Talk:List of songs recorded by Lady Gaga/Archive 1
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Red And Blue EP
What about songs from Red and blue EP (Something crazy, Words, No floods,red and blue an wish you were here ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.114.167.117 (talk) 19:23, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
Not done They don't fit in. GagaNutellatalk 16:27, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
Other songs
What about Christmas Tree, Electric kiss, Viva La Vida, Dy'er Maker und Imagine? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.114.167.117 (talk) 17:07, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
Inclusion of leaked/not leaked/BMI registered/performed live songs section
TV's reason for them being included is: "other artists have this. if you have a problem open up a debate in the talk. you don't get to make the sole decision." So here is where the debate can take place. My opinion: No, not all of them have this. Out of the FLs, Rihanna's does, but Leona's and Alexandra's do not. And neither does Adele's. This is a list of recorded songs, and currently there is not one single source in TV's table addition which sources anything that has been recorded. Rihanna's are sourced for confirming which album the songs were intended for, and a source is provided for it being recorded. Furthermore, TV's table addition is simply gigantic, it's bigger than the actual table of recorded songs for her albums. To be honest, there isn't really any notability for them either. However, TV is convinced they should stay. (Note: See this discussion and its comments - Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of unreleased Britney Spears songs). I will happily remove the "Other songs" table from Rihanna's list if necessary. AARON• TALK 19:25, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
- Rihanna includes ASCAP, Britney includes ASCAP, Lana Del Rey's includes ASCAP/BMI, Brandy's includes ASCAP. I could probably go on and find more, but that's pointless. We can change the page to "List of Rihanna songs" if that makes more sense to you. The information is NOT original research, it's listed publicly on BMI for ANYONE to research and lists EVERYONE'S information. It's not like I found it on her MySpace music profile from 2004. If you look at your archive[1], you'll see the true reason why you don't want this on here. Please stop playing games and get over it. --TV | talk 23:18, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
- Rihanna's includes to show the writers, as the songs are referenced to Digital Spy/Rap-Up/MTV who confirm the recording. No, all the articles are "List of songs recorded by..." they are not allowed to be changed to "List of ... songs" per consensus. It IS original research, most of your additions are unsourced, which is original research. I'm not playing games, it's not needed. If it's not notable of an article, it's definitely not notable enough for a sub section. Don't play games with me. If you remove it again, I'll report for it, as drastic additional changes should never be implemented without discussion, and you didn't discuss. You don't know what you're talking about. This is a list of recorded songs, and 90% of the songs you added have never been recorded. BMI/ASCAP means written, no one knows if they are recorded, and there are no sources to prove it. Get it now??? AARON• TALK 23:25, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
- Do you know how childish you just sounded? You're not making the executive decision here. BMI is a reliable source so you will not remove those. Feel free to remove the others. But until an admin gives their opinion, you're not removing the section. Don't create an edit war. --TV | talk 23:29, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
- Also, don't tell me the songs haven't been recorded if they've been LEAKED. Please go away. --TV | talk 23:31, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
- I'm not being childish, you're just completely missing the point and not getting it. Yes, BMI is reliable for sourcings songwriters, but it does not confirm if the song was recorded. Do you understand? You obviously don't. Unless you can find FL approved reliable sources saying that these songs were recorded, then yes, they will be removed. Learn the rules of Wikipedia. So where are the sources saying they leaked?? Are they demos? Or are they finished recordings? See what I mean, you have no idea what you're talking about. You go away. AARON• TALK 23:32, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
- Get an admin's opinion and you can do whatever you want. I'm not a Gaga fan, I created this list for her fans. I could care less and do not have time for a dumb argument. But it would be nice if you would stop being lazy and helped source it further. --TV | talk 23:37, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
- You seem to be missing the point, again. I've promoted three of these lists to FL, which means they are recognized as Wikipedia's best lists. I already know the outcome of an admin. It's not about creating something for her fans, you're not adhering to Wikipedia rules and policies. AARON• TALK 23:40, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
- You're not an admin. Get an admin's opinion. Britney's article contains dead links to ASCAP pages without independent sources saying the songs were recorded. I honestly don't care about your opinion for this article any further. Your reasons why it should be deleted have changed numerous times. Thanks & I look forward to opinions from different people. --TV | talk 23:44, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
- I know the opinion, I'm far more experienced than you are. I don't care about Britney's article. If Britney's list has songs without sources saying they have been recorded, they should be removed. No, my reason has always been the same. I've removed the unsourced songs from your addition, if you can't find sources for the BMI logged songs saying they were recorded, they will be removed, then I can carry on with improving it for FL, which you interrupted. AARON• TALK 23:47, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
- You're not an admin. Get an admin's opinion. Britney's article contains dead links to ASCAP pages without independent sources saying the songs were recorded. I honestly don't care about your opinion for this article any further. Your reasons why it should be deleted have changed numerous times. Thanks & I look forward to opinions from different people. --TV | talk 23:44, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
- You seem to be missing the point, again. I've promoted three of these lists to FL, which means they are recognized as Wikipedia's best lists. I already know the outcome of an admin. It's not about creating something for her fans, you're not adhering to Wikipedia rules and policies. AARON• TALK 23:40, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
- Get an admin's opinion and you can do whatever you want. I'm not a Gaga fan, I created this list for her fans. I could care less and do not have time for a dumb argument. But it would be nice if you would stop being lazy and helped source it further. --TV | talk 23:37, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
