Talk:List of Muslim-majority countries

Type of Government

First, is there some rule against listing many of these nations as dictatorships? Or listing more of these nations as "Authoritarian Republic" like Syria. I don't see a big difference between the rule in Syria, the rule in Turkmenistan, and the rule in Chad?

See freedomhouse's map at http://www.freedomhouse.org/template.cfm?page=363&year=2011 Kitplane01 (talk) 07:07, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Palestinian Territories and Western Sahara

What about these countries? They are listed in [List of countries by Muslim population]. 71.205.35.148 (talk) 00:25, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Numbering

There are only 47 countries on the list yet the numbers go down to 48.

Lebanon is listed as 36 and the next country, Kuwait - is listed as 38.

United Arab Emirates

Please visit my earlier discussion for Muslim population in United Arab Emirates as of 2006 and 2007 here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Islam_by_country#Muslims_in_UAE

Angelo De La Paz (talk) 18:43, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

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New report from the International Religious Freedom Report from the US Department of State of 2007:

Section I. Religious Demography

The country has an area of 32,300 square miles and a permanent resident population of 4.1 million, with 78.1 percent of the country's population being noncitizens, according to the 2005 census. Of the citizens, 85 percent are Sunni Muslim and 15 percent are Shi'a. Foreigners are predominantly from South and Southeast Asia, although there are substantial numbers from the Middle East, Europe, Central Asia, the former Commonwealth of Independent States, and North America. According to a ministry report, which collected census data, 76 percent of the total population is Muslim, 9 percent is Christian, and 15 percent is "other." Unofficial figures estimate that at least 15 percent of the population is Hindu, 5 percent is Buddhist, and 5 percent belong to other religious groups, including Parsi, Bahá'í, and Sikh. These estimates differ from census figures because census figures do not count "temporary" visitors and workers, and Bahá'ís and Druze are counted as Muslim. Moshino31 (talk) 13:02, 20 February 2008 (UTC) Source = http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2007/90223.htm

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Zanzibar?

Why is Zanzibar listed as a separate country? It is part of Tanzania. That's what the name Tanzania is meant to convey: the United Republic of Tanganyika and Zanzibar. --169.230.94.28 (talk) 19:43, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Estimated Saudi Arabia calculation from States report Foreign population

Hi there well here is an estimate of which I have worked out for Saudi Arabia (counting non-Muslims): Total population: 24 Million,, Indian Population: 1.4 million; estimated 1 million Hindus ok, Filipinos 800,000 (christian 90% = 720,000) 150,000 Lebanese - estimated 20,000 Christians, 130,000 Sri Lankans (Buddhists), 40,000 Eritreans, 15,000 Christians estimated and 30,000 Americans. Add them all up = 1,000,000 + 720,000 + 20,000 + 130,000 + 15,000 + 30,000 = 1,915,000 < Total non-Muslim population, so 1,915,000 divide by 24,000,000 (Saudi total) = 0.079... < times by 100 will give non-Muslim percent = 7.979... (8%) so 100% - 8% = 92% which is an estimate from the calculations from foreign population. All Saudi Arabians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis are vertualy Muslims I believe. Laters. Thanks for hearing, if no help ask back!!! Moshino31 (talk) 20:05, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Where is the sources of your estimates, Moshino? I will revert to the last version by me because it's based on 2 newest sources from CIA! Angelo De La Paz (talk) 08:04, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Well it is from the same source that you have provided which is from the US State of Department but an older version from 2004, so with the new source it says.... 26.7 Million < Total population. So we work out the foreign population excluding Pakistan, Bangladesh, Egyptians and the Palestinians (Muslim majorities). 1 Million Hindus from India estimated, Lebanon estimated Christian > 20,000, 130,000 Buddhists from Sri Lanka, 10,000 Christians estimated from Eritrea and 25,000 Christians or Athiests from the United States, so next we add them all up = 1 Million + 20,000 + 130,000 + 10,000 + 25,000 = 1,185,000... Next we get that foreign non Muslim population so, 1,185,000 divide by Saudi population 26,700,000 = 0.044... X 100 will give you the percent = 4.43... basically 4%, so 100%-4%= 96% so there you have it then, there is an increase. Hope it helped!

