Talk:Jay Leno/Archive 1

Archive 1

Archive 2

Jay and the French

I reverted the paragraph added about Leno's "deep disdain" for all things French. If the quote given is accurate, it's possible that some mention of a controversy regarding Leno's statements (if, indeed, there was such a controversy) might be appropriate. But the way this was worded was pretty hopeless (for example, "led the Anti-French campaign" -- what anti-French campaign)? Jgm 22:49, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Well I found this material by Leno on a Anti-Anti-French site. (miquelon.org)

It proves Leno was profoundly Anti-French, it also proves Jay can be quite spiteful when he can get away with it. Jay Leno Anti-French material

Unsigned, page history says 207.236.219.129 (talk · contributions) 23:09, Apr 4 2005 (UTC)

That site doesn't prove anything. Those quotes are jokes. Lighten up. –Matt 05:59, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Are racist jokes acceptable ? Are xenophobic jokes acceptable ? Are sexist jokes acceptable ? Are homophobic jokes acceptable ? Are religious jokes acceptable ? People targeted by such "jokes" will certainly not "Lighten up" as you would like to think! Matt is probably a white christian american straight male.

Why don't you sign your replies? First, I am an American straight male, but neither Christian nor white. Even I was Christian or white, I don't know what that was supposed to imply about me (maybe your racist belief that all straight white male Christians find racist jokes acceptable?). Second, the jokes in question are not racist. They are based on the fact that France did not support the U.S. in the war even though the U.S. helped France in WWII. If Tony Blair refused to help us, then Leno would have made jokes about the English as well. It has nothing to do with race and everything to do what Leno perceives to be cowardly actions by a particular nation. 21:27, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

You know whats a funny joke? That the US did NOT help the french, remotely as much as you would like. The US DEFENITELY, 100% did not declare war on Germany. GO LOOK THIS UP. GERMANY DECLARED WAR ON THE UNITED STATES. Is that clear enough? So, whatever "help" the french got, was clearly coming from the British and Poles (funny, why do we never hear surrender monkey jokes about the poles or the british?) who had already been fighting for 2-3 years. Not the "destroyers for bases" US. Taking credit for so much bullshit. As if you went to Europe to free it. Yeah, technically that would be a side effect of trying to keep a Soviet communist empire from forming or a Nazi fascist competitor.

213.141.89.53 02:18, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

I have reverted the section. The link provided in the page citation really doesn't "prove" anything (at least in the deconstructionist sense.) Leno has said on multiple occasions on The Tonight Show that Montreal, Canada is the "the most beautiful city in North America." Further, it can hardly be said that Leno is "well-known" for his purportedly anti-French comments; even if this were true, it would belong in a criticism section that would objectively explain points of contention about his comments, which are most likely tongue-in-cheek. Summarily, as it has been written, the section is a POV-ridden, vanity entry and does not seem to fit in an encyclopedic article about this particular person. Perhaps supporters of this section should find further references for the existence of a controversy about Leno's remarks; see Francophobia and Anti-French sentiment in the United States for what may be a more appropriate forum for a mention. 69.166.17.41

Nice job. -- Mac Davis ญƛ.11:09, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

See http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:82.153.101.34

For about two years after 911 Leno spinelessly followed in the footsteps of Dennis Miller and because a fairweather neocon hawk. When Bush's approval ratings started slipping again, he mysteriously reverted to his previous apolitical stance.

Jay Leno is a patented francophobe. It's not his bread and butter but he made anti-French jokes based on lies, cliches and misconceptions that are quite dangerous. For him to say that the French were all collaborationist and that there were only 4 people in the French Resistance is wrong on so many accounts. A French-American group even offered him books to "educate" him on the matter. He refused. Bashing the French constantly is a proof of bigotry. Insultant jokes end up being unfunny quite rapidly. I do not see any issue with exposing Leno for the bigot that he is. --216.143.120.140 19:47, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

I suppose you have proof of this offer that you're willing to share. Just because someone makes jokes about someone else doesn't mean the first person hates the second. I'm part French, but I find the jokes about the French funny.

I guess its the bullshit part of you thats french then? I'm not french at all, and I dont find repeated exaggerations and outright lies about a situation that has been a lie since the start. Why no British surrender monkey/retreat monkey jokes? Why no polish? Why no checz? Yeah... Because the situation is actually just the opposite of what people in the US wants to paint it out to be.

The simple question that needs to be answered is. Why did the US go into Europe during ww2? The answer is self-preservation & the germans had declared war & and in case the Soviets would be winning. Not to save Europe.

213.141.89.53 02:23, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Picture?

Is this the best picture of Jay we could find to use on this page? It looks like he's eating a peanut butter sandwich or something.

I like it. He looks kinda goofy, the picture makes you want to laugh. –Matt 06:02, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

This picture sucks change it.