- I'm not being childish, you're just completely missing the point and not getting it. Yes, BMI is reliable for sourcings songwriters, but it does not confirm if the song was recorded. Do you understand? You obviously don't. Unless you can find FL approved reliable sources saying that these songs were recorded, then yes, they will be removed. Learn the rules of Wikipedia. So where are the sources saying they leaked?? Are they demos? Or are they finished recordings? See what I mean, you have no idea what you're talking about. You go away. AARON• TALK 23:32, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
- Also, don't tell me the songs haven't been recorded if they've been LEAKED. Please go away. --TV | talk 23:31, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
- Do you know how childish you just sounded? You're not making the executive decision here. BMI is a reliable source so you will not remove those. Feel free to remove the others. But until an admin gives their opinion, you're not removing the section. Don't create an edit war. --TV | talk 23:29, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
- Rihanna's includes to show the writers, as the songs are referenced to Digital Spy/Rap-Up/MTV who confirm the recording. No, all the articles are "List of songs recorded by..." they are not allowed to be changed to "List of ... songs" per consensus. It IS original research, most of your additions are unsourced, which is original research. I'm not playing games, it's not needed. If it's not notable of an article, it's definitely not notable enough for a sub section. Don't play games with me. If you remove it again, I'll report for it, as drastic additional changes should never be implemented without discussion, and you didn't discuss. You don't know what you're talking about. This is a list of recorded songs, and 90% of the songs you added have never been recorded. BMI/ASCAP means written, no one knows if they are recorded, and there are no sources to prove it. Get it now??? AARON• TALK 23:25, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
- As a writer of one FL of songs, I think that unreleased but recorded material can rightly be included if it can be referenced; as the title is "songs recorded by so and so", performed live won't work. If unreferenced, nix it. As for being an admin... I don't get a supervote, and my opinion in a discussion should not have any more weight than another editor's. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:00, 6 November 2012 (UTC) edit00:02, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
- What's with the removal of the cited (unreleased) songs? That's still a viable subject for this list. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:33, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
- No it's not. This is a list of recorded songs. BMI doesn't not state if songs were recorded, only written. We don't even know if the songs on BMI are the final written version either. AARON• TALK 01:35, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
- Fair enough. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:37, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
- So, then why can't two citations just be used to confirm a song's having been recorded? A citation of her BMI repertoire confirms the song is by her, and a citation to a leaked recording of the song confirms she also recorded the song. Many of these unreleased songs can also be confirmed by direct quotes from Lady Gaga, as she has commented on the leaking of many of her songs. A demo is also still an official recording of the song, even if the mixing and production of the song is unfinished.--LurganShmith (talk) 11:36, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
- Fair enough. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:37, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
- No it's not. This is a list of recorded songs. BMI doesn't not state if songs were recorded, only written. We don't even know if the songs on BMI are the final written version either. AARON• TALK 01:35, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
Untitled post
And Christmas Tree ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by FerniiMM (talk • contribs) 18:40, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
Edit Request 3 November 2013
I know the page isn't locked, but idk how to do this. Can someone please update the "contents" page to include a numbers option, as I've added "3-Way (The Golden Rule)" to the list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FeFiFo (talk • contribs) 15:52, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
Bad Romance
There are french lyrics in Bad Romance but it's not reported, could we know why ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ThibaultGerm (talk • contribs) 11:23, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
Done I added. GagaNutellatalk 15:51, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
Unreleased songs
Do we really have to include those unreleased songs like "Brooklyn Nights" and "Don't Give Up". She has had many other unreleased songs such as "Second Time Around". I don't think we need to list those songs, do we? Since you are a major contributor to this page, I am pinging you @GagaNutella:. -- Frankie talk 10:57, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
- @FrB.TG: I don't think too. We also should not list the Red and Blue EP's songs. Maybe in the future we could create the article just for these songs, like this one. But how I said, maybe. Let's just keep the free download songs, like "Stuck On Fuckin' You". GagaNutellatalk 15:25, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
Sources temporarily removed from article to clean up a bit
*<ref>{{cite news|url=http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/music/2014/07/28/lady-gaga-tony-bennett-team-up-for-anything-goes/13244509/|title=It's a world gone mad as Gaga, Bennett duet on 'Goes'|last=Ryan|first=Patrick|date=July 28, 2014|accessdate=July 29, 2014|work=USA Today}}</ref>
Current stage
FrB.TG, IndianBio, SNUGGUMS, GagaNutella
I think the table is perfect now. Songs and albums sort in order. How do we feel about the lead? Where do you think the article is at now, with regard to nominating? — Calvin999 12:16, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
- If anything, name a few of the songs covered in "Cheek to Cheek" first. Snuggums (talk / edits) 13:41, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
- Yes a minor copy edit to the lede section and adding the publisher-id of the album liner notes, after that we would be done. —Indian:BIO [ ChitChat ] 13:43, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
- Looks quite good now. I hope you don't mind to include me as the co-nominator. Also, do remember that your current FLC has many outstanding concerns, and given that, you can't add a second one. -- Frankie talk 14:13, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
- It doesn't apply if I am co-nominator, only if I am the sole nominator, because my current FLC doesn't affect or involve any of you. — Calvin999 17:07, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
- Looks quite good now. I hope you don't mind to include me as the co-nominator. Also, do remember that your current FLC has many outstanding concerns, and given that, you can't add a second one. -- Frankie talk 14:13, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
- Yes a minor copy edit to the lede section and adding the publisher-id of the album liner notes, after that we would be done. —Indian:BIO [ ChitChat ] 13:43, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
- The article looks very clean and organized now! Congratulations for everyone's contributions. I will add two points here, one is an idea and the other one is a detail.
