Talk:Krishnadevaraya's Bahamani Expedition

Make a single infobox

@Sudsahab, make a single infobox. We are not making infoboxes for each and every conflicts in a single campaign. Imperial^[AFCND] 08:35, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

Thank for your consideration Sudsahab (talk) 08:57, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

@Sudsahab, WP:RAJ is not just an essay. It is based on the agreement of several other editors. Tagging @Sitush. Imperial^[AFCND] 09:59, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

Krishnadevaraya defeated Barid once again in Bidar and captured the fort.- _{Barid 1 of Bidar Sultanate already mention in article body} Sudsahab (talk) 10:06, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

Please do not mix up the campaigns. We can't do WP:SYNTH here. Ie, cannot mix up two conflicts to make another campaign. They should either be allies, or must fought along in the campaign. As long as it wasn't the case, we can't do this. Imperial^[AFCND] 10:09, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

If it was the perspective of Krishndevaraya, then change the title into "Krishnadevaraya's campaigns in Deccan". So you can add each and every conflicts between them including all Deccan Sultanates. That definitely works. Imperial^[AFCND] 10:11, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

@Sudsahab I suggest you to move the article to draftspace, and continue the work as "Krishnadevaraya's campaigns in Deccan". Complete the article and then submit for AFC. Making massive changes subsequently while the article is at the mainspace questions the reliability of the article. And if you want to keep the title as earlier one "Mahmud II's campaign of Vijayanagara", we can't allow you to add other Deccan Sultanates. Because it falls under WP:SYNYH. What does other Sultanates had to do with the Mahmud II's campaign in Vijayanagar? Imperial^[AFCND] 10:21, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

Okay, Thanks for your consideration Sudsahab (talk) 10:31, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

My pleasure. But do remove the RAJ era sources. Try using modern sources for more stability. Imperial^[AFCND] 10:32, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

I dont know how to move it to draft can u do it for me Sudsahab (talk) 10:52, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

I Am Removing A Raj Era Source, Published in 1935 DeepstoneV (talk) 10:07, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

@Sudsahab, could you explain how this is related to the Bidar Sultanate? Imperial^[AFCND] 17:47, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

He then advanced on Gulbarga, and captured the fort after a short siege, having inflicted a severe defeat on Barld-i-Mamalik and his allies, who were holding the place. He next set out for Bidar in pursuit of Barid, and having de¬ feated him once again in battle - Here it is Talking About Barid the ruler of Bidar Sultanate Sudsahab (talk) 17:54, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

That's what I am asking. What's the role of Bidar here? Bidar and Bahmanis were infact enemies to each other. What's the point of adding Bidar into this article? Imperial^[AFCND] 17:59, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

okay Sudsahab (talk) 18:08, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

So please revert your edit. Imperial^[AFCND] 06:42, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

i already did Sudsahab (talk) 15:13, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Here the timeline of the article is 1509-1512 and according to the WP:RS provided krishnadevraya defeated Barid shah and these events are under the Title called Bahamani Expedition.Note he defeated Mahmud shah bahamani 2 in 1510 and Barid in 1512 all these events are under one Campaign, So u told me that make one infobox then Bidar sultanate should be added according to ur arguement.If not then i should make another infobox for events in Bidar. Sudsahab (talk) 09:47, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Which WP:RS describes both in one campaign? And there is nothing called "Bahamani". It's Bahmani. Imperial^[AFCND] 10:22, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Yes timeline of the Expedition is 1509-1512 after the death and anarchic conditions going on in Bijapur he invaded Bidar and here is the title - Expedition against the BahmanI kingdom Bahamani and Bahmani these are just words using for Bahmani Kingdom That doesn't matter. Pls Dont divert the topic, just give the answer Sudsahab (talk) 11:06, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

If you had checked all the sources thoroughly then I'm sure you won't need to ask it here https://archive.org/details/delhisultanate00bhar/page/310/mode/2up Sudsahab (talk) 11:32, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

There is no need to add Bidar in here. It is like adding Mughals in Afsharid campaigns against Hotaks. Imperial^[AFCND] 12:14, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia dont run on , "its like" "i think"., Wikipedia runs on what WP:RS says. okay so i am adding Bidar as the source supports this Sudsahab (talk) 16:45, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

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