Non Muslims in Saudi Arabia as of 2007

I disagree with you about non-Muslim populations in Saudi Arabia because you must remember the numbers of foreign workers here are growing. So I will revert it for these reasons:

All non-Islamic religions are prohibited in Saudi Arabia but in more than 27 million, including an estimated foreign population of more than 8 million. The foreign population reportedly includes 1.5 million Indians, 1.5 million Bangladeshis, 1.2 million Filipinos, 1 million Pakistanis, 1 million Egyptians, 600,000 Indonesians, 400,000 Sri Lankans, 350,000 Nepalese, 250,000 Palestinians, 150,000 Lebanese, 100,000 Eritreans, and 30,000 Americans (Source: [1]).That means:

• Christianity: 4.5% or over 1.2 million Christians (Predominant of about 90% of 1.2 million Filipinos, thousands of Americans and Europeans).Read more in Christianity in Saudi Arabia
• Hinduism: 4.5% (maybe larger) or over 1.2 million Hindus (Predominant of about 80% of 1.5 million Indians and 350 thousand Nepalese).Read more in Hinduism in Arab states
• Buddhism: 1.5% or over 400 thousand Buddhists (93% of 400 thousand Sinhalese people from Sri Lanka; remainders are from East Asian countries as China, Vietnam, Thailand, etc...).Read more in Buddhism in Middle East
• Others as Sikhs, Baha'is, Jews, etc...all is common as 0.5%

• Total non-Muslim percentage: 4.5 + 4.5 + 1.5 + 0.5 = 11%

Overall Muslim numbers is including native Saudi Muslims and foreign Muslims (from Pakistan, Bangladesh, Egypt, Indonesia, etc...) is only 89% as maximum and it's 100% with 22 million native Saudi Arabian citizens.It means the numbers of Muslims is from over 22 million (100% of Saudi Arabia's citizens only) to 24.5 million (including foreign Muslims and citizens).

• And here is the simple calculation for the overall Muslim percenatge in Saudi Arabia as of 2007 (total population: 27,601,038 and its 1% is 276,010.38 and its currently Muslim population is 24,564,924):

24,564,924 : 276,010.38 = 89%

Angelo De La Paz (talk) 14:30, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

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Sorry, I have forgotten to add the Filipinos to those numbers (90% Christian) so, if you add it to the previous calculation I have made, it will be 2,265,000 divide by 26,700,000 = 0.0848.... X by 100 = 8.48... < round that up gives you 9%, so 100% - 9% = 91% < Muslim Population Moshino31 (talk) 15:31, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Now, I could say...AGREE with you but how about the numbers of Buddhists from Sri Lanka, South-East or East Asian countries (from 130 thousand in 2006 to 400 thousand in 2007) and other religious populations as Sikhs, Baha'is, Jews and it many includes Atheists from India and Western?

Keep your good contributions! Thank you! Angelo De La Paz (talk) 17:25, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

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Oh yes I have forgotten about the 400,000 Sri Lankans I have counted the previous data, so I have worked out 130,000 of them 400,000 real figure, so 400,000 - 130,000 = 270,000. Add that to the previous foreign population which will give me... 2,535,000. Lets go round again, 2,535,000 divide by 26,700,000 = 0.0949... X 100 = 9.49.. = 9.5%, 100% - 9.5% = 90.5% Moshino31 (talk) 17:48, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

"All non-Islamic religions are prohibited in Saudi Arabia" what books have you been reading, Salman Rushdie's? --Hamster X (talk) 13:41, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

