Talk:List of Ottoman titles and appellations

Latest comment: 7 years ago by Retrieverlove in topic Change of titles

Khan edit

It reads:The sovereigns main titles were Han, (Great) Sultan and Padishah, of Arabic viz. Persian origin. Well this is not exactly true. Han (khan) is a Turkic title. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 05:39, 13 September 2011 (UTC)Reply

I didn't write any of that.--LK (talk) 14:37, 17 September 2011 (UTC)Reply
Apparently Khan is originally a Tartar title[1] which the Ottomans added to their other titles. It then went on to the Moguls as well, who also considered it a relevant title, with Gengis Khan's grandson Hulaku being the first Mogul king of Persia[2]... Looks like the entire business warrants further investigation, yes?-- KDS4444Talk 01:37, 20 September 2011 (UTC)Reply
  1. ^ http://books.google.com/books?id=1MYRAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA376&dq=ottoman+titles&hl=en&ei=4Ol3TrfmH-fTiAKN5o3eCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=11&ved=0CGYQ6AEwCg#v=onepage&q=khan&f=false {{citation}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)
  2. ^ http://books.google.com/books?id=Xs5LAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA98&dq=ottoman+titles+khan&hl=en&ei=9-t3ToiNO-rgiAK_6_HdCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7&ved=0CEkQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=khan&f=false {{citation}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)
  • Khan was a title used in Central Asia by both the Turks and the Mongols. So Ottomans (as well as Hulagu) already had the title in their list of appellations. (By the way, there was no people named Tartar. The original name is Tatar and it was used for Turkic (sonetimes Turco Mongolic) people of the east Europe.) Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 14:53, 20 September 2011 (UTC)Reply

Change of titles edit

The titles like Hatun, Hanım and Kadın should be changed to Khatun, Khanum and Qadin for every Wikipedia Ottoman Women articles. Like these, the titles of every person who had belonged to the Ottoman History should be translated according to their English equivalents like what has been done in the articles related to the Seljuk Empire. Retrieverlove (talk) 07:51, 25 July 2016 (UTC)Reply