I think it should definitely stay.. -- Mac Davis ญƛ.11:09, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Support (even though we're not voting). Keep the picture, it's awesome. Mithridates 06:54, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Does anyone know his eye color? I'm working on a Leno mii.

You have got to be kidding me. The picture is definately not encyclopedia-appropriate in any case I can't believe there isn't a better one.--194.44.48.4 (talk) 14:53, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

I also think the picture should be changed. He looks angry in this picture. Shouldn't the picture be something that represents him as a person, say a smile? At the very least it should be neutral. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.31.212.2 (talk) 21:36, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree...there is another picture that was used previously that was better, but I believe it had part of the "Tonight Show" logo in it, so I don't know if that would be considered outdated. --Susan118 ^talk 03:09, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

He doesn't have kids?

I could have swore Jay Leno had a daughter. I remember him saying it on the show once, saying he had a daughter and it seemed like he meant it seriously. And I came on here and read that he didn't - what the heck? :|

Nope--I believe that when he and Mavis got married, they agreed never to have children (acc. to The Late Shift by Bill Carter). He does have a niece who's a musician, however. Telestylo 07:55, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Maybe you're thinking of the times when David Letterman talks about his kids. -- Mac Davis ญƛ.11:09, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Jay Leno has one kid, and that wasnt till like a year and half ago. But im guessing the Leno's can't have kids and are using that as a cover

Leno better have some kids fast; he needs someone to pass down his comedic genius to when he dies! Armyrifle 02:08, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

no kids

Jay leno has no children, period 24.65.87.238 (talk) 23:50, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism

What is it with the constant vandalism of this article? — JIP | Talk 19:14, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

November 11, 2006 I notice a vandalism in the introduction.

It's been vandalized again. His guest mentioned Wikipedia vandalism on his episode tonight and low and behold, someone came here and vandalized his page. It is too much to remove and it won't let me undo the edits. If someone wants to fix it, go ahead. Hopefully and admin can revert the article back to whatever it was before the vandalism. Also they should lock the page to at least registered users. Airiox (talk) 05:21, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Republican?

Is Jay Leno Republican or Democrat? I've heard him make fun of both. He's niether.

Not sure if he is registered as either, or if it belongs on the article. But his support of Arnold Schwarzenegger might be worth mentioningSjt81 08:13, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

DevorahLeah (talk) 07:43, 7 April 2008 (UTC) I have quotes from him (which I'll be adding) where he says he is a member of neither party. But he notes with amusement that the Democrats think he's a Republican every time he has a major Republican guest, and Republicans accuse him of being pro-Democrats when he had a major Democratic guest. He perceives himself as a moderate. His wife is a Democrat.

Why does Jay Leno always makes fun of LGBT people?

On the Tonight Show, Jay almost every night has a LGBT joke. Expectially ones about the movie Brokeback Mountain. I am starting to wonder if he hates LGBT people. Does anyone agree? No.--Dil 05:03, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

This is best discussed at message board elsewhere. This page is just for discussing the article's content. --Rob 05:15, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Brokeback Mountain is a movie. He made fun of a movie. 75.16.254.103 (talk) 04:45, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

He makes fun of everybody. Why should anybody be exempt? And keep in mind, he's missing his writers, so he's got to grasp for any straw. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 05:06, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Helen Kushnick

I think Leno's despicable treatment of Helen Kushnick belongs on this page, but my two efforts have been deleted as vandalism. Would someone else care to try to write a treatment with less venom than mine? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.197.214.38 (talk • contribs) .

I removed it because you keep putting the dancing on the grave thoing on it. - Mike Beckham 21:17, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Please can we get a semi protection for this article?

• Look at edit history, Reverts everywhere for some reason, can I request Temp Semi Protection? - Mike Beckham 17:57, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
  • I think you have to ask at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. I think they normally only do short term protection though (for a case like this). --Rob 18:04, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Dyslexia

When watching The Tonight Show just about last week, Jay was interviewing a guest, and quietly told him that he's dyslexic. Is there any verifiability to this? --Antoshi 05:16, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

He's mentioned that he's dyslexic many times on the show. Leno himself confirms it. What more verification would you need? 21:27, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

DevorahLeah (talk) 07:45, 7 April 2008 (UTC) I have quotes from numerous newspaper and magazine interviews where he comes out and says he has dyslexia. He also says his mother advised him that he would have to work twice as hard to succeed. I'll be adding all of this when I re-write the segment on his early years.

In the article we see, "During an August 1, 2007, interview with CNN journalist Anderson Cooper on The Tonight Show, Leno confirmed that he is dyslexic.[citation needed]" Anyone care to explain why a citation would be needed when the statement itself is a citation? Hal (talk) 04:03, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Since no one spoke up, edited the recursive "citation needed" on a citation out Hal (talk) 01:47, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

The Taliban: for or against?

