Talk:Kerb (disambiguation)

Kerb versus Curb

Relocated from Talk:Curb#Curb versus Kerb.

My understanding is that "kerb" and "curb" are the same word, just spelled differently in British and US english. However, the current state of the pages [[kerb]] and [[curb]] would seem to indicate that this is not the case. If they are just different spellings then I propose we harmonize the pages so that each pair of pages point to the same place:<nowiki> [[curb]] and [[kerb]]; [[curb (road)]] and [[kerb (road)]]; etc. I wouldn't care whether the ultimate page is kerb or curb i.e. [[curb]] as a redirect to [[kerb]] while [[kerb (road)]] redirects to [[curb (road)]] is fine with me. Ewlyahoocom 08:13, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

If it really troubles you, you could suggest moving [[kerb]] to peristalith and doing whatever you want with [[kerb]] and [[curb]]. Can't say I see any overwhelming need to change the current situation myself though. The Kerb article makes it clear that roadside feature enthusiasts can get their info from the US English spelling page and I prefer seeing spelling diversity in wiki titles rather than encouraging spelling homogenisation in either direction across The Atlantic. I find that adding bracketed descriptions to disambiguate is rarely satisfactory. adamsan 17:18, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

In standard English spoken and written in England, "kerb" is a noun meaning the edge of the pavement, whereas "curb" is a verb meaning "to restrain" (for example "to curb one's spending"). According to the dictionary, "curb" is also a noun meaning a restraint (perhaps an equestrian term). I think that the [[kerb]] page should be changed into a disambiguation page (like the [[curb]] disambiguation page), as they both have multiple meanings. NFH 21:42, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was don't move. —Nightstallion (?) ^{Seen this already?} 11:56, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Requested move

Kerb → Peristalith – less ambiguous, Kerb to eventually become a redirect to the disambiguation page at Curb, etc. — Ewlyahoocom 07:17, 14 April 2006 (UTC

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• Oppose - I support adamsan's comments in the discussion below. NFH 10:20, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
• I oppose but would consider other proposed schemes. See discussion below.adamsan 09:43, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Discussion

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One problem I have is that the current proposal assumes without any discussion that the wiki should make [[kerb]] a redirect, thereby automatically giving prominence to a US English spelling at the expense of a valid alternative on a more established page. Additionally, there is no reason for Kerb (meaning peristalith) to redirect to curb as the latter could not reasonably serve as a disambig for the former's entirely different spelling and meaning. If there really is an overwhelming need to change things (and again I stress that I can't see any practical reason to do so), it it seems to me that it would be more efficient to have Peristalith for the archaeoloical term, [[kerb]] for the roadside feature and curb for the guard or restraint (windmills and other machines have curbs as well as equestrian tracks and there is a potential article there). You'd need some 'see also's of course but that seems neater to me than shuttling readers to unintuitively-titled disambig pages. adamsan 09:43, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

I wouldn't say "without discussion": what little discussion there was is in the above section #Kerb versus Curb. True that this discussion was at Talk:Curb but the section heading and a link to discussion has been here for 2 weeks.

I guess I should have been more specific: "[[Kerb]] to '''eventually''' become a redirect to the disambiguation page at [[Curb]]" (I'll rephrase it above): first [[Curb]] will be updated to include kerb. I forsee it having 3 sections: shared meanings; curb only meanings; and kerb only meanings. ([http://m-w.com/dictionary/kerb Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary seems to indicate that kerb is purely an alternate spelling but some other searches seem to indicate differently). And oh yeah, any links to [[Kerb]] intending Peristalith will be updated as well. Is that more acceptable? Ewlyahoocom 11:15, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

I think we should use the distinct meanings of "kerb" and "curb" in their respective articles. The "kerb" article should be the edge of the pavement, whereas the "curb" article should be the restraint. In this way, we keep both spellings. At the beginning of the "kerb" article, we can point out that in the United States, it is spelt "curb". Standard English tends to have more distinct meanings between spellings than US English does. Something similar was done with the cheque article, which is the less common spelling in the US - the different spellings are used to disambiguate for all readers globally. NFH 11:25, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Merge proposal to new article Barrows (archaeology)

merge all the articles relating to barrows such as forecourt and this one into a combined comprehensive article. kerb becomes a section with in that topic Boris 23:42, 24 October 2006 (UTC)</nowiki>

I really want to delete this article or redirect to curb which i am sorley tempted to do Boris 12:06, 25 October 2006 (UTC)