Talk:List of equipment of the Australian Army

M4

I've heard that the newer units of the Army are getting M4's instead of the F-88's. Maybe someone who knows for certain could edit this in? Bongomanrae 04:33, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

I believe that only 4 RAR, the SASR and 1 Commando Regiment use the M4. The Army is still investing in the F-88 and it is being used by the units currently in Iraq. I don't believe that the Army intends to replace the weapon in the near future (though it is looked at ways to extend the F-88 rifles lives). --Nick Dowling 04:45, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Okay then. I heard this from an AF Officer but maybe I just misunderstood him. Bongomanrae 18:24, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Mmm can't remember specifically what I've heard about this though I know it isn't for general usage and might only be a try out or similar. The army is still very set on the F88s (and why wouldn't they be!) and this can be seen in the upgrade of the training systems for them and the creation of a new one. -- eps 16:18, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Does anyone have an idea about the statistic of being chosen for specialised areas of the Infantry (eg. Sniper, Machine Gunner, Mortar Plat. etc)?

No. I do know that being chosen for specialised areas comes down to ability and purely if there is an opening. -- eps 16:19, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

In the article MG3, it mentions that the Auzzie use the MG3, but I cant find any thihg in this article relating to that. Eevo 22:54, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

The MG3 is used on the Leopard AS1 as the coaxial MG and on air defence mountings. It will most likely phase out with the AS1.

As for the Tigers and their intended usage I was under the impression that they were to also supliment the Blackhawks not just replace the Kiowas. Given that a bunch of the blackhawks are being sold in the near future/have been (haven't been following). -- eps 16:22, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

The Tiger is an armed recon helicopter and not a transport, it is capable of supporting airmobile operations and thus could be used in support of utility and medium lift helicopter operations. It is true that Blackhawks do conduct recon on some low level or peace support missions but this is a secondary task and largely due to the small number of aircraft deployed. It is unlikely that the Tiger would deploy on these operations unless escalation was anticipated.

Also I'm suprised that no one has mentioned the term "hearts and bunnies" in reference to the DPCU? :P -- eps 1624, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

The current in use pistol is not a glock 17, it is a browning 9mm,see reference in the article of Pte Kovko, the ADF has never used glocks.

Ah, Fast Jet pilots use them (some say purely for the wank factor), as do a few SF units of they feel like it. They also use a USP .40. The wider Army is general use the 9mm Browning, no doubt there.

Does anyone know the final physical fitness requirements needed to get into the SASR (ie. pushups, situps, runs etc) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.223.71.184 (talk) 02:42, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

5.56 × 45 mm NATO

The AuSteyr and variants do not use the 5.56 × 45 mm NATO round but a modified 5.56 × 45 mm round. My sources are my family being in the ADF. I can't find any written sources on the net. Dewy94 (talk) 02:36, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Indeed you are right, but do you know any sources that can also be added to the article to back this up? Wiki users (rightly) are pretty pedantic when it comes to sources. Cheers. Anotherclown (talk) 14:08, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

The ADF use the SS109 round, the same as nearly ever other NATO country. The US are using a new round though and ADF personnel are not supposed to use unless it's an emergency. I assume you're mixing them up — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.239.251.88 (talk) 12:08, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Not sure thats completely accurate. AFAIK SS109 is primarily only used on operations. Anotherclown (talk) 13:21, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Australian small arms ammo is manufactured by Australian Munitions a subsidiary of Thales (previously ADI). They manufacture 3 types of "regular" 5.56 ammunition; the F1, F1A1, and the F193. The F1, and F1A1 are comparable to, and the same design as NATO SS109/M855 rounds, and are rated to be used in all NATO 5.56 rifles. The F193 is a specific ammunition manufactured for use in Australia's M4 platforms (SF).

