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Gift shop girl
editIm not sure if shes in here listed under her propper name if she has one but if not then i think she should be added she appeared in 3 episodes from what i remember so she deserves to be in here —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.106.187.73 (talk) 10:52, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
sunny day?
editwhat about the character sunny? the intern who appearers as frequently as Denise. the one who has a really mousy voice and a ridiculously sunny attitude.Laghing rabt (talk) 20:00, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
Merge of JD and all them
edit- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
- The result of this discussion was no consensus. Discussion has been left untouched for well over four months. No input to arguably side with or against the merger. —DuncanWhat I Do / What I Say 23:31, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
Suggested merge of:
J.D.
Christopher Turk
Carla Espinosa
Elliot Reid
Perry Cox
Bob Kelso
Janitor
None of them make any assertion of notability and use episodes and unreliable sources as references. Their articles are all pure plot and in-universe descriptions. The information within them can be condensed and placed here--GroovySandwich 06:02, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
- I guess no one's against it so I'll start on that soon--GroovySandwich 08:19, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
- Woah there! I just spent 20 minutes looking for these articles that existed only a few weeks ago. The articles were extremely helpful, and mostly well written enough that I saw no reason to view the discussion pages. I'm afraid I'm strongly against this, and glancing the above discussions, there is no consensus for this. Two year old consensus is still consensus. --Zfish118 (talk) 04:18, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
- Just saw Zfish118's reversion, I agree with him. Seems like no consensus to merge, although by BRD, I certainly hold no grudge for the attempt. Dayewalker (talk) 04:55, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
- Woah there! I just spent 20 minutes looking for these articles that existed only a few weeks ago. The articles were extremely helpful, and mostly well written enough that I saw no reason to view the discussion pages. I'm afraid I'm strongly against this, and glancing the above discussions, there is no consensus for this. Two year old consensus is still consensus. --Zfish118 (talk) 04:18, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
Alrighty then, the discussion (the best part!). So the articles have all been sitting in a rather lame state for quite some time and no real effort has been made to clean them up or add relevant references, aside from the episode citations. They all re-state plot points and offer trivial information that really doesn't matter. Cut all that and you're left with small stubs, roughly the same size they'd be on this list--GroovySandwichYum. 06:15, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
- Even so, the series itself is notable, and each individual main character article offered an infobox containing vital information, as well as an illustrative image of the character (now lost due to being orphaned). Merging does not justify losing this information. Cut out the excessive plot information if you must, but the work within consensus-driven framework of an article for each main character. It is easier to supervise changes when the page histories for each character are intact. --Zfish118 (talk) 21:47, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
- The series is notable, but not necessarily the characters. My take on the matter is this: the characters should be put on the list and expanded there; if enough references and out-of-universe information is found, then they should be split into articles. Why leave them as articles barely longer than a list entry? Who knows how long they would stay that way? I'd rather see a well-written entry on a list than a stub with no chances of real expansion. Your whole argument for keeping the articles as they are is that they have infoboxes. Put them on the list if you wish--GroovySandwichYum. 06:50, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
- I personally don't doubt that there are verifiable secondary reliable sources out there for these character articles and that they could be worked up to a standard that meets the WP:GNG. It would be helpful if the proponents of this article could do a little digging and demonstrate here on the talk page that there are sources out there? Maybe start with J.D., since he's the protagonist? — Hunter Kahn 22:06, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
- To Zfish: losing some info is not a rational to keep an article; Wikipedia only has articles that assert notability, not ones that someone might find useful. かんぱい! Scapler (talk) 02:14, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
- Well i'm sure there is some reviews on the characters such as J.D. and possibly Christopher Turk and Perry Cox. But at the moment, i'm looking for some. Don't know the best place to look for reviews or possibly interviews on them.Bread Ninja (talk) 06:52, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
- The series is notable, but not necessarily the characters. My take on the matter is this: the characters should be put on the list and expanded there; if enough references and out-of-universe information is found, then they should be split into articles. Why leave them as articles barely longer than a list entry? Who knows how long they would stay that way? I'd rather see a well-written entry on a list than a stub with no chances of real expansion. Your whole argument for keeping the articles as they are is that they have infoboxes. Put them on the list if you wish--GroovySandwichYum. 06:50, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
