Talk:Khojivank Pantheon of Tbilisi
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Plaque on site
editOne of the sources of information on this article is the actual plaque located at the Armenian Pantheon. The plaque is in the right hand photo
and is very readable. The plaque mentions in a couple of places that the Armenian Pantheon is now maintained with funds from the Tbilisi City Hall, which would include this plaque. Wikiboer (talk) 21:26, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
- I would be careful to use it as a source. Given the controversy only high-quality, scholarly sources should be used. Not a plague that might have been written by involved parties (as opposed to independent historians). 94.43.229.183 (talk) 07:54, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
- What controversy? Some pov editors on Wikipedia trying to hide the truth on Wikipedia for crude propaganda purposes is not a controversy. There is only a "controversy" if legitimate sources say there is a controversy (and that controversy has to exist off-Wikipedia). Meowy 12:05, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
Neutrality
editI really have to mention, after reading this article, I couldn't find any clear reference to Soviets, Communism and any of their atheist point of view. This article gives the reader a feeling that the very beginning of the destruction was on behalf of the Democratic Republic of Georgia or any normal thinking government, in-which it wasn't. It was the USSRs supranational atheist order for destruction of a lot of religious buildings and relics in all Soviet Union.
This complaint is written to my very opinion, in which, when I was reading this article I thought, before rereading and seeing 1937, this destruction of a minority's Church was done by the free Georgian authorities. We, Georgians and Armenians and a lot of other bit educated people, know that Lavrenti Beria was a Communist (one of the most cruel), and in 1937 the Caucasus was already communist for almost 16 years, so it was the Communist ATHEIST Regime which ordered that destruction, However, there are a lot of naive people (don't even have to mention it) who would think otherwise because of the structure of this article.
By reading section Destruction; paragraph 1; the second last line; almost everything was already destroyed before the independence of Georgia, the next part of the destruction of the cemetery was done by the post-Soviet Georgian Government, but the reference to them is abundant, so no changes are needed there. GiorgiTu (talk) 16:31, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
What remains?
edit"A tiny part that remains, together with some relocated gravestones, is preserved as the Armenian Pantheon of Tbilisi". I am unhappy with this wording in the intro. Are there ANY actual original gravestones there? The Raffi monument is either not original or is a partial recreation of the damaged original. All the "gravestones" visible in thep hotos seem to be just Soviet-period stone plaques with names and dates on them (spelt using the official Soviet spelling). Meowy 12:15, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
Source
editWe need to use pages for the following book:
- Karapetyan, Samvel (1998). The State Policy of Georgia and the Monuments of Armenian Culture (in Armenian). Yerevan.
Someone who owns it needs to confirm exactly which pages have been used from this book here. --92slim (talk) 14:07, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
- This is a link to an online free pdf version of the book on the publisher's website: http://www.raa-am.com/raa/pdf_files/23.pdf - and here's the book page which has the link: http://www.raa-am.com/raa/public/publish.php?clear=1&mid=5&more=1&cont=33&obid=66 --RaffiKojian (talk) 05:22, 27 July 2018 (UTC)