Talk:List of German serial killers

Latest comment: 4 months ago by 70.161.8.90 in topic Why pre and post unification

Special features of the German justice system

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E.g. the German 'lebenslang' used in German criminal law means something quite different than if one were to consider the same term in common usage. In German criminal law to my knowledge 'lebenslang' means that one stays with certain exceptions inside prison for 15 years at least.

First of all, today I wanted to add a German serial killer who came to my attention in a forensics programme broadcast on non-public television to the list in this Wikipedia article.

I suspect that Stefan Schmitz is already a free man again and that there has been a nearly complete ban on any information pertaining him and his case to not endanger his possible reintegration into society. (Which I personally consider as wrong. His murder victims suffered a kind of death sentence after all at his hands and their friends and relatives have to live with the consequences for the rest of their lives. I believe that perhaps the majority of Germans think like this or similarly, and that the German justice system in general is far too lax and the punishments too lenient. After that, the term 'life sentence' as used by the German criminal justice system could be described as euphemistic in a certain way.)

The German title of the above mentioned forensic programme is 'Anwälte der Toten'. There Stefan Schmitz was given the alias 'Olaf Worm' and he was characterised as one of the worst serial killers in German history! He was a young dermatologist in Berlin and according to the forensic docu-soap 'Anwälte der Toten', at least a few of his murders were proven beyond doubt by means of the circumstantial evidence found in his flat and his white compact car and the testimony of two surviving victims. And he was a suspect in many more murder cases. He, on the other hand, is said to have denied everything until the TV programme was made!

The following homepage (and very brief content of this thereafter) was the only proof of Mr. Schmitz's existence I could find on the internet!


https://www.horror-page.de/dr-schmitz-stefan/#comment-37240

English below!

Name: Dr. Schmitz, Stefan

Anzahl Opfer: ca. 5

Delikte/Tötungsarten: Mord, Leichenschändung

Festnahme: 1996

Urteil: 29. August 1997 wurde er als Prostituiertenmörder und Gefahr für die Allgemeinheit zu lebenslanger Haft (mit anschließender Sicherungsverwahrung) verurteilt

Aufenthaltsort: -

Content of the above given homepage translated into English with deepl.com :

Name: Dr. Schmitz, Stefan

Number of victims: approx. 5

Offences/modes of homicide: Murder, desecration of corpses

Arrest: 1996

Verdict: 29 August 1997 he was sentenced to life imprisonment (with subsequent preventive detention) as a murderer of prostitutes and danger to the general public

Whereabouts: -


The very limited information given above about the Stefan Schmitz case and the German legal system alone leads me to believe that the list of German serial killers, as presumably available to the German authorities in some form, is many times larger than the one publicly available here in Wikipedia.


By the way, I would much rather contribute to Wikipedia from within my profile. I have not been able to log in to my (only) profile here on Wikipedia since quite some time, maybe two years now, or alternatively ask for the right kind of help needed to solve my problem. Lodidol used to be my profile name as far as I remember. 2A01:598:C800:2D9B:CFA5:18C2:974:91CB (talk) 18:32, 24 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

Lodidol here again!
I beg Your pardon. I was very wrong with my yesterday suspicions!
The reason why I could only find one link to the case of Stefan Schmitz I now believe lies in my yesterday use of the free proton-VPN which I just recently started using. Meanwhile I collected a little bunch of newspaper articles from 1997 on the case in a file which I would like to share in here but don't know how to do this best and not to annoy anyone involved. 2A01:598:C803:EF90:A475:7826:AAA4:4ADF (talk) 14:17, 25 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

Why pre and post unification

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This spilt in the listees seems very arbitary. Unification has nothing to do with serial killers.70.161.8.90 (talk) 16:56, 8 June 2024 (UTC)Reply