- Acknowledging WP:Inherited, my philosophy is more aligned with the essay Wikipedia:Other stuff exists. Perusing other articles, it seems that the majority of TV-shows have individual articles for important characters. Many of these also summarize major plot arcs as they relate to each character. For consistency sake, which has been been my primary motive all along, I believe that each Scrubs character article should be improved in place. Its just confusing for users if long standing articles about characters suddenly disappear. I'm not against removing inappropriate content, mind you, just the merge proposal. --Zfish118 (talk) 14:46, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
- You realize WP:Other stuff exists is bad? not all of them fall under the exact same situation of other characters. This is about having enough citation. If it's about being organized than you don't have to worry about that if they merge. It won't be "confusing" as the dicussion is here. I am in favor of the merge (ulness enough third party sources are found).Bread Ninja (talk) 00:09, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
- I invoke the essay WP:Other stuff exists, as the author shares my opinion that consistent coverage for similar topics is important. It further argues that some president should be accepted, so that arguments like this aren't repeated over and over for every television series. If you disagree with essay (think its "bad"), I recommend taking it up on the discussion page there. --Zfish118 (talk) 06:01, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
- You realize WP:Other stuff exists is bad? not all of them fall under the exact same situation of other characters. This is about having enough citation. If it's about being organized than you don't have to worry about that if they merge. It won't be "confusing" as the dicussion is here. I am in favor of the merge (ulness enough third party sources are found).Bread Ninja (talk) 00:09, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
- Acknowledging WP:Inherited, my philosophy is more aligned with the essay Wikipedia:Other stuff exists. Perusing other articles, it seems that the majority of TV-shows have individual articles for important characters. Many of these also summarize major plot arcs as they relate to each character. For consistency sake, which has been been my primary motive all along, I believe that each Scrubs character article should be improved in place. Its just confusing for users if long standing articles about characters suddenly disappear. I'm not against removing inappropriate content, mind you, just the merge proposal. --Zfish118 (talk) 14:46, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
A quick search found numerous sources for the characters. I've added several for JD), and will add them for the others as well. I've even trimmed some of the unnecessary plot detail in JD and would do the same for the other characters. --Zfish118 (talk) 06:01, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
- Awesome and good work. The addition of reliable sources to those articles that have them is the best outcome of such a discussion. かんぱい! Scapler (talk) 15:42, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
Against Combination of even two characters would increase the size of the articles past WP guidelines for article length, they would be almost immediately split again. Je.rrt (talk) 16:58, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
- You are assuming that all of the information would be merged. About 80% of the content of all these character articles are against Wiki policy. We are not a fan site for recording minutiae. かんぱい! Scapler (talk) 17:11, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
- My merge proposal still stands. A couple sources were added to JD's article and have verified trivial, in-universe character details. That's nice and all but in my opinion he can still be merged with those references intact. And the other characters are still in the same state as before. As Scapler said, this is not the place for the trivial minute details that make up these articles--GroovySandwichYum. 03:38, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
- Each of these needs to be assessed individually on a case-by-case basis. Major characters are more likely to be notable than minor ones (although being a major character doesn't guarantee notability). If a specific character hasn't received significant coverage in reliable sources, then he should be merged into the list. If he has, then he could have a standalone article as well as a place in the list. Since the wholesale merge has been contested, the discussion should be refocused towards specific characters and their notability. ThemFromSpace 03:58, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
Howie?
editHowie is one of the new doctors who appears in season 8. I believe there should be a small section for him. I don't have the skill set for making it, but a section for him should exist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.76.135.81 (talk) 04:25, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
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We Gotta get the Janitor back!
editEverybody, we gotta get the Janitor back to Wikipedia! I was surprised he was removed, and i want him back. So if you Wikipedia users are active, please bring back the Janitor on wikipedia. I really appreciate it, thank you. 2603:7000:7000:12BE:AD95:1F0:7096:329F (talk) 00:11, 17 September 2023 (UTC)