Can someone be more explicit in the sentence:

"Since 1980, Leno has been married to Mavis Leno, who is known for her work with Afghan women under the Taliban."

Is she a "woman under the Taliban"? what does she do for them? Does she help the Taliban, or help circumvent them? Gronky 16:13, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

No, Mavis Leno is just a prominent feminist. 21:27, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Mavis Leno has worked to raise awareness of persecution faced by women under Taliban rule. It is highly commendable work, and she seems like a wonderful person. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.148.71.175 (talk) 22:28, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Scottish mother?

Is my mother really Scottish, or just Scottish-American? Mad Jack O'Lantern 07:36, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

References

Shouldn't there be a section on where he's been referenced by other people/groups, whether in pop culture or wherever? Or should stuff like that just go in his trivia section.Toaraga 03:33, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Tonight Show earnings

Does anyone have citation from Leno's statement when he was on an episode of Inside The Actor's Studio and stated that he has not touched one cent of his Tonight Show earnings? He stated that he still lives off his standup earnings because he said that his original profession was a comedian and not a personality.

I have heard him mention it when he came back from the writers strike. He says it's because he is paranoid that his money will dry up or something. He said all the money he spends is from his stand up comedy and plays at least a 100 shows a year. So it's true, but don't have a citation. Airiox (talk) 05:12, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

• I found another source where he says that, and I'll add it to the article. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 01:02, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Stand-up Career

This article barely says anything about Leno's stand-up career, or most of the 80s, a time in which Leno was a very successful comedian. I don't know anything about him, but someone who does should write a large enough section on his stand-up career. 75pickup (talk · contribs) 05:27, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

DevorahLeah (talk) 07:47, 7 April 2008 (UTC)If I can just clear out the time in the next couple of days, I have a massive amount of information about his high school, college, and early stand-up days. I'll add it.

Books

Leno's memoir, Leading with my Chin, was a bestseller. He's also published multiple volumes of "Headlines". This article needs a section detailing, or at least listing, the books he's written over the years. MosKillinest 04:18, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Jay Leno is very cute

Chin

I'm surprised this article doesn't have a section all about the chin. I mean, come on. It's his defining feature. I'm not going to do it, though. Eris Discord | Talk 04:32, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Sitcom Apperances

Jay Leno appeared as himself on Home Improvement, not as a mechanic. Tim sells his hotrod to Jay for a large sum, then buys a beater Jay is keeping in his garage. This should be edited and streamlined with the article.

I ate a potato chip the other day that looked alot like him-with th chin (69.129.105.58 23:00, 28 April 2007 (UTC))

haha

he also appeared in Overhaulin --Andersmusician $ 17:54, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Tim didn't sell the hotrod to Jay's character on that Home Improvement episode. He sold it to someone else and Jay's character was just some guy who worked for the dude that bought it. I don't know if he was a mechanic, but that is the impression I got. I used to be a huge Home Improvement fan and have watched every episode probably 20 times. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.168.226.219 (talk) 21:21, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Leno and Retirement

Is Jay actually retiring, or being pushed aside in favor of Conan? He's made some jokes the last couple of weeks on the show that kind of make it feel like he's not getting a choice in the matter. RyanGrant 02:15, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Citation

The citation of "Jay Leno presented Microsoft Windows 95 on Grand Opening of Microsoft Windows 95 on August 24, 1995" is video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9ifQvQCO7Y, second 28 - do you see Jay Leno there? I see. Kubek15 - Talk, Userboxes, Contributions 14:27, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Leno is shown shaking hands for about 1 second, it hardly qualifies as proof of him "presenting" it. -- Bdoserror (talk) 22:35, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

I found video of two minutes of Windows 95 Launch: http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=DeBi2ZxUZiM . Kubek15 - Talk, Userboxes, Contributions 14:11, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Deletion of Criticism Section Reverted

Just want to inform everyone that I have reverted the edit made that deleted Jay Leno's Criticism section. There was no reason to delete it. Polarbear97 (talk) 05:03, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Criticism section had been deleted again, on 25 March 2008, edit 200724988. I have reverted that edit, since there was no apparent reason for deleting it. 199.102.9.67 (talk) 21:10, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

The vandalism of the criticism needs to be reverted AGAIN! I am offended that someone is trying to hide criticisms of Jay Leno. He has no qualms about getting political attacking undocumented immigrants on his show, so when valid criticisms come out about a feud with George Lopez and that he admitted he mistook his former touring partner Paul Rodriguez for George Lopez when he sought to apologize, that's news! I read about it on three sources, but when I read one referencing Wikipedia and came to see, I found it wasn't on wikipedia!!! Then I saw the comments and saw it keeps getting deleted from here. See the new york daily news, rush and molloy. http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/rush_molloy/2007/05/03/2007-05-03_comedian_feels_hurt_by_latin_flubber_len.html

Is he having his people pathetically edit his own page?

