Talk:Liberism

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Gabriel Yuji in topic Merger proposal (again)

Noteable enough for an article? Merge? edit

It seems to be something he mentioned once in one chapter of a book that no WP:RS has picked up. Merge to liberalism? CarolMooreDC (talk) 15:52, 11 April 2009 (UTC)Reply

== I totally disagree with the remark "In Italy, liberism is often identified with the political theories of Gaetano Mosca, Luigi Einaudi and Bruno Leoni. Internationally, liberism has been advocated by the Austrian School of economic theory, for instance by Ludwig von Mises and Friedrich von Hayek." The quoted philosopers (Einaudi and Hayek) have alsways refused the use of the term "liberism" to indicate anything in relationship with "liberalism", markint that the economical freedom are simply a consequence of the concept of individual freedom and right of property, which are the moral foundamentals of the whole philosophy. The intention of Croce to attack the right to private property and to free enterpise separating them from the general philosophy of liberalism, that is primarly a theory of natural rights, was always criticised openy by the quoted philosophers and by all the main representatives of liberalism. [User:Guido Cacciari|Guido Cacciari]] 18:55 07/03/2020 (UTC). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Guido Cacciari (talkcontribs)

Merger proposal (again) edit

There is no such a thing as "liberism" as a concept of its own across different languages. In Italian, the term is used to distinguish the economic aspects of classical liberalism, so that economic liberalism can be easily told apart from political and social liberalism. Thus, the ideology of a liberal party may be liberalismo, but laissez-faire economics would be better described as liberismo (or neoliberismo if we're talking about neo-liberalism).

This is also why all references are to works by Italian authors. Sartori only sought to translate the term in English because he thought it was a more elegant way to convey the nuance between various aspects of liberalism. However, on Wikipedia having separate articles for "liberism" and "economic liberalism" is needlessly confusing since no such distinction exists. A merger would be appropriate. Daydreamers (talk) 20:33, 11 August 2022 (UTC)Reply

I agree with the merger proposal of @Daydreamers: "liberism" seems to be a clumsy translation of the Italian word "liberismo", which doesn't really exist in other languages.--Karma1998 (talk) 19:50, 2 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

@Daydreamers and Karma1998: why was liberism redirected to Laissez-faire instead of economic liberalism Braganza (talk) 13:29, 26 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

Not me who did it. My merger proposal was indeed to Economic liberalism. There is some overlap between the two terms so there is room for arguing. As defined on Wikipedia laissez-faire sounds like an idealized system based on the principles of economic liberalism? So I'm still leaning towards economic liberalism being a better redirect destination for liberism, I guess. Daydreamers (talk) 13:56, 26 November 2022 (UTC)Reply
Added the content to Laissez-faire#liberismo. Feel free to move it. Gabriel Yuji (talk) 18:37, 1 December 2022 (UTC)Reply