Talk:List of Minnesota Wild head coaches

Merge proposal

Instead of merging it with the Wilds' page, why don't we expand this article to include General managers, owners, and assistant coaches? We can puts lost of things on this page. Almost all the teams have their own coach's article and I think it is a good idea to avoid clutter on the main page. Masterhatch 22 August 2005

We standardized it so all teams have a coaching article. A list of one is still a list, its just not a long one. Team pages as well have a standardized format to them and to avoid clutter we keep such things on their own article. -Djsasso (talk) 15:51, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

One coach will not clutter anything. There is no list of one item. A list means a set of two items or more.--Crzycheetah 17:09, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

And that is your opinion. A whole new section, will indeed clutter a page when we strive to have the various team pages have the same sections for uniformity. Merges such as this have been discussed and rejected in the past. -Djsasso (talk) 17:11, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Secondly you should discuss mergers before making them and blindly reverting. -Djsasso (talk) 17:14, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

It isn't my opinion, it's a fact. Please read this definition.--Crzycheetah 17:16, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

I put a merge notice and no one discussed for one week,so I merged it. It's not my problem that no one discussed it with me.--Crzycheetah 17:16, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Actually it is because you are supposed to put a merge notice on BOTH pages that you want to merge. Using the mergeto and the mergefrom templates. Nor did you notify the wikiproject involved with the page which would have been normal courtesy. If you want to get sticky about how many it takes to make it a list. Then we simply remove the word list from the title of this article and call it an article and not a list. Its an article about the fact the team has only had one coach since its inception. If you want to get rediculous about it. -Djsasso (talk) 17:18, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

No one informed me of it. There was mergeto template here and no one minded it, so I was advised by WP:BOLD and merged it. do you still believe that one item is a list?--Crzycheetah 17:22, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Secondly I would appreciate you not accusing me of vandalising. A content dispute is not vandalism. -Djsasso (talk) 17:25, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

You are reverting a redirect page; that's vandalism!--Crzycheetah 17:27, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

No I am making a WP:Good faith edit because I feel this article should be its own article. That makes it a content dispute. Vandalism means there is an intent to hurt wikipedia.-Djsasso (talk) 17:30, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

I apologize for removing your comments, it was due to an edit conflict, I believe.--Crzycheetah 18:24, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

I have to agree with Djasso on this: while it may seem like a small addition to this page, it disrupts the uniformity in relation to the 29 other NHL team articles. It looks like you've been around for a while: It would have been polite to give notice to watchers of both articles involved in a merger. The main team page is obviously the more visible of the two, I don't understand why you wouldn't have sought input there. ccwaters (talk) 17:36, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

I've reverted this article back. There's no consensus for making this a 're-direct' to Minnesota Wild. Also, the 29 other ...head coaches articles are not re-directs. So please 'cheetah' stop disrupting the NHL flow. GoodDay (talk) 17:56, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

I can understand the rationale, but like others, I would prefer the list remain as is. Wikipedia is not paper, and this list will obviously grow in the future. Incidentally, Crzycheetah, it is most certainly not vandalism to revert a redirect created without discussion. Rather, it is a normal second step per WP:BRD. Resolute 18:02, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

I am also in agreement that this should remain it's own article for consistency with the other 29 NHL team articles on coaches -Pparazorback (talk) 18:14, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

A list is a set of two items or more. One item does not equal to a list. When we have just one item under a list, it hurts Wikipedia as a whole. I strongly disagree comparing this page with other 29 teams' pages because this team has just one head coach. For the sake of grammar, this page should be renamed at least to "Minnesota Wild head coach". I still believe that redirecting this page is a better option.--Crzycheetah 18:24, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Unless you can get a consensus to move all 30 to re-directs? I'm against making this article a re-direct. PS- this goes for List of Nashville Predators head coaches aswell. GoodDay (talk) 18:30, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Why is it either all 30 or none at all? Each page has its own deficiencies.--Crzycheetah 18:42, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

All 30 must be as consistant as possible; mainly to prevent me from having an anxiety attack, but also cause they all have a common theme - The NHL -. GoodDay (talk) 18:48, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Maybe its an WP:IAR thing. Because a redirect is less usefull than this page is, reguardless of technicalities. In situations for example where someone is the first person to put their name on a sign up sheet. You still say that the sheet is the list of people who signed up even if there is only one name on it so far. This probably actually falls under the use the most commonly used phrase criteria. And I would say this is easily the most common phrase that would deal with this page. -Djsasso (talk) 18:50, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

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