Talk:Kargil order of battle

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You can't have a "Kargil Order of Battle" as Kargil is not a country (at least that is how I understand Order of Battles to work). The notability thing is still about what makes these particular Order of Battles important/significant enough for inclusion within an encyclopedia. Why is an intelligence report (which very well could be wrong) being considered a reliable source? Is there perhaps a better way to format the information so it is less a listing and more encyclopedic? Jasynnash2 (talk) 08:46, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I just saw the Kargil orbat and Jasynnash comment. First, you do not list an orbat by me and Mandeep Singh Bajwa as just another single source orbat. I am since `1971 the Grand Old Dad of Indian and Pakistani orbats, and since I have retired, Mandeep has taken over. There is little he or I dont know. And until the Indian army publishes a book on Kargil, you will not get another source. Nonetheless, the Kargil orbat is incomplete for various reasons I cant go into and I think that's made clear in our original article. And while Mandeep and I do make mistakes, given the mature of the job (and sometimes we have to deliberately obscure information) we aren't just another intel source! Of course, neither one of us posted this orbat on Wikipedia, someone else took it from something we wrote.

Second, Jasynnash, you can have an orbat for a country, a battle, or an operation. By their very nature, orbats are simple listings of units, there is never any other elaboration given. Military grade orbats, which we could not do on India and Pakistan because we'd be led off in handcuffs, differ from ours in this respect: a military grade orbat will have the manpower strength of each unit, as well a list of operational equipment. In the military, only the DMI/DMO will have a complete country orbat. Field formations are given the information they need to know, and generally sniffing for info on what another formation faces is liable to get you into trouble.

Hope this clarifies things. if anyone comes across other units, please do let us know on rikhye1@hotmail.com, but be sure to include the source (newspaper, magazine, uncle who served in the sector, etc) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.59.165.217 (talk) 00:26, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

It's Pakistan land Ali hamza ah (talk) 15:25, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

Hero of kargil

Hero of kargil Ali hamza ah (talk) 15:26, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

this is information website not isi propoganda asset. Refrain from self promotion Ankraj giri (talk) 15:23, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

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