That is unethical vandalism. Celebrities can be criticized. Those who make a living attacking people have little to argue from taking some heat themselves. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.106.37.4 (talk) 11:11, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

CRITICISMS DELETED IMMEDIATELY??? What is the source and basis to delete an entire criticism section as opposed to specific sections for specific reasons? Criticism sections can be edited on a case by case basis, not with intent to prevent criticism of a public figure. 71.106.37.4 (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 06:48, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

I have copied criticisms now so we keep some sort of criticisms as other wiki pages have kept, in case of total removal of the entire criticisms section. Studentteacher1 (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 03:24, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

A criticism section seems unnecessary, but I notice it was just added again. Do we really need to include things like "Letterman called him a pinhead"? --Susan118 (talk) 15:37, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

The back-and-forth on this is really getting ridiculous. That week it was protected was great, too bad it can't be like that all the time. I admit that I had said a criticism section was unnecessary; since then I removed or fixed statements that were POV and unsourced, or incorrectly sourced, but I agree the rest of it should stay. (I never removed the section). The constant removal of the section by people who don't care to explain their actions is getting out of hand.--Susan118 (talk) 14:55, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

More of this sort of thing down below at #Criticism section blanking again. --Closeapple (talk) 06:34, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Criticisms Discussions on what is appropriate to partial-block

Obviously criticisms are getting deleted repeatedly, and let us assume good faith, but open discussions to what should be kept as appropriate, verifiable, neutral point of view on criticisms or controversies over Jay Leno. One user previously edited controversies section with reasonable explanation that some material was not sourced for what made it controversial, which we can agree based on wikiquette and guidelines on biographies that great care should be taken to adhere to high standards on biographical information on real people. So let's open up a discussion on what is appropriate to include as criticisms or controversies about Jay Leno in order to preven any edit wars. Studentteacher1 (talk) 06:20, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

real words

Is legendarily even a word? Even if it is, it sounds awkward.

Yes, it is a word. The OED records its use back to 1961; there's no other adverb form of legendary. And I'm not sure how else to word it, so I wouldn't bother changing it.

Having said that, the parenthetical in which it is looks unsourced, and of questionable notability even if it is sourced. I propose it should be deleted, especially since this is a BLP. Carl.bunderson (talk) 00:11, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

I went ahead and removed it altogether. Carl.bunderson (talk) 05:57, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

jay lenos mom was from scottland but was sent to america and raised in a brothal. his dad was an italian. both have died. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kalebv (talk • contribs) 03:47, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

DevorahLeah (talk) 07:49, 7 April 2008 (UTC) Umm, his mother was raised in a brothel? You're joking. She had relatives in the US, and while she had a tough childhood, due largely to poverty, she was hardly a resident of a brothel. It is true that his mom, Catherine, was from Scotland, and his dad, Angelo was of Italian descent.

He Also

"He also..." "He also..." "He also..." "He also" "Also, he..." "Also, he..." "He also..." Can't someone fix this poor writing? HE ALSO! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.49.252.53 (talk) 14:15, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Letterman... hellooooo!

Seems pretty odd that there is NO mention of the multiple times Jay appeared on Letterman's show, which as Leno himself admits really got him where he is today. He mentioned his Letterman appearances recently when Mike Myers was on. Seems to me it's not LENO who hates Letterman, but his fans want to erase any evidence that the two were ever friends, or that Letterman has done anything to help Jay. Sad, really. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.254.10.180 (talk) 20:21, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

After tonight show rumors

Should there be at least a mention of the rumors that his career may not end with the tonight show. I read in an article that he has been contacted by Fox and ABC about having a show on one of there networks. He also has made jokes about it on the show, such as a headline saying that you can see the tonight show on ABC and saying it is like an article from the future, or when the insult dog came and mentioned it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Not G. Ivingname (talk • contribs) 15:30, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Nicest guy in hollywood

Its' been widely written about that Jay is the nicest guy in hollywood, or one of the nicest. When Tim Russert passed away, comparisons were made that Russert was the nicest guy in journalism, and that Jay is the nicest guy in entertainment (Larry King, Foxnews). There should be a section mentioning this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.187.210.90 (talk) 03:53, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Encyclopedias try not to write about opinion, even if it's widely held opinion. I would suggest not mentioning this: if you really insist then we need reliable sources stating that this is a widely held opinion. DJ Clayworth (talk) 17:04, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

"Encyclopedias try not to write about opinion, even if it's widely held opinion." Citation needed, please. Preferably from a non-recursive Wikipedia source. Hal (talk) 08:12, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Bullies and Leno

Some mention needs to be made about how Leno was heavily bullied during his school years because of his big chin and his dyslexia; a feat that he often jokes about these days.Zorro444 (talk) 09:49, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Got sources? Carl.bunderson (talk) 03:55, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

No children, and the interview

From the Biography section: "Though married for many years, he has no children, as mentioned in his July 9, 2008, interview with Aaron Eckhart."
I have 2 remarks.
1. Would you need an interview to verify a simple fact like that?
2. IMHO, "they have no children" would be better than "he has no children".
Would anyone agree and care to fix this? Thanks Kvsh5 (talk) 15:38, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

1)Yes. The interview can be used as a reference: it shouldn't me mentioned in the text.