- Gaga has a lot of notable unreleased songs. I saw on Bey's list and they divided the article in two sections (released and unreleased). What do you think we do the same?
- The "other performers" section, I think we shouldn't mention Gaga in any case. I mean, if the article is about songs she recorded, is course she is on it. For example: "Chillin" just mention Wale and "Anything Goes" just Bennett.
- Remeber these are just points, so please don't come with stones. I appreciate your thoughts. Thank you. GagaNutellatalk 16:20, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
- Unreleased songs don't really have a place in an article like this, unless it has leaked and there is commentary on it. Otherwise, we don't know who wrote it, when it was recorded, if it was even recorded, or when. It's important to highlight that Gaga is a featured act on those songs. — Calvin999 17:00, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
- Remeber these are just points, so please don't come with stones. I appreciate your thoughts. Thank you. GagaNutellatalk 16:20, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
Looks great! Thanks to all who have worked on this list. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:44, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
- Guys, is anyone going to add the publisher-id for the liner notes? Or shall I do it. The amount of editing going on, I fear I might do an edit conflict. —Indian:BIO [ ChitChat ] 05:39, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
- @IndianBio: No one is editing the article at the moment so you might do that. It'd be very kind of you. :) -- Frankie talk 12:15, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
- It's been three days since the last edit, so I think we are ready. Who's going to nominate it for FL? GagaNutellatalk 17:30, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
- I could do that, but I have already submitted Lady Gaga videography, and I can't have two open nominations at one time. I am in no hurry so let's wait for Calvin. -- Frankie talk 18:07, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
- I think Calvin999 should do it. —Indian:BIO [ ChitChat ] 06:00, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
- I could do that, but I have already submitted Lady Gaga videography, and I can't have two open nominations at one time. I am in no hurry so let's wait for Calvin. -- Frankie talk 18:07, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
- It's been three days since the last edit, so I think we are ready. Who's going to nominate it for FL? GagaNutellatalk 17:30, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
- @IndianBio: No one is editing the article at the moment so you might do that. It'd be very kind of you. :) -- Frankie talk 12:15, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
I also have an nomination open so I don't mind being a co-nominator but I don't think it should be me to nominate it as such lol — Calvin999 11:49, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
- I don't know how to nominate lol. So I think SNUGGUMS or Indian should do it. Or we wait until Calvin and Frankie. GagaNutellatalk 14:44, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
Should one of us nominate now? — Calvin999 11:00, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
- Shall I do it tomorrow? —Indian:BIO [ ChitChat ] 11:10, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
- Whenever. Or now? Lol. — Calvin999 11:11, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
- Lol, I could, but just want to give it a final fresh look and then move ahead. —Indian:BIO [ ChitChat ] 11:14, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
- Okay. — Calvin999 11:16, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
- Guys, let's make it now? It's time!!! GagaNutellatalk 00:57, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
- I'm not sure if you'd be able to be listed as a nominee though, GagaNutella, since you've already got Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of awards and nominations received by American Horror Story/archive1 running. Snuggums (talk / edits) 01:13, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
- I think I'm able as a co-nominator. GagaNutellatalk 01:44, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
- I'm not sure if you'd be able to be listed as a nominee though, GagaNutella, since you've already got Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of awards and nominations received by American Horror Story/archive1 running. Snuggums (talk / edits) 01:13, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
- Guys, let's make it now? It's time!!! GagaNutellatalk 00:57, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
- Okay. — Calvin999 11:16, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
- Lol, I could, but just want to give it a final fresh look and then move ahead. —Indian:BIO [ ChitChat ] 11:14, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
- Whenever. Or now? Lol. — Calvin999 11:11, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
Ugh, we've been discussing this for a month. IndianBio could you please bother to nominate? -- Frankie talk 15:27, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
"Fashion" on Britain's Next Top Model
I think they've been using "Fashion" for the advertising of the new series of Britain's Next Top Model on UK TV. — Calvin999 11:08, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
A Star Is Born songs
Done
Reminder to update this list with songs from A Star Is Born ---Another Believer (Talk) 21:07, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 13:02, 9 October 2018 (UTC)