Talk:List of countries by energy consumption and production

European Union

Where is the figure for the EU  ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.53.5.178 (talk) 05:09, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

• The EU is not a country. Drmies (talk) 05:15, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

This has been discussed before, and if anyone have EU as a sources, they are free to add it. 88.89.42.129 (talk) 19:50, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Please provide a year-date for these data

It would also be very helpful to be able to show columns for the various forms of primary energy being produced or consumed. Thank you.Coloradophysicist (talk) 23:04, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Units

I think this page could be improved in many ways

The first way is converting to SI units. This the only wikipedia article I've ever seen in which a non-SI unit is not only the default, it's the only data displayed.

The reason I'm opening this discussion as opposed to fixing that myself is because there is a bigger problem with the units - They are incorrect. This should be a table of energy per unit time, not just of energy. I am unsure if these BTU figures are actually the total energy production of this country in its entire history, in which case BTU would be the correct non-SI unit, or if this is its annual, monthly, wekkly, daily production figures in which case it needs to be converted to BTU/time period, watts, or joules/time period

If someone could convert the btu/unknown time period into either (giga?)Watts, or (mega?)joules/year then that would be awesome :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.203.114.138 (talk) 06:06, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

I agree. It appears that the unit should be BTU per year (although I haven't checked all the figures, just a small sample of countries- I presume they're all to the same unit at the moment). It's not clear which year though, from looking at the source. I'll edit to say per year, for now.--Physics is all gnomes (talk) 21:02, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Completely agree. It should be in (exa?)joules per year or some other SI standard. Even though the Anglophone world includes two out of the three remaining countries that have yet to adopt a metric system, I think it's fair to say that most people outside of the United States and Liberia would find this article as confusing as I do, for the simple reason of the units being used being unfamiliar. Jamutaq (talk) 19:59, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

And I also agree. The quantity is power, and the SI unit for that is W. That is someting people can relate to, because the power consumption of household appliances, cars and power stations is given in W (or kW, MW or even GW for nuclear power).
Another problem is that the word quadrillion is ambiguous. To most Europeans that means 10²⁴, but here it is 10¹⁵.
I already corrected the header and added the conversion factor to W. Well, rounded, it really is 33.43338102 GW.
Is there an easy way to add a column for W, with a conversion factor, the way it works with a spread sheet? DirkvdM (talk) 13:50, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

I agree with SI units, but disagree with power (as opposed to energy) conversions. The table reports the energy production of consumption during a specific year (reported in the table heading). Reporting instead the average power is confusing and misleading, since instant power consumption can be very variable during the year. It is also not used by any major publication, so it may even be considered original research. In summary, I propose to change the units to terawatt-hour (TWh), which is the standard unit used by most reliable sources and elsewhere in Wikipedia to refer to country level energy production/consumption, and exajoule, which is the SI standard. --Ita140188 (talk) 09:56, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

That the power consumption varies over a year is something I thought about too and it is a valid point. But the numbers in the table really are power values (energy (BTU) per time (year)), so I was confused about what they were, and only after converting one value for which I knew the actual value in W did I know what the numbers were.

This should be clarified in some way. So maybe not use 'BTU/yr' in the header, but 'BTU in that specific year'? DirkvdM (talk) 14:33, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

add net consumption / net generation column

It would be useful (and not too difficult) to add a column that shows net generation minus net consumption, i.e. the amount of energy that is exported or imported. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rdpoor (talk • contribs) 22:04, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Could not verify the data

I could not find matching data in EIA site. example value at EIA site, USA TPE consumption 100578.4/2008, 102514.6/2007,100477.4/2006, 101044/2005 100977.2/2004. I look at several other countries and non of them match. need correction.--Masaqui (talk) 05:03, 7 June 2011 (UTC)