Talk:Lambdacism

Article

Sure, we shouldn't just have the dictionary definition listed here. Still, it's a valid page and there's no reason to just direct to wiktionary. (Though possibly lallation should be merged here.) — LlywelynII 04:56, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Audio needed

An audio clip demonstrating the impediment would really help here (and in all other speech impediment articles). Ijon (talk) 09:29, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

I had this as a child (specifically, my 'L's would become 'W's.), and can, as an adult, do it more or less on command. I can provide a recording if that would work. Sumanuil (talk) 05:07, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

confusing

Wait, so is this article about a medical condition or a sound change in languages? First it's stated that it's a condition, then the article talks about substituting /r/ for /l/ (BTW, is the phrase "substitute instead of" even grammatically correct?) in Japanese - which, I guess, it's allophony and not speech impediment? - and then talks about a regular sound change in Proto-Indo-Iranian (which turned /l/ into /r/, which is rhotacism, not lambdacism). Then it talks about how Japanese speakers confuse English /r/ and /l/, which, again, is neither a medical condition nor a speech impediment. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.146.69.87 (talk) 11:11, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

This article seems to have some of the same issues as the article Rhotacism (speech impediment), the latter probably being even worse because it is not even clear which "sound r" the article is talking about.

In both articles medical conditions, phonetics, and different languages are totally jumbled up. Is it a medical condition if someone simply has a different native language? Is a foreign accent to be considered a speech impediment? --217.239.0.161 (talk) 23:05, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

I have added a citation that supports the definition of lambdacism as having problems pronouncing the letter l. Presumably this refers to problems in producing the local pronunciation of the letter l, which will differ from place to place, and language to language. The remainder of the article would benefit from more references, then unreferenced material could be removed.TSventon (talk) 10:42, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

I have also removed the reference to sound change in Proto-Indo-Iranian which is not about a medical condition.TSventon (talk) 10:44, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

I have removed the "confusing" tag having made the improvements above. TSventon (talk) 11:54, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

Requested move 23 April 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not moved (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 19:36, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

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Lambdacism → De-lambdacism – A similar move proposal has already passed over at De-rhotacism, and we should probably stick to one format for these conditions. The renamings have been discussed at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Linguistics#Rhotacism_(speech_impediment), where the conclusion was that the terms are more accurate and NPOV, as well as more common in speech pathology literature. TheRealDario04 (talk) 10:43, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose per lack of RS evidence. Both sources cited in the article call it lambdacism. Nardog (talk) 14:41, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose, the subject is not known as de-lambdacism at all. "More accurate" maybe but would be yet another term invented at Wikipedia. – Thjarkur (talk) 18:09, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.