One reliable source

For the percentage or population column only one reliable source will be needed for the table to meet Wikipedia standards. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moshino31 (talk • Moshino31 (talk) 12:24, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Non-Muslims in Kuwait

According to the International Religious Freedom Report 2007 [2]. There are non-Muslim numbers:

• Christians: 400 thousand (all sects)
• Hindus: 300 thousand
• Buddhists: 100 thousand
• Sikhs: 10 thousand
• Baha'is: 400
• Total: 810,400

Total population of Kuwait: 3.2 million (its 1% is 32,000)

Non-Muslim percentage: 810,000 : 32,000 = 25,3%

Angelo De La Paz (talk) 16:30, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Better links

Could you make the country links to point to "Islam in..." instead of the main country page? --Error (talk) 15:50, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Missing countries

Is there some reason why Albania and Kyrgyzstan are missing from the table? Johncoz (talk) 19:37, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

-> Although i have no idea why my beloved country, Albania is not there (the map shows it and i know we have muslims as majority), i might give an idea, we Albanians love rakia more than religion. Alcohol is forbidden in Islam, and since we drink it a lot, wonder if we can be called muslims at all, since we are sinners 24/7. We drink a shot (double for most of the people) of rakia in the morning with the coffee everyday, to give strength. Now that i mentioned our way of life, wonder what criteria can be used what religion majority has Albania.

Bottom Note is that albeit the fact that we have no religion as our national pride (a typical albanian pretends to belong to a religion, just because it's ancestors were part of that religion), we are still fingered as one of the few countries in the world with a muslim majority. By Islamic laws we can't be, since we drink and curse and do a lot of "sins" everyday that no prayer can forgive. Anyway, whatever. We drink and we love to drink, that is most important. And WE ARE ALBANIANS, not muslims, not christians, not jews not nothing, but ALBANIANS. LiveGo 13:11, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

"Islam and state" classification

The classification goes immediately from "State religion" to "Secular state", while many Muslim-majority countries are somewhere in between. For example, Jordan is listed as a secular state, but Jordan's legal system is partially based on Islamic law, with Sharia courts recognized by the constitution.  --Lambiam 12:00, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Image:Muslim_world.png

The map has Bosnia listed as a country with a large number of muslims AND a majority muslim population. However, source aplenty say muslims are large but not a majority. The wikipedia article itself questions this at Bosnia and Herzegovina. See the Demographics of Bosnia and Herzegovina page. Or https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/bk.html Someone ought to change the map as it is wrong, and deceptive. Lihaas (talk) 22:04, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

The Bosnians are the majority of whom are Muslims, the religious data varies because of the high population of Serbs and Croats in the country. Tangomaan (talk) 18:20, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Right here on wikipedia that is proven wrong (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Bosnia_and_Herzegovina#Religions). Muslims are not a majority. Nor is bosnia a part of the oic (only an observer)

One has to find a source that shows muslims as a majorityLihaas (talk) 09:34, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

• This is my idea to solve this problems. I think you should revert back to your early version of this map, Moshin which I think it was better. Because some countries have equal percentage of Christian/Muslim such as: Bosnia & Herzegovina, Ethiopia, Kazakhstan, Nigeria, Tanzania must be use a different colour as "plurality" between Christians (included Catholics, Protestants, etc) and Muslims. I think it's the best way to solve this problem.

Angelo De La Paz (talk) 09:56, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

OK then, please can you not edit the Muslim world map, It shows countries which are *Part* of the Muslim world, a country cannot be half part of it or not, as long as it has a great proportion of Muslims in the country then that is OK. I'll create the map again to show the Muslim majority countries (with Yellow again). Thank you, Salaam. Tangomaan (talk) 20:09, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

By the way Islam is the majority religion in Kazakhstan, the sources from CIA etc. are data from 1996, today the number of Kazakh people are increasing, and Russians decreasing, so the Muslim population is going higher (over 50%). Tangomaan (talk) 20:25, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Umm, new image has changed nothing Lihaas (talk) 22:31, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

• I don't think so. Look again, Moshin has changed BiH and Ethiopia to "Muslim plurality". I think it's OK now.

