Talk:List of 2021–22 NBA season transactions
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Color code and asterisks
editOn the Free agents section we have:
- color codes on the top of the free agents table
Denotes unsigned players whose free-agent rights were renounced | |
Denotes sign and trade players | |
Denotes player who is signed after buyout | |
Denotes signed player to Training Camp who failed to make opening day roster | |
Denotes signed player whose contract is Non Fully Guaranteed on opening day | |
Denotes player signed to 10-day contract |
- asterisks (notes) on the bottom of the table
* Player option
** Team option
*** Early termination option
**** Previously on a two-way contract
Can we combine or integrate these two method of extra information?
Also we need to add symbols to the color-coded cells in order to follow MOS:COLOR "Ensure that color is not the only method used to communicate important information. Especially, do not use colored text or background unless its status is also indicated using another method, such as an accessible symbol matched to a legend, or footnote labels. Otherwise, blind users or readers accessing Wikipedia through a printout or device without a color screen will not receive that information."
Thanks! - MT (talk) 05:17, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
- The colour coding began last year with a single editor and was expanded this year. Personally I'd keep the first two, indicate buyouts and 10-day contracts in the team columns of the table, and ditch the other two as there's already a section for camp cuts and contract guarantees are often not officially mentioned, just like other terms. As for asterisks at the bottom, the first three can be ditched once a player's been signed, the fourth can go in the team column, and a case could be made for adding colour coding or language for RFAs who are signed to an offer sheet. G. Timothy Walton (talk) 10:17, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
Draft pick signing
editAlso can we do something about the following table? At first read, it looks like Şengün signed his rookie contract with the Thunder (and then he was later traded to the Rockets) and Kai Jones signed his rookie contract with the Knicks (and then he was later traded to the Hornets), which are not the case here. - MT (talk) 05:51, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
Pick | Player | Date signed | Team | Ref |
---|---|---|---|---|
16 | Alperen Şengün | August 7 | Oklahoma City Thunder (traded to Houston) | |
19 | Kai Jones | August 3 | New York Knicks (traded to Charlotte) |
- I have several suggestion for this:
- A. Ignore the draft team and the trades completely, and only include the team that are currently holding the player's draft rights when the signing was made. This is simple, and the rookie contract signing does not involve the draft team at all. However, in every draft board and NBA records, Şengün will always be OKC's draft pick.
Pick Player Date signed Team Ref 16 Alperen Şengün August 7 Houston Rockets 19 Kai Jones August 3 Charlotte Hornets
- B. Emphasize the team that are currently holding the player's draft rights when the signing was made, while the information about the draft team and trade are written in smaller fonts (explained in footnotes), similar to 2011–12 list. Full disclaimer, I was involved on the 2011–12 list.
Pick Player Date signed Teama Ref 16 Alperen Şengün August 7 Houston Rockets (acquired from Oklahoma City) 19 Kai Jones August 3 Charlotte Hornets (acquired from New York)
- a. ^Team denotes the team that holds the players' draft rights. Teams in parentheses denotes the teams that drafted the players before any trade occurred.
- C. Write both the draft team and the team that are currently holding the player's draft rights when the signing was made.
Pick Player Date signed Teama Draft teamb Ref 16 Alperen Şengün August 7 Houston Rockets Oklahoma City Thunder 19 Kai Jones August 3 Charlotte Hornets New York Knicks
- a. ^Team denotes the team that holds the players' draft rights when the contract was signed.
- b. ^Draft team denotes the team that drafted the players before any trade occurred.
- I personally like both B and C options, as it includes all the information needed for both casual readers or avid NBA fans. Option C is easier to understand but there will be a lot of team names repeated since 39 of 61 draft rights were not traded. Feel free to suggest any new formats. Thanks! - MT (talk) 08:07, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
- I'd go for A with a slight modification - asterisk markup for players whose rights were traded before they were signed. B could be modified by using (rights acquired) as the sole language. G. Timothy Walton (talk) 10:20, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you for your response and suggestion. I've edited them according to option B with the rights acquired wording. Also added some explanation to the tables. Information about two-way contract are integrated to the tables without asterisks. - MT (talk) 13:41, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
Summer leagues
editShould we have some markup for free agents and draft picks who are on the summer league teams but haven't been announced as signing rookie or standard contracts? G. Timothy Walton (talk) 22:54, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
Considering splitting 'Free agents' into its own article
editFor several months, this article is one of the largest articles of wikipedia, with around 550kB. The largest section, free agents, is about 228kB big, and is probably large enough to be split into its own article. zsteve21 (talk) 22:15, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
- That feels like fixing what isn't broken. The current layout works for the rest of the series. G. Timothy Walton (talk) 23:05, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
- That's because the rest of the series is not as large as this article. Yes, there is nothing broken in this article, but in future seasons, if there are even more transactions than this season, there might be problems fitting every transaction into one article. zsteve21 (talk) 13:33, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
- The free agents section is a very reasonable section to split into its own article. Not only is it about half of the article, it is quite distinct from the rest of the article's content. Onetwothreeip (talk) 07:37, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
- alternatively, there could be a simplified version of this section with it branching off into a main article or "see also." It'd still give needed information without taking up 250K. - MountainKemono (talk) 09:53, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
- The free agents section is a very reasonable section to split into its own article. Not only is it about half of the article, it is quite distinct from the rest of the article's content. Onetwothreeip (talk) 07:37, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
- That's because the rest of the series is not as large as this article. Yes, there is nothing broken in this article, but in future seasons, if there are even more transactions than this season, there might be problems fitting every transaction into one article. zsteve21 (talk) 13:33, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
Lowest pick vs. worst pick
editSince I botched an edit summary...
Lowest pick can be read as the lowest number, not the lowest in draft order. Worst has an unambiguous meaning and is a comparative, not a pejorative.
Official NBA press releases now use more favorable rather than higher or better when describing a traded pick; they also use if when most favorable would be more correct language. Apparently they also found it ambiguous to use lower/higher comparatives. G. Timothy Walton (talk) 10:55, 3 August 2023 (UTC)