Talk:List of Sites of Special Scientific Interest in Avon

FLC issues

The two main issues that prevented this list reaching FL status are outlined below. I suggest we continue a discussion on this here.

• that areas are only given in hectares, whereas other units needed to be given - I could not quite determine the precise requirement from the FLC discussion, so have asked User:Rmhermen, who I think understand the issue well, to summarise here what is needed.
• that the method of referencing used is not appropriate for a FL. We either need to find a single reference which we can use, or refer to all the separate citation sheets. Any thoughts?

SP-KP 12:37, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

I went through the featured articles and actually was surprised to see a number of them without "customary" units. However those that do follow several different methods.

1. The simplest is like List of largest suspension bridges with the units in parentheses after the metric.
2. Another method is using a "divided column" with subheadings for metric and customary units as seen in List of tallest buildings and structures in Paris and List of U.S. states by elevation.
3. Another method uses two columns, one for each unit as seen in List of Canadian provinces and territories by area and List of United States national parks by state (this one not a featured list but still a nice one.)

Hope this helps. I like the last method least and I would suggest that the first method would be good for these sorts of lists. Rmhermen 16:37, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

I added the acres for the first section in style 2 (sorry didnt see Rmherman's comment until I had hit save!). Personally I don't mind which fomat is used. I also added a references section with links to the citation sheets for A-B SSSIs. I am not convinced that this is the best method as it makes the refences section huge, however the citatation sheets have data we use not covered by this.

More thoughts

Good work Suicidalhamster, on this page and the South Yorks page. I like the map link on the South Yorks page and think we should add that here too. Also the EN ref is, I think, better than Renata's suggestion of a single link, even if it does create a huge refs list - as you say, we need to say where we got all the information, not just some of it. I feel that the areas columns should be right-justified, not centred, as that makes it easier to compare sizes, especially if we standardise on 1 decimal place. For the same reason I would support splitting the two areas into separate columns rather than including them both in one. SP-KP 18:25, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Good point about the right justified, hadn't thought about that and two columns sounds fine. I also like the map link so will plan to add it now on! Suicidalhamster 18:43, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Severn Estuary / Bristol Channel

The Severn Estuary redirects to Bristol Channel (I noticed this wen adding the Template:SSSIs Avon geological to the sites listed) which doesn't include anything on the SSSI. Should we have a seperate Severn Estuary SSSI or similar, or add the SSSI info to the Bristol Channel article? — Rod ^talk 20:52, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Separate Severn Estuary article, definitely. The Channel starts where the estuary ends, they're not the same thing at all. I was planning to write one myself eventually, but feel free to beat me to it! SP-KP 21:05, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

I agree, in this instance that a seperate article would make sense (possibly related to the River Severn article in someway?). However i'm not sure that all SSSIs deserve or require their own article. I've been thinking about merging Aust Cliff and Aust for a while; does this sound sensible? - Suicidalhamster 21:54, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Better to expand both Aust Cliff and Aust, I think. If a site is an SSSI, there really ought to be enough published info out there to be able to make a full article out of it. Take a look at Windsor Hill Marsh, for example, which IMO shows that its possible (well, for biological sites, at least). SP-KP 22:09, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

OK I agree that SSSIs do have enough info to be stand alone articles as Windsor hill shows. However I suppose my query is whether its best to create stubs first or make a section in another article (if a suitable one exists) and then 'break out' the SSSI info when enough has been added. - Suicidalhamster 01:05, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm not going to be doing an article for Severn Estuary in the near future (weeks) - I just wanted to flag up the issue. — Rod ^talk 16:24, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Converting OSGB36 (OS grid refs) to coords on this list and others

I have started a discussion about converting the OSGB36 (OS grid refs) on this list and others to use Template:Coord, as I think this offers advantages for users worldwide (who may be unfamiliar with the OS system) and the use of Template:GeoGroupTemplate to enable mapping on googlemaps etc. I have been told that a bot could be tasked to do this, however this would be quite a significant change and would not want to do it without consensus. If anyone has any comments could they join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geographical coordinates#Automagically converting OSGB36 to coord?.— Rod ^talk 16:13, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

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