Talk:List of systems management systems

The domain of systems management

By the way, you've just added the descriptions of those system administration tools to the list of systems management systems. Once again, these articles are about enterprise-wide management systems, not system administration tools. You should revert your edits or allow me to do it. Maybe you were confused by wrong categorization of the articles, weren't you? — Anrie Nord (talk • contribs) 2007-04-17 23:55Z

Please repost this comment in the talk section of the appropriate page. (Done by me - Djbclark) You seem to be confusing your personal definition of "systems management" with the canonical truth. There is not a single taxonomy that everyone agrees on; there are multiple points of view. And again with the nebulous "enterprise"; how is Nagios (which you put on the list and/or left in) more "enterprise" than say Cfengine? The former is pretty much just a monitoring system; the later can do monitoring type stuff, plus "enterprise management" type stuff (whatever that means). If you can come up with clear definitions of different categories of systems management applications that do not reference standards that are not agreed on, I would be fine with using that categorization within the articles (along with a note of the category definitions). — Djbclark 00:22, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Vendor addition?

The list appears to be missing one vendor/product I am aware of: NetIQ AppManager. If in agreement, please add or respond and I'll look at submitting the edits. 208.223.102.8 (talk) 14:43, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Supported Operating Systems?

This list does not display which operating systems are supported, do we agree that this should be added? --Hm2k (talk) 11:04, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Sorting Breaks Table

There's an issue with the table on this page when sorting. Sorting by "Open Source" descending seems to put the table back into order, but sorting by any other column breaks the table. Browser: Google Chrome 11; OS: Windows 7; -- Swivelgames (talk) 03:11, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

No sources for verification

The article does not cite any sources for verification. I am adding the template. canaar (talk) 09:04, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Removal of items on 14:37, 8 February 2017‎ (clean list)

Several very relevant items have been removed from the list.

No specific reason has been given. I accept there may be reasons. And there may be different reasons on different entries. And some entries may be retainable if fixed.

I have reverted the edit (I would have preferred to re-instate particular entries on a one by one basis) and welcome discussions on why particular entries should be removed.

Djm-leighpark (talk) 08:34, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Re-instated from 764365675 undo were: Zyrion Traverse Verax NMS Tivoli Framework SUSE Enterprise Manager Patch Dashboard Landscape Accelops

Djm-leighpark (talk) 08:52, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

As it says at the top of the article, this is a list of notable systems management systems. 'Notable' on Wikipedia means that they should have a preexisting Wikipedia article. See Wikipedia:Stand-alone_lists#Common_selection_criteria and Wikipedia:Write the article first for more information. - MrOllie (talk) 10:54, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

In terms of common sense I have a strong feeling Tivoli Framework, SUSE Enterprise Manager and Landscape should be on the list. The last two I added myself and were on the originating company's homepage. After feeling I was suffering from a WP:BITE in the middle of a bad few days and wondering if it was worth giving up the ghost on this and another new article as they can fall under WP:PRODUCT Catch-22 (logic). An alternative list would be one way forward with different terms of reference, especially as current list is Network management system tainted in my opinion. However as least resistance, and list the red-link already exists on the [[SUSE] page I'll probably do Wikipedia:Write the article first for SUSE Enterprise Manager. Landscapes is trickier, but its ironic Wikimedia_servers#Software show Canonical Ubuntu usage. The Tivoli Software shows Tivoli Framework originally had an article page but was subject to a rename to Tivoli Management Framework and then a WP:SPEEDY deletion. Refer also Wikipedia:Deletion process. Other Wikipedia languages still currently have articles, though now without issues, with some good information but lacking on source citations. As I may look to create Tivoli Management Framework I will discuss with appropriate administrator, fully expecting deleted article to be on non-apparent quality however it may contain some information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Djm-leighpark (talk • contribs) 23:40, 15 February 2017 (UTC)