Talk:List of modern armoured fighting vehicles

List of modern armoured fighting vehicles

APC "Talha" does not link to a vehicle, but a religious article. Karoschne 23:12, July 13, 2005 (UTC)

The entry for Talha APC is under APC-Talha. Minor edit to T-90 -> T-90-II/MBT-2000. Adeptitus 00:09, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Iraq and the T-80

This list gives Iraq as having the T80, when in fact they never did. I think that should be removed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 142.167.146.236 (talk) 01:00:30, August 19, 2007 (UTC)

Australia has the Abrams M1A1 main battle tank

Australia has the Abrams M1A1 main battle tank. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.240.236.8 (talk) 14:26, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Canada Leopard 2A6 were upgraded to 2A6M main battle tank

According to the article on Wikipedia "To meet immediate needs in Afghanistan, twenty of the Bundeswehr's stock of Leopard 2A6 were upgraded to 2A6M standard and loaned to Canada at no cost by the German government. Two Leopard 2 Büffel armoured recovery vehicles were acquired at the same time. These vehicles were shipped from Germany to Afghanistan, with the first arriving on August 16, 2007.[5]

For the long term, Canada plans to replace the borrowed Leopard 2 tanks with a purchase of 100 surplus vehicles from the Netherlands, including 40 Leopard 2A6M for combat service, 40 Leopard 2A4 for training, and 20 support vehicles, such as armoured recovery vehicles, armoured bridge-laying vehicles and armoured engineering vehicles.

The older Leopard C2 tanks are considered to become completely obsolescent in 2015, but specific plans for them have not been announced.[6]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopard_1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tercero (talk • contribs) 00:03, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

≠== Purpose of this list? == What's the purpose of this list? In the title it says that it's about what vehicles are build in the different countries, but the list is in fact more an inventory of the used types. For instance: the South Korean army indeed has the T-80U, but it's not build in that country. There are many more similar "mistakes". dendirrek (talk) 16:11, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Indeed!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.89.167.244 (talk) 17:06, 9 May 2009 (UTC) 

It should be clarified, but I'm assuming it was meant to be a list of what vehicles have been produced in each country (as most countries have a note to that effect), and have been adding/removing listings appropriately. There are plenty of other places where inventories are available, so if it's just another inventory page, then the page has no reason to exist. - Jonathon A H (talk) 07:51, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Agree

Name-problem.

The correct name for the Swedish KP-bil is Terrängbil m/42.

However, I find that unsuitable as page-name for the English wiki since the letter 'ä' isn't present in the English alphabet and thus used the common name instead.BP OMowe (talk) 12:54, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

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Inaccuracies in the description of Israeli AFV and missing links

• The section on Magach tanks has visual problems, may be a result of missing links or bad formatting.
• Merkava MK4M tank is called MK4 'Trophy', after the Trophy system, and not 'Windbreaker' (which is a literal translation).
• The Namer IFV, Namer CEV and Nemmera ARV are basically different configurations of the same AFV. Also the Nemmera is the nickname of the Namer CEV and not ARV.
• There is a missing link to Eitan AFV Wikipedia page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eitan_AFV)
• The Eitan AFV is not destined to replace the Namer by any means, only the M113. Many of the M113s are and will be further replaced by Namer IFVs.

I hope these mistakes will be fixed. Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Galzi123 (talk • contribs) 16:38, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

General Inconsistency

There is inconsistency here as to whether the AFVs under a nation's heading are those it uses or those it manufactures. Different nations seem to be treated differently in this regard. I favour focusing on manufacture (including nation-specific variants such as the Ukrainian T55AGM), for the sake of elegance if nothing else. Very new to this though, so appreciate there may be some delightful piece of arcane bureaucracy pulling in a different direction. I guess a consensus is needed. Never mind, noticed this has already been addressed above.

Also, there are several vehicles listed which do not have armaments, e.g. engineering vehicles and armoured ambulances. Under the definition given in our own Armoured fighting vehicle article, these ought not to qualify, or else the other article needs to be edited for consistency of terminology across the encyclopedia.

Assuming consensus agrees I am happy to do what work I can, although my knowledge on the topic is very much less than many others'. CasualInterestInManyThings (talk) 22:16, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

Seems like there's no objections...

Therefore as of now I shall, for the sake of consistency across the encyclopedia, attempt to edit this list and elsewhere such that an "armoured fighting vehicle" is classified one with both armour and an armament of some kind. Things that do not count would include armoured ambulances, engineering/recovery vehicles with no armament and unarmed patrol vehicles like the Snatch land rover (which isn't itself on the list but other things like it might be).

If I'm doing something terribly wrong in this approach, I apologise in advance. CasualInterestInManyThings (talk) 11:01, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

Prototype vehicles

In Zimbabwe 2 prototype vehicles are included (the bullet TCV and gazelle FRV). Should these be removed considering no other nation has prototype vehicles included and although the introduction includes used after the second world war they were only used for training or testing. Should they remain in this article? Tea4life (talk) 12:28, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

General Inconsistencies

Under the definition of "modern" in the article "AFVs produced or used after the Second World War," the M24 Chaffee is listed but the M4 Sherman, M36 Jackson, and M26 Pershing aren't, though would be counted as modern. There are a lot of WW2 tank continued to be made or used after the war T-34, IS-2, T-44, IS-3, M3 & M5 Stuart, M8 Greyhound, Churchill, and so on. But under most of the sections it says "AFVs produced in" making the definition at the start of the article irrelevant. Also, South Africa the only one with a "Prototype tanks" tab.

The article differentiates between variants, as long as they were independently produced or upgraded, ex. Egypt & India, but why not list the AFVs that they have? A listing of what AFVs the nation is using wouldn't conflict with the definition presented in the article, and it could be organized into a section with tanks locally produced and tanks imported to the country Irobrna (talk) 05:27, 10 February 2024 (UTC)