span style="color:#C0C0C0;">Contact </span>[[User:Basemetal|<span style="color:blue;">Basemetal</span>]] [[User talk:Basemetal|<span style="color:red;">here</span>]]</small> 15:56, 8 May 2013 (UTC) Basemetal 13:29, 6 September 2016 (UTC) [[User:Basemetal|<span style="color:black">Basemetal</span>]] 15:23, 6 September 2016 (UTC)Basemetal 17:31, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

:::But I saw how you did it , so now I did it to the article too <small>,<font style="color:#C0C0C0">Contact </font><font color = "blue">[[User:Basemetal|Basemetal]]</font> <font color = "red">[[User talk:Basemetal|here]]</font></small> 15:59, 8 May 2013 (UTC) Basemetal 13:29, 6 September 2016 (UTC) [[User:Basemetal|<span style="color:black">Basemetal</span>]] 15:23, 6 September 2016 (UTC)Basemetal 17:31, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

== Removal of the non-transposing instruments section</s> == I don't think it was necessary to remove the non-tranposing instruments section as the title of the article is "List of instruments by transposition" and not "List of transposing instruments". <small><span style="color:#C0C0C0;">Contact </span>[[User:Basemetal|<span style="color:blue;">Basemetal</span>]] [[User talk:Basemetal|<span style="color:red;">here</span>]]</small> 16:01, 8 May 2013 (UTC) Basemetal 13:30, 6 September 2016 (UTC) [[User:Basemetal|<span style="color:black">Basemetal</span>]] 15:24, 6 September 2016 (UTC)Basemetal 17:33, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

Are we sure about the transpositions for the flutes?

MuseScore writes them all by default at concert pitch (the ones in C; the others are in G or E-flat). Even if you ignore its octave clefs, then the contrabass flute gets notated by default in bass clef at concert pitch (making the subcontrabass flute a sound an octave lower then written and the hyperbass flute a CC instrument). What do scores using these instruments use? Double sharp (talk) 15:14, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Always flat, never sharp?

The Minuet from Haydn's "Farewell" Symphony (No. 45) uses "Horns in F♯" (Corni in Fis). Double sharp (talk) 16:18, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

:Those Germans!!! I seem to recall that in a letter to his father Mozart calls a work which is clearly in E-flat, I forget which one, a work "in Dis". Germans, at least in the 18th c., seem to have a had slightly cavalier attitude regarding those distinctions, so this might be an explanation. Then again it might genuinely be that the modern convention was not yet in force. You're free to change things if you object. <small><span style="font-family:Courier New;color:#C0C0C0">Contact [[User:Basemetal|</span><span style="color:red">Basemetal</span>]] [[User talk:Basemetal|<span style="color:blue">here</span>]]</small> 13:14, 5 September 2016 (UTC) WHY IS MY SIGNATURE ALSO STRUCK THRU? Basemetal 13:37, 6 September 2016 (UTC) [[User:Basemetal|<span style="color:black">Basemetal</span>]] 15:25, 6 September 2016 (UTC)Basemetal 17:35, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

I don't know what Mozart piece this is, but certainly the Eroica was referred to before its premiere as a symphony "in Dis". I would find it a little odd to write "Horns in G♭" in a piece in F♯ major (with a six-sharp key signature, no less), so this makes sense. The text seems to have already been removed. (Also, nice to see you again! How long has it been?) Double sharp (talk) 13:20, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

Citations?

This article could use a bit of documentation. I see many instruments listed which are either obsolete, or so rare as to be the next best thing. Then there are oddball instruments listed -- without citation -- such as the "tenor xylophone", which supposedly exists at some middle school in the midwest, but which I've not seen or heard of elsewhere. At the same time there is no listing for "bass marimba", an arguably more common instrument that transposes at the octave. Other instruments are apparently in progress, but no citations are given here, either. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.95.43.253 (talk) 23:52, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

What about guitars?

Guitars sound an octave below written, and they are hardly "oddball instruments." Am I just missing something here (wouldn't be the first time)? Ormewood (talk) 19:08, 9 May 2023 (UTC)