Angelo De La Paz (talk) 23:41, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Ethiopia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethiopia#Religion Lihaas (talk) 08:42, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

pakistan

the leader tag on the table refers to the head of state, no? that's supposed to be the one seen as a leader. Gilani is a PM. Lihaas (talk) 19:43, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

change in table

the following edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Muslim_majority_countries&diff=240676674&oldid=240279597)

totally altered the table without discussion. would it be better to have the leader or this new uncited info? Lihaas (talk) 12:48, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

I have applied a source to those data, by providing a link to the Atlas of Religion, which shows exactly the divisions and schools of religions. The Leader column was just dead, was not relevant at all, plus you would have to change all the time, who would take a note of that, plus the Main sect and Maddhab provide a more better information of the Muslim countries. Tangomaan (talk) 18:18, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Kazakhstan percentage

I think the percentage data for Kazakhstan should be balanced between the three percentages, 47% by CIA (from 1996 data), 53% by the Daik-Press (2003 data) and 57% by the Kazakhstan government (2007 data). I think the data by the States is outdated since 96, and should be updated. Any suggestions? Tangomaan (talk) 19:27, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

I'd settle for 50% for balance. Tangomaan (talk) 19:29, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

No, I wouldn't. I'm not sure what Dais Press is, but if that's some sort of [free] media in the country then that and the government source is best. The CIA is certainly not an authority when the government AND another local source doesn't just corroborate it but contradicts it. Lihaas (talk) 19:56, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Well this source says[3]: The Muslim population of Kazakhstan is about 50%., It is stated Islam is practiced by 47% of the population of Kazakhstan by the CIA and US Department of State (1994) and 57% according to the Embassy of UK (2007). This source can then be used to present both sides of the statistics I think. Tangomaan (talk) 21:44, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

What is the verifiability of "aboutkazakhstan.com"? not sure it sounds too good. so far the govt of kazakh's census is undoubtedly bettey. uk and usa's sources for the results are far more dubious. porbably some evangelical at the embassy. Lihaas (talk) 21:53, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Of course, your source would change the map as Kazakh would not be a majority then. Lihaas (talk) 21:55, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Well should I change it to the more recent stat of 57%? I think the 47% is pretty old, 14 yrs old. Demographics of Kazakhstan show the Kazakh population is increasing, and Russians decreasing, so the 57% reflect on those population stats. Tangomaan (talk) 22:04, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Ya, well, the sources (and links) on there are pathetic. you should certainly change it. I presume the other-stans in Central Asia have good sources. Lihaas (talk) 22:15, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Here is the source directly to the link of the percentage (Kazakhstan Country Profile): [4]

Albania should not be on the list per Religion in Albania

This has been brought up in the discussions (IRC) and I am removing it from the article. Please don't reinstate by citing non-current references. Otherwise we'll just start formal litigation procedings. Mineralè (talk) 15:37, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Bangladesh

Why is Bangladesh not included in the list?It has a huge population of about 140 million of which about 85-90% are Muslims!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Templarz (talk • contribs) 23:12, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Exactly. Thats my question too. In the table, Pakistan (ranked second) is followed by Nigeria (ranked fourth). Where is number three? Bangladesh is number three. How can Bangladesh be excluded from the list? With Muslims compromising 89% of the 140 million strong population, Bangladesh is the third largest Muslim country in the world.--ChaudhryAzan (talk) 18:08, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Military Power

Surely having the amount of military that each country has no merit. I think it just plays on many Western prejudices and has no point on a page about Muslim majority.it is a lie it can't be true.

