Talk:J. Paul Getty/Archives/2014

Latest comment: 11 years ago by IfYouDoIfYouDon't in topic Getty Ethnicity

J. Paul Getty Diaries

It might be of interest to the Wikipedia audience to know that some of J. Paul Getty's diaries have recently been acquired and digitized by the Institutional Archives of the J. Paul Getty Trust. It might be helpful to place links to the digitized diaries and to a description of Mr. Getty's papers in the external links section of the article. Since I am an employee of the Institutional Archives, Wikipedia may consider it a conflict of interest for me to post these links, but they are interesting primary resources that are available to the public. Below I provide links to some information about these primary resources.

Blog post announcing the digitization of the diaries: http://blogs.getty.edu/iris/a-look-inside-j-paul-getty-newly-digitized-diaries/

J. Paul Getty diaries are digitized and available online here: http://hdl.handle.net/10020/2010.ia.16

J. Paul Getty Family collected papers are accessible in person at the Getty Research Institute. More information here:

http://blogs.getty.edu/iris/j-paul-getty-the-early-years/

http://archives2.getty.edu:8082/xtf/view?docId=ead/IA40009/IA40009.xml

Cyndi Shein (talk) 19:29, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Well... It's been about three weeks since I posted this information. Since no one has responded to this discussion point I will post external links to the article myself. Cyndi Shein (talk) 17:36, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Untitled

Hey, Chadloder, your edit seems to have