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Apples and oranges

This list is now comparing apples and oranges, i.e. magazine sales (weekly readers * 52 * years) vs. actual books (tankobon, BD, ...). E.g. Weekly Shōnen Jump or The Beano is not a comic series, it is a comics magazine, and should not be compared to e.g. Asterix or Dragon Ball (and the note about the "total circulation" of e.g. Dragonball should also be removed, or else we could add the "total circulation" of Peanuts, 50 years * 300 days * 2000 newspapers worldwide * X readers = what, 300 billion if you take an average of 10,000 readers per newspaper?

As it stands, the list is very confusing for readers, with unclear inclusion criteria. Either the removal of all magazines, or the division of the list into two sections, "books" and "magazines", should be made. This may cause problems for American comics though, which are kind of dedicated magazines (one-character magazines), so perhaps a third list for those? Fram (talk) 11:15, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Agreed. The magazines should be moved to a separate list or article. Moving the American comics to a separate list makes sense too. If we do that, it would probably be best to include other figures that are (mostly) for one-character magazines like Diabolik to that list as well. Cheechako (talk) 11:30, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

I somewhat agree that the comic magazines could be in a separate list from the individual comic series, which is something I had been considering for a while. Another separate list for American floppy comics also sounds like a good idea. But I disagree about the footnotes. The difference between, say, Dragon Ball and Peanuts, is that Peanuts was originally comic strips published in non-comic publications (newspapers), whereas Dragon Ball was comic/manga chapters originally serialized in an actual comic publication (a manga magazine), so a footnote mentioning the latter's circulation in a comic magazine is relevant. Maestro2016 (talk) 00:45, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

I've now created three separate lists for the three different types of comic publications, as suggested above. However, while it was easy to categorize certain comics (e.g. most Japanese manga and American superhero comics), there are some comic series which I'm unsure about and might need some input on regarding which category they fall under. Maestro2016 (talk) 02:06, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Looks good to me, great work! I only moved Garfield to the list of "Collected book volumes", because Garfield comic books are not periodical comics, but usually books that bundle newspaper strips, comparable to Peanuts, which is also in the "Collected book volumes" list. As for the floppy comic issues, I added a sentence about that comparable publications from other countries (such as Phantom and Diabolik), that are not in the American comics book format, are also included. I was wondering if there is a term that covers both American "floppy" comics and other single character periodicals from other countries. If so, we could rename the section accordingly. Cheechako (talk) 17:58, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

I've renamed the section to "periodical floppy comic issues" for now. I can't quite think of a better name at the moment. Maestro2016 (talk) 01:28, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

I feel like Dragon Ball Supers numbers shouldn't be included in Dragon Balls section. It's a sequel series 20+ years later.★Trekker (talk) 12:13, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Most of the other comic series listed in the article include sequels and spin-offs (including ones that came decades later) in their sales figures. Same goes for Dragon Ball. Maestro2016 (talk) 15:31, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

That's bad. There not single series in any shape then.★Trekker (talk) 16:31, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

That's how comic book series are usually categorised. They're usually grouped based on a certain universe, character, or set of characters, rather than a single continuous story. Maestro2016 (talk) 16:38, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

Well story isn't the same as publication. Do we even know how the people are counting this? Which series of a character do they exclude, which don't they?★Trekker (talk) 17:05, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

I don't see the issue. If we were to break down, for example, all the Superman, Batman and Spider-Man comics into individual series, the list would just become a mess. I think the list is fine the way it is. Maestro2016 (talk) 02:15, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

The issue for me is that we don't know how these sources are counting this. Do all of the sources count all of the series for each character? What about team-up titles? Do they count collected issues too? How are different sources meassuring this? Can they even really be compared?★Trekker (talk) 13:08, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

In the case of superhero comics, I would assume that the sources are including all of the comics that star a certain superhero character or superhero team in a leading role. And yes, not all comic sales can be directly compared, hence why the article has three separate lists for three different types of comic publication formats. Maestro2016 (talk) 07:59, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

But even between characters this seems very doubtful.★Trekker (talk) 13:30, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

Tintin : 250 million now

Can we change the ranking? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:A03F:50C5:4A00:1C51:A0A:B10A:6269 (talk) 21:31, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

Dubious numbers in the single-issue floppy comics section.

I'm putting this here rather than doing the edit myself due to not knowing how to properly format the citations.

Spiderman should be at 909 million according to the existing citations.

X-men sales from 1963-2014 770 million

2015: 1,984,679 based on

2016: 2,757,495 based on

2017: 3,801,671 based on

2018: 4,315,701 based on

2019: 4,450,897 based on

So the total figure should be at 287 million

Superman sales from 1938-2014 500 million

References

Comichron is a source but not all-inclusive. Maybe good for its limited West Coast distribution.2601:182:C80:3E10:14E7:EA0F:40B0:FEAC (talk) 02:54, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Single issues and individual titles

Does anybody have reliable numbers for individual issues/titles..? X-Men #1, Death of Superman, Spawn #1; Arkham Asylum, Watchmen, DKR, etc.? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:304:ABCA:7629:447E:E5A0:D05D:5801 (talk) 23:02, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

X-Men #1 sold more than 9 million Hari071999 (talk) 10:01, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Star Wars #1(2015) sold more than 1.2 million copies Hari071999 (talk) 18:21, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

https://www.comichron.com/faq/alltimebestsellingcomicbook.html Hari071999 (talk) 07:54, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

How about Mainland Chinese ManHua/DongHua informations?