2) No. There is a difference between he has no children and they have no children. He might have children by another woman. DJ Clayworth (talk) 17:03, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Don't you think saying they have no children sounds more like "neither of them have children (at all)" (which sounds like the case, anyway)? --Susan118 (talk) 16:04, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Acting Cameos and voiceovers

This is the longest section of the article, yet it starts with "Leno is not well known as an actor". Basicly it's too detailed. Needs to be cut down to a mention or two. DJ Clayworth (talk) 13:14, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Protection?

There is a semi-protect logo on this page, but anonymous users are still vandalising: does anyone know wht is wrong with the protection? Jomunro (talk) 23:24, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Protection expired. Someguy1221 (talk) 07:03, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

jokes

Can I talk about his Detroit Lions jokes? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.122.214.130 (talk) 04:32, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Is there a source to say he's known/criticized for making fun of the Lions or is that your personal opinion? Someguy1221 (talk) 05:58, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

"Lives off of his savings from his Late Night earnings"

Why is this even stated in the article? Was there speculation that he worked for FREE all of these years? --98.119.174.110 (talk) 22:19, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Citation for DOB

Do we have a citation for his DOB? If it's accepted by the community, then a citation should be easy to find. I will start looking as well. Thanks! Plastikspork (talk) 04:29, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

http://www.tv.com/jay-leno/person/2431/summary.html Belasted (talk) 04:46, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

TV.com may work, but I will have to check to see how they get their content. By the way, please remove any facts using IMDB as a citation. IMDB takes info from fans with no fact checking: Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 17#Is IMDb a reliable source?. Thanks for searching! Plastikspork (talk) 04:59, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

This page is not inspiring confidence. It looks like they get their content the same way that IMDB gets it, from fans. Plastikspork (talk) 05:02, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Problem solved. I added a reference from the New York Times. Plastikspork (talk) 22:33, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Brother, Patrick, Veteran???

There's a note in the article that says Leno had a brother Patrick who was a veteran... but the reference doesn't mention that at all. What gives?

This statement tends to show up verbatim in a lot of online "sources," but those seem mostly to be a regurgitation of the Wikipedia article. 842U (talk) 12:49, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Guidelines for WP:BLP would say remove it unless someone can find a WP:RS. Plastikspork (talk) 15:19, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Jay's Parents

Jay's mom was a homemaker (did not work in the film business) and his father was an insurance salesman for Prudential. This can be sourced by his memoir, "Leading with My Chin." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.58.189.187 (talk) 03:41, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Jay's brother

Is a vietnam veteran who went to Yale Law School....He passed away in 2005 as mentioned in Jay's interview on Bravo's "Inside the Actor's Studio." He has also mentioned his brother on the TNT Show. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.58.189.187 (talk) 03:43, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Picture

What was wrong with the previous picture that it needed to be replaced with the current one? --Susan118 (talk) 14:35, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

there was nothing wrong with it, someone just did. Someguy1221 (talk) 22:26, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Good, then hopefully no one minds if I change it back...--Susan118 (talk) 15:55, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Jay Leno and the Catholic League

I noticed that Leno had often been critcized by the Catholic League for allegedly offensive comments. I'm not sure it's notable in the article per se, but there is a substantial and long-lasting dossier about Leno's problems with the League. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] ADM (talk) 23:50, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Medical emergency

I don't really see why this should be in this article. It seems speculative right now since there is no official word on the cause only that it is nothing major and he is expected to return to work. I suggest the article be reverted back and the medical parts removed. I'll poll for input from others first before I do any actions. --Jroesslein (talk) 02:52, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

I agree. In the whole scheme of things, it does not seem like it is something worth noting in an encylopedia. I think it just attracted so much attention because of his reputation for not often taking time off. --Susan118 (talk) 03:49, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Agreed. I started trying to revert to something very brief, e,g, a one line statement, but so many people are coming to the page to post the same stuff it was getting ridiculous. I basically gave up since I don't want to engage in an edit war. Plastikspork (talk) 04:12, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

And WHY is this story ABOVE the table of contents? 24.98.20.220 (talk) 04:40, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Agreed, I've removed it from the lead. --Bongwarrior (talk) 04:56, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

