Talk:List of McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II variants

Merge

There is absolutely no reason to have an RF-4C article (aside from the fact that it ignores WP:Air MOS and Wikipedia naming conventions). It should be merged into this page. - Emt147 ^Burninate! 15:27, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

I disagree. This article should be merged with the main F-4 article. No other aircraft has multiple articles.Royalcourtier (talk) 05:26, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Why not to merge the RF-4C article with the F-4 page

The RF-4C article should not be merged into the F-4 article for the following reasons. The RF-4C is much more than a variant of the F-4. The airframe, the equipment, and the avionics were very different from the fighter version (F-4). The RF-4C developed along different lines from the F-4, which was modified from the B model, to the C, and on through D, E, and F models of the fighter. The RF-4C was produced in only a limited extent for export in an RF-4E version, but not the other models. The mission equipment for reconnaissance was completely different from the fighter and did not have an offensive or munitions capability. The tactical reconnaissance mission of the RF-4C required a totally different training program for the aircrew members, to the extent that fighter and reconnaissance crews could not fly either the aircraft or mission of the other type. The avionics of the reconnaissance aircraft was very differnt from the fighter aircraft to support the sensor systems and the low-level radar navigation requirements. The reconnaissance aircraft followed their own chain of command and had their own squadrons, bases, and support establishments. For all these reasons and to extent the comprehensive nature of Wikipedia, the RF-4C article should remain separate. (A link from the F-4 page to the more comprehensive RF-4C description would be appropriate since all the descriptions are pretty light.)

I will wait and see what you can do with that article. Right now it is a short stub that does not comply with Wikipedia:WikiProject_Aircraft/page_content and adds little beyond the F-4 variants page. I respect your passion for the RF-4C but I'm not convinced there are enough available high-quality references, especially when it comes to the avionics, combat use, etc. - Emt147 ^Burninate! 01:15, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

EMT147: Thanks for the suggestions on content and the extra time to improve the article. I will get to work on it, but will need a couple of weeks for revisions. Feel free to offer specific suggestions and help with the formatting since I am new to this.

My free time is pretty limited but I'll help out when I can. Thanks for contributing! - Emt147 ^Burninate! 20:59, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Caption of F-4K picture - wrong date?

Hello, the caption of the picture of the F-4K launching from HMS Ark Royal is dated as 1975 whereas the file description under [[1]] says the photograph was taken in 1971. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.67.131.13 (talk) 20:28, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

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fate of F-4E(S)

I may have opportunity to photograph a F-4E(S) at the Israel Air Force Museum possibly this week. At my last visit one was in the back area behind the of display hangars and the garages with the kid's coloring book area which surround from the south and east the main parked exhibit of aircraft, these F-4E(S) phantoms were near the Soviet/Egyptian radar sets captured during the war of attrition, I think I recall a second F-4E(S) in a bit worse condition behind it, this was about 5 years ago. No idea what became of the third. Not sure what to do about citing the info though, would a photograph and/or a display sign count for citation?solomon(for now)79.181.48.213 (talk) 10:48, 29 March 2021 (UTC)