Are Chinese comics also considered? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.224.130.123 (talk) 07:37, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Updation of new records also where best selling comic books list

Best selling comic book list is deleted from here Can somebody add it again Thank you! 2405:201:600F:C80D:C553:3C92:F0A8:C625 (talk) 08:45, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

Figures

Those spiderman and X-men sales look sketchy and don’t provide a clear source 100.14.12.203 (talk) 06:43, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Single issues

There was a list for best selling single issue comic book buy some user deleted it When someone ask for best selling comic book it means best selling issue of a comic book Can somebody add it back with reliable sources Hari071999 (talk) 07:56, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

I'm not sure why you're jumping that logical gap. While single issues might have some interest, the biggest selling issues are almost all around 30 years old. What has been the most popular title of the last 10, 20, 30, ... , 80 years or more? That is more interesting as it considers the total population of comic books sold in the era, which, currently, we are literally and figuratively in no Golden Age...2601:182:C80:3E10:14E7:EA0F:40B0:FEAC (talk) 02:51, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Spider-Man

They usually say that Spider-Man sold 360 million copies (although this is out of date by a few years, this number has been spoken since 2016, so it must be out of date). But now I ask myself, how did it go from 360 million copies to 909 million copies? A difference of 549 million — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carambolax (talk • contribs) 20:09, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

The 900 million figure was a made-up number added by an anonymous IP editor. I've now reverted it back to the original number. Maestro2016 (talk) 02:52, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Was changed back to 909m again. Same with X-Men's fake total sales to 2015 number as well Mommid (talk) 12:41, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Someone did it again. its the same dude everytime. Says Spider-Man should be at 909m according to existing citations, yet provides no citations 189.60.102.71 (talk) 03:52, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Single issue comic books

Best selling Single issue comic book sales by issues were deleted by anonymous user on the wiki Can somebody add it back with reliable sources

In 1991, X-Men #1 sold an estimated 8,186,500 copies, making it a likely contender for the best-selling single-issue comic book in history. And yes, that wiggle room matters. When it comes to determining the exact rundown of the best-selling comics of all time, the data is murky. Hari071999 (talk) 23:16, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

There is not enough reliable data for that, sadly. Take for example Demon Slayer that has sold 150 million volumes (the total number of volumes being 23) with the average sales of a volume being just over 6.5 million. It is possible that some specific volumes have sold even more than that. Luka316 (talk) 11:05, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Maga

Should maga count they have own page (see List of best-selling manga) it there any point stating the same information again Fan Of Lion King 🦁 (talk) 18:57, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

superman in collected comic book volume

superman it in the top of the collected comicbook section and there is no source it 600 million trades while there is source for 600 millions floppies.

shouldn't it be removed ? 78.196.19.247 (talk) 11:27, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

It has been fixed now. Thank you for spotting the error. Luka316 (talk) 13:45, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Dragon & Tiger Heroes (Oriental Heroes)

The entry of ˝Dragon & Tiger Heroes (Oriental Heroes)˝ is not supported by any reliable data. The number of volumes and total volume sales should be checked. Luka316 (talk) 10:59, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

The same goes for Peanuts. Luka316 (talk) 12:07, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

One Piece, Periodical single-issue floppy comics

Why is One Piece in the Periodical single-issue floppy comics section? And also with a number that does not even have a source? 187.250.222.176 (talk) 00:06, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

You are correct. It will be changed. Luka316 (talk) 11:58, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

Yet One Piece is still there. No source for the made-up number, the manga still isn´t a single-issue release and other bestselling manga aren´t on the list either. I noticed this due to a wiki screenshot blowing up on social media yesterday so I deleted it again. An editorial note needs to be set if the manga keeps showing up there again. 77.64.255.168 (talk) 11:14, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

Dragon Ball - New number of volumes

I came across many articles with a new number of volumes sold for Dragon Ball being 300 million. For this reason I will update the total number of volumes sold to 300 million.

Here are the articles:

https://comicbook.com/anime/news/dragon-ball-super-manga-sales-record/

https://twitter.com/WSJ_manga/status/1425028721887612929

https://booksofbrilliance.com/2023/01/25/the-best-selling-manga-of-all-time/

Additionally, I would like to say, that the total number of sold volumes for Peanuts and especially Dragon & Tiger Heroes (Oriental Heroes) needs at least in some way a reliable citation. The current citations do not say anything about the total volumes sold.

Luka316 (talk) 08:20, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Alphabetical order

I have rearranged the order of comics with the same number of volumes sold to alphabetical order. Luka316 (talk) 08:36, 12 December 2023 (UTC)