I see it made its way back up there again; now that it's semi-protected I moved that section to the bottom of the bio section, and added an update. Originally I didn't see a need to include the info, but the fact that it's the only time he's canceled shows in 17 years seems to make it at least somewhat notable.--Susan118 (talk) 02:35, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

My Classic Car and Dennis Gage

Is there a reason there's no mention of My Classic Car? Jay makes one or two appearances each season on there. (Occasionally rerun segments from previous seasons). Before I add a mention, I thought perhaps someone might know more details about those segments (e.g. perhaps Jay Leno invests in the series or its production company; Jay and Dennis may or may not be as good friends as suggested by the segments, etc.).--SportWagon (talk) 22:14, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Redone

This article really needs to be redone. I'll start working on something, if you guys would like to contribute, let me know. -Cam^T|C 04:44, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm curious what you think needs to be "redone" and why we should let you know if we want to contribute. Anyone can contribute at any time. --Susan118 ^talk 04:52, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

First, I think you should drop your attitude. The organization of this page is terrible, nothing is in context. And yea, I understand anyone can contribute, but if someone takes on the responsibility to revamp a page, it pays off to collaborate with other people instead of throwing things in and hoping they go well. -Cam^T|C 22:54, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Your original statement sounded very much as if you had the intention to rewrite the entire article, and that anyone who wanted any input, should let YOU know. I wanted to see if I had perhaps read you wrong, and I thought that was basically a rather polite way of asking. Perhaps my last sentence, while true, came off a bit wrong. Frankly your response wasn't any better. I was asking a simple honest question and stating facts, if that prompts accusations of having an "attitude", that is not exactly conducive to good collaboration.

I'm not interested in arguing over this, hopefully we can all just get along and work together, I have no issues with anyone on Wikipedia and do not plan to start now. I have a real life I can stress out about if I want stress.--Susan118 ^talk 08:13, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Okay, let's cool. I agree that the article needs some reorganization (just some copyediting, not a whole makeover), and I'll go ahead and do some work on it now. I'll post my diff here when finished if anyone would like to comment. K? Great. — ^{`</sup>CRAZY`(lN)`SANE<sup>`} 08:35, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

I've done an entire reorganization of the structure of the article, including removal of the uncited sections using conditional comment code so that they can be easily re-added if sources are provided. My diff is here, feel free to comment about or improve upon my edits if you like. Thanks. — ^{`</sup>CRAZY`(lN)`SANE<sup>`} 10:11, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

New Picture Needed?

The pic is not only from 2006, but it's a BAD picture. Anyone agree that Jay Leno deserves a better picture? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.53.245.197 (talk) 02:45, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

1030

jay i dont do anything at 1030pm. you are gone, i have being watching the tonight cent 1964, i dn't like the guy he not funny, and i don't watch dave.. these two guys very boo-boo.. you and johnny are the same very funny you and boo-boo.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.193.29.128 (talk) 04:36, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Criticism section blanking again

Jay Leno#Criticism has been blanked 42 times since the beginning of March: most of them by dynamic Verizon Wireless IPs, but several in March and then 2009-08-06 by 68.177.47.4 (talk) (assigned to Auditory Systems, Santa Clarita, California, same as March blanking). Seems like the same single-person crusade as discussed in #Deletion of Criticism Section Reverted above. Howard Stern's complaint is unbalanced: appearing to claim that Jay Leno stole a bit from Stern that has seems very similar to "man on the street" interviews that have used in some form (albeit fictional) on The Tonight Show as far back as Steve Allen. So I'm going to ditch Stern's unchecked ego, move the WGA strike note into the section for The Tonight Show, and see if a lack of separate section makes our little vandal go away. If it doesn't, time for some heavier defense, like page protection or administrator intervention, I'd say. --Closeapple (talk) 06:34, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Background?

The article jumps directly from 1973 to 1992, with a brief mention of standup in the late 70's. Surely someone must know what he was up to during those 19 years. And although there's a separate article for the Tonight Show, Leno's page doesn't even mention anything that happened before 2004. Considering the amount of activity on the talk page, it's a pretty weak article.

Then again, I'm not exactly doing much to help. I'm not even registered 24.235.156.135 (talk) 00:27, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

No mention of Mr. Leno's heritage???