I agree. GDP per capita should go to. Anything that isn't directly related to religion, demographics or type of country should be removed from the table. 96T (talk) 10:04, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

Somaliland

Where is Somaliland? Why is Kosovo included but not Somaliland? Outback the koala (talk) 03:12, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Eritrea

Eritrea has Muslim majority as per UNHCR report. But User:Local hero keeps delisting it saying 50% is not a majority!? Seethakathi (talk) 16:37, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

This article has been locked at a POV version removing references to UNHCR without discussion. Please restore references and data. Tigrinya people are predominantly Muslim and make up 55% of Eritreans. Also Arabic and Tigrinya are the only official languages of the nation according to CIA World Factbook. Eritrea was partitioned from Ethiopia due to religious and associated cultural differences.Seethakathi (talk) 08:36, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

 Not done. 55% of the population that are "predominantly" Muslim could be less or more than 50%. Better sourcing is needed. ~Amatulić (talk) 22:03, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Guinea-Bissau

Guinea-Bissau has Muslim majority as per UNHCR report. But User:Local hero keeps delisting it saying 50% is not a majority!? Seethakathi (talk) 16:37, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

This article has been locked at a POV version removing references to UNHCR without discussion. Please restore references and data. Seethakathi (talk) 05:07, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

 Not done. That source says only "approximately 50%". It could be less, it could be more. We don't know from that source whether it's actually a majority or not. Do you have another source that confirms it's a majority? ~Amatulić (talk) 06:46, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Palestine

Palestine has Muslim majority as per CIA report 1 and report 2. But User:Local hero keeps delisting it saying it is not a country!? Palestine issues passports now recognised by the USA and hundred other sovereign nations. Seethakathi (talk) 16:42, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Palestine (see the article) is a geographic region, recognized by some countries as sovereign but not others. Just because it issues passports doesn't mean it's a sovereign nation, and the USA doesn't recognize Hamas as a legitimate governing authority. The CIA World Factbook doesn't even list Palestine as a location in its own right, and Palestine isn't synonymous with the Gaza strip.

Even so, I think this is splitting hairs. I see no reason why this article can't list geographic areas as well as countries. ~Amatulić (talk) 17:04, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Do you want separate entries for West Bank and Gaza Strip? It would not be appropriate. Hamas does not issue passports. PNA does. Please reconsider. Seethakathi (talk) 05:07, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

North Cyprus

North Cyprus has Muslim majority. It is a sovereign republic recognised by Turkey. But User:Local hero keeps delisting it saying it is not a country!? North Cyprus issues passports and diplomatic offices of the USA, UK, France and Germany have been opened in the country. Seethakathi (talk) 16:46, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

It is irrelevant that they issue passports. Taiwan, Macau, and Hong Kong issue passports too, and they are all part of China. And I think everyone would agree that Hong Kong is not a country. ~Amatulić (talk) 17:15, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Also, a majority usually means over 50%. Bosnia and Herzegovina, Eritrea, and Guinea-Bissau do not have Muslim populations that exceed 50% of the total population. --Local hero ^talk 19:49, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

This article clearly states in the header and includes nations with at least 50 per cent Muslim population. These five nations are historically, culturally, politically, economically affiliated with the Middle East. Seethakathi (talk) 05:07, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Then it needs to be changed to 'over 50%' Muslim population in the text because that's what a majority is. --Local hero ^talk 20:19, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

I've just seen that he's been indefinitely blocked. Thank God. --Local hero ^talk 20:30, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

I have clarified the lead to match the title of the article. It now says "more than 50%" instead of "at least 50%". I have also unprotected the article now that one side of the content dispute has been blocked. ~Amatulić (talk) 23:33, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Percentage of Muslim's in Turkey

The given reference (no.26) for Muslim percentage of Turkey is not stating it as %84.1 or another data. It does not contain any data about percentage of Muslim's. It just asks how religious people feel themselves without asking religion. Official percentage is %99 but it's also exaggerated because they just write down Muslim to your ID when you born although there are some %2-3 atheist according to Eurobarometer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.78.194.134 (talk) 00:20, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Mayotte

Please add Mayotte to the list. Source - CIA World Factbook

An overseas department of the French Republic, not independent. Zazaban (talk) 21:24, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Cocos Islands

Please add Cocos Islands to the list. Source - CIA World Factbook

A territory of Australia, not independent. Zazaban (talk) 21:24, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Uyghurstan

Please add Uyghurstan to the list. It is autonomous.