The regular F1 you will see most commonly used in live fire training, and prior to the introduction of the F1A1, the F1 was used on operations, they are equivalent to SS109. "The projectile of the 5.56mm F1 ball Cartridge consists of a hardened steel penetrator and lead core enclosed in a gilding metal jackets (SS109 style)." F1 KarmaKangaroo (talk) 02:40, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

You are getting confused "5.56x45mm" refers to all of them. The "NATO" refers to the fact that 5.56x45mm is the "standard" round used by NATO along with others. NATO uses many different 5.56x45mm rounds even within the same country. "modified" doesnt mean anything all military rounds all 5.56s in NATO are "modified" its meaningless. The USA rounds typically being "hotter" faster rounds due to mor e powder usually. This off course causes more wear and heat build up which has caused problems in the hot areas.--Thelawlollol (talk) 08:17, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

It should also be noted that Australia does not license build the Steyr rifle They bought the design outright. They can do what ever they like with it. Hence the EFF888/F90 is substantially different to the “official” Austrian Steyr rifle. 144.139.103.173 (talk) 12:06, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

Helmet

Has the new Enchanced Combat Helmet gone Army/ADF-wide? Some links for someone to write up: Rabintex and New helmet into service. I've just improved the grammar and presentation of Combat Uniform.- Htra0497 04:41, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Shotgun?

When it says the Remington 870, is there a particular model used, or does it vary? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.107.188.76 (talk) 08:35, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

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Ah the thing you referenced says it can be used, NO OTHER justification REQUIRED!--Thelawlollol (talk) 08:19, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

New Armoured Vehicle

Does anyone know details on the "Narys" being deployed with the SAS currently? http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24918566-662,00.html --Frmby988 (talk) 02:31, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

That's about all that's known about the vehicles. There was a report a few weeks ago (in the Australian, I think) which was much more negative about the Narys than that story though - from memory, the story stated that it had proven impossible to fit them with 40mm grenade launchers and anti-tank guided missile launchers. Nick-D (talk) 07:40, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

I was told they are Jackals Dewy94 (talk) 07:52, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Future Equiptment

The Infatry Weapons bit is all out of date and wrong. The F88 is curently being upgraded. http://www.thalesgroup.com/australia/Press-Room/Press-Release-search-all/Press-Release-search-result/Press-Release-Article.html?link=2d400a4e-4b69-552d-1710-483e650a403e:central&locale=EN-gb&Title=Thales+upgrades+Austeyr+rifle+to+meet+ADF+operational+needs&dis=1 --Frmby988 (talk) 03:07, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Hmm... yes you would appear to be right, this will need to be amended. I actually hadn't really paid much attention to that section until you brought it up. Good pick up. Anyone feel up to making these changes? Anotherclown (talk) 05:56, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

The F2 Mortar

I think this should be under artillery weapons instead of infantry. Not sure if infantry soldiers are trained on the mortar.Lokster (talk) 03:34, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

In fact, traditionally mortars have been used by specialist platoons in Australian infantry battalions (and operated by specially trained infantrymen). Recently a number of Reserve artillery units have converted to mortars but this is more to do with cost cutting and the diminishing resources available to the part-time army than anything else. Anotherclown (talk) 09:54, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification! Lokster (talk) 05:17, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

As stated above, Mortars (the 81 and 60mm) are infantry weapons. Used by Mortar platoons within some of the RARs KarmaKangaroo (talk) 03:02, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

M14s

Ok, I've seen images of an SAS patrol carring US— M14 EBR's though there is another image of VC winner Ben Roberts-Smith carring one (Cannot find on Google but is on my computer). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.184.77.37 (talk) 11:02, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

M107 or M82 Barrett

There are a few pics floating round on the net of guys with Aussie flags on them using M82 or M107 Barrett rifles, would that count as a reasonable source for addition to the list? 182.239.251.88 (talk) 12:05, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Also wheres the 50 and 388 call sniper rifles? machine guns? rocket? --Thelawlollol (talk) 08:21, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

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Unimog

In the main article, there is some talk about Unimog. There is nothing here. I think there should be some consistency.49.178.162.101 (talk) 15:50, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

Leopard

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