There seems to be no mention of Mr. Leno's heritage anywhere in the article, nor is the article on him categorized in any of categories pertaining to Americans of different ethnicities. I believe he's of both Italian and Scottish descent. --Legion (talk) 04:25, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Never mind. Just found paragraph describing his parent and where they came from. My bad. This article should still be categorized in both Italian American and Scottish American categories, though. --Legion (talk) 04:28, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Picture

That main picture looks like he has something wrong with him. There has got to be a better one somewhere. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.186.141.46 (talk) 03:13, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

• Yeah, that photo is pretty bad. But, you know, with all that is going on his life right now, I bet he is pretty stressed! Let's give him a good, college-style break. I will try and get a good picture of him the next time I'm on his show (once they get the time squared away). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.206.138.33 (talk) 01:56, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Leno returning to Tonight Show

i think the page needs to be locked until everything is official regarding the rumor that jay will return to the tonight show due to poor ratings on the jay leno show. TNAisCAGE (talk) 04:16, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

• It will be pretty lame if he kicks Conan out of the slot, so we ought to make sure that this entry is really watched closely! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.206.138.33 (talk) 01:55, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm surprised the Conan fanboys haven't vandalized this page to the point of requiring semi-protection. --24.189.90.68 (talk) 05:21, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

It is actually; an admin protected it but did not add the lock template. Andrewlp1991 (talk) 05:24, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

I knew it was too good to be true when I didn't see the padlock at the top of the page. --24.189.90.68 (talk) 05:29, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Jay Leno early stand-up

Jay Leno stand-up on Freddie Prinze and Friends 1976

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHyGFQFAT8Q —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.112.102.245 (talk) 03:27, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Jay Leno in 2004: "In '09, Conan, it's yours"

Jay Leno in 2004: "In '09, Conan, it's yours" - a most interesting analysis. Has some text info from Jay Leno's original announcement in 2004 about planning to leave The Tonight Show in 2009. Cirt (talk) 08:31, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Here's the video clip...what a weasel: http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/6d1caacad1/jay-s-2004-announcement98.224.76.31 (talk) 12:17, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Why are we ignoring reality

I am not sure if it has something to do with the Connan fans, but why are we denying that Jay is returning to Tonight? The article is very weak, claiming that the situation "has not been worked out". Multiple news outlets (people, CBS, the Washington Post, etc) are claiming that Conan is out and Jay is back. Can someone please update this article? http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6100113n —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.154.125.135 (talk) 20:10, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Doritos

I noticed there is no mention of the fact that Jay Leno was a spokes person early in his career for the Doritios brand tortilla chip. Do you think this should be added to his Early career section or Trivia section?

I remember seeing one of those commercials on YouTube. Put in the early career section. Karrmann (talk) 22:57, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Me too I remember the Doritios commericals he did. I've got some of his commercials of him doing the Doritios chips on videotape.Shkarter1985 (talk) 23:09, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

I don't see an "early career " section, but perhaps you were saying to add it early in the "career" section. If it's been done, I missed it in perusing the article. I agree it would be worth a sentence.--75.4.27.220 (talk) 10:24, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

It's official

Jay is returning to Tonight effective March 1. Why doesn't the article say that? http://www.thewrap.com/ind-column/new-nbc-breaking-story-13241 141.154.125.135 (talk) 18:15, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Not enough of his audience has been to this newfangled "internet".

Why is there a protected category?

Who ever put this article this page on Jay Leno protected is a Disgrace to Wikipedia. It's time to put the free back in the 'free encyclopedia'Shkarter1985 (talk) 22:59, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

I hate the padlocks on the templates.

Yes, the little firestorm of the late night wars is over. Conan is off the air. Leno will be hosting the Tonight Show again. Are we really worried that anonymous Coco-fanatics are so incensed as to vandalize a Leno page after it's all over? Please remove the padlock as it hurts the tenets of Wikipedia to have it present when not absolutely necessary.--75.4.27.220 (talk) 10:36, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Laugh - the contracts may be signed and the deal done, but it is certainly not over, at least on Wikipedia. The sudden swarm of Conan O'Brien pictures suddenly arriving on Wiki's Files for Deletion for proposed Speedy Deletion -- every single picture in the article -- should testify to that. (Don't worry. I don't have a Wiki account, but I would never vandalise an article. The idea is anathema. My view has always been to say what exists, not take a sledgehammer to the reporting.) - Tenebris

jay leno has vandalized 32 vehicles in his lifetime —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dragondragondan (talk • contribs) 15:45, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Leno Letterman Opera Superbowl TV Advert

Assuming that this event needs mention on Leno's page, and IMO I think not, the current phrase addressing it is completely misplaced by being under the "Criticism of Leno” section, and additionally, it seems tagged onto a sentence that is unrelated so that the sentence reads terribly. For ease of reference it appears under that section thusly:

Bill Zehme, the co-author of Leno's autobiography Leading with My Chin, told the LA Times: "The thing Leno should do is walk, period. He's got everything to lose in terms of public popularity by going back. People will look at him differently. He'll be viewed as the bad guy,"[46] and two weeks later, appeared alongside Winfrey and his television rival David Letterman in an ad for Late Show with David Letterman that aired during the Super Bowl. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.4.202.97 (talk) 02:11, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Criticism of Leno section