Autonomous, yes, (although not called 'Uyghurstan',) a country, no. Zazaban (talk) 21:24, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Kashmir

Please add Kashmir to the list. It is a disputed region pending resolution before UN.

Which far from makes it a separate country. Zazaban (talk) 21:24, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Tatarstan

Please add Tatarstan to the list. It is a Russian republic.

And so part of Russia, not an independent country. Zazaban (talk) 21:24, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Bashkortostan

Please Bashkortostan to the list. Source - CIA World Factbook

Still part of Russia. Zazaban (talk) 21:24, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Key Word is Countries

Before requesting an addition to the page, it would be helpful if you validated the place is a country. Territories, dependent areas, ect are not part of the article.Meatsgains (talk) 21:33, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps it would be useful to keep a list somewhere of Muslim-majority territories outside of Muslim-majoirty countries, as there does seem to be quite a few of them. 64.180.40.75 (talk) 06:45, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Bosnia

Why Bosnia isn't part of the list? Don Musty — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.95.104.222 (talk) 15:39, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

Because it's Muslim percentage is less than 50%, which is not a majority. --Local hero ^talk 20:01, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

You should use more recent information than those from 1991. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.175.39.254 (talk) 07:40, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Clean up

First of all the sort did not work so I replaced it with the {{sort}} template. Once I got it working I removed the rank column as it sorts in the same order as population making it unnecessary duplication. Removed the flags as decoration and replaced with links to "Islam in country" which is as per the MOS and more useful than links to the country. I added four columns referenced to the Pew Research Center which gives a different opinion on the number and % of Muslims per country. It also shows an estimate for the number of Shia/Sunni in the various countries. I realise that Western Sahara and Mayotte are probably controversial but certainly in the case of WS its inclusion is just as valid as Northern Cyprus. All references to other Wikipedia have been replace, where possible, or removed. Dead links have been replaced. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 16:03, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Non-autonomous areas

Hi, Can I suggest putting a second table below the first and call it "Non-autonomous and disputed territories". Then you can move mayotte, palestine, western sahara there, and add Kashmir and Somaliland. Not sure if you'd need Kashmir (India) and Kashmir (Pakistan). Alternatively, perhaps put a * next to the name of all the disputed or non-autonomous territories. It would also be useful to have the controlling country listed after wards e.g. Western Sahara (Morocco) Halon8 (talk) 13:14, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Demographics: Ethnicity + Language

Suggestion to add 2 columns: 1) Main ethnic nationalities 2) Major vernacular languages

The data to be taken from the wiki entries for demographics of each country. Although the table is already wide, the addition of 2 columns would enhance the table. The ethnic and linual data supplement the religious demographic fields. I'll link here example of revised table. I won't edit suggested revision into entry without discussion. Yohananw (talk) 14:49, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Page

I have redirected this page for several reasons. Firstly the source from Pew used give contradictory results with at one point add non-denominational figures and then leaving it out. Also the table is off-topic going on about military and gdp scope. Also the fiqh part is unsourced. Also the scope of this page is already covered on the page i redirected it to. Pass a Method talk 20:09, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

You shouldn't delete the article before giving some time for discussion. Mightymights (talk) 11:42, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

The article should stay but maybe the 3 columns on the right can be deleted because those columns seem irrelevant to this article. Khestwol (talk) 12:32, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

It is full of inacurate cntent. The accurate content is already on the redirect page So theres no point to an article here Pass a Method talk 15:26, 8 September 2013 (UTC)