I know there is mention of the 2010 Tonight Show controversy and criticism, but why not mention the controversy that he faced back in the early 90's against Letterman? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.27.37.186 (talk) 19:39, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Wry

I just want to note that I find it amazing that this article is protected until February of NEXT YEAR. It's a testament to how controversial this genial big-chinned goof has unwittingly become. --TenInchPianist (talk) 22:59, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

1992 Carson succession controvercy removed?

Why has that been removed? There is not a single word about Letterman in this article. At least, current Leno-Letterman relations need to be covered. After the Superbowl commercial, Leno called Letterman "my old friend", and said the years of animosity went away. However, from Letterman's interviews, it's clear that Lettermen doesn't share that view (calling Leno "a bit of a knockwurst", for example). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.16.33.86 (talk) 08:33, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Considering how much of the article covers the 2010 Tonight Show conflict I agree that this should be restored, especially since the material concerning the 2010 matter references the earlier conflict. tildetildetildetilde —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.164.69.63 (talk) 03:57, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Tonight Show stealing D*ckhead?

It appears that "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonight_Show_stealing_Dickhead" redirects to this wikipedia article. Vandalism? (Unless, he's really calling himself that. I haven't seen Leno since the reclamation.) Judacris (talk) 12:33, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

I've marked it for speedy deletion. -DoctorW 05:05, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Still too much material on 2010 O'Brien-Leno incident

There is still too much material on the 2010 O'Brien-Leno incident. It has its own article, at 2010 Tonight Show conflict. I carefully pruned the less relevant material in a grossly bloated section, but more trimming is needed. Someone else please have a go. -DoctorW 05:05, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps both subsections, "Criticism of Leno" and "Support for Leno", should be deleted, leaving only the following:

Leno has faced heated criticism and some negative publicity for his perceived role in the 2010 Tonight Show timeslot conflict. Leno said that the situation was "all business."

Any material not already in the main article can be moved there. -DoctorW 05:21, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Sourced info that was unilaterally removed

Leno's poor ratings performance after the 2010 Tonight Show conflict is directly relevant, and should not be removed from this article. -- Cirt (talk) 15:45, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

/* WCW Wrestling */

No mention of his work with WCW? Even as a footnote? Disappointing. 75.76.65.246 (talk) 11:32, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Spouse?

Someone put Jay Leno's spouse as Miley Cyrus... FIX IT! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.65.224.219 (talk) 02:34, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Poliltical affiliation?

Why is it that most Democrat actors don't have "political affiliation" anywhere in their page, yet some Republican actors, like Adam Sandler has a special heading and its also in the table of facts? If you don't want Wikipedia to seem tilted to the left, then it's time to add this to all the Democrat actors or remove the Republican part from the Republican actors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.102.219.239 (talk) 16:52, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

I just did a quick search and found more left tilt. Look at Stephen Baldwin, of course talking about giving to a few Republicans, and that he said he'd move to Canada if Obama was elected, but then look at Alec Baldwin, no mention at all of his political givings, even though he gives to multitudes of Democrats, and then the extreme liberal tilt if Wikipedia is that Alec was the one that started the "move to Canada" crap when he said he'd move to Canada if Bush was elected and there's no mention of that in the Alec article. Hmmm. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.102.219.239 (talk) 17:01, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

Notice Kelsey Grammer listed as a Republican. Looking at Mel Gibson and Danny Glover pages makes me laugh too. Glover is an extreme liberal Democrat that supports dictators Chavez and Castro, none of that noted even once, and Mel Gibson is listed as an ultraconservative. Shall I go on? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.102.219.239 (talk) 17:07, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

Leno Facts

According to "The Globe" Leno, considered a bit fruity hasn't comsumed a vegetable since 1969. He is just as particular about salads, not having one for a decade. Also, not to mention, Jay Leno also stars more than twice in The Fairly Oddparents TV series as the Crimson Chin, also being chosen as the Crimson Chin because of his "good-looking" chin.

Jay Leno and Conan O'Brien

"Leno announced that Late Night host Conan O'Brien will replace him." No wonder I never hear Conan O'Brien making jokes about Jay. September 1st, 2005

He's made plenty of jokes about jay.

Great expansion

Last time I saw this article (maybe just over a month ago..?..) it was about one fifth of its current size and had only one image. Good work to all involved. 144.134.145.8

Vandalism

For a partial list of the cars in his collection, see: Jay Leno's cars.

Spider-Man

I'm new to Wikipedia, so I don't know if this hould be added, but Leno appears on page 4 of Amazing Spider-Man #332, and he teamed up with the web-slinger back in 2002: [[6]]

Bio box for Jay Leno

Bio box showed Leno's day of death as July 25, 2007 for a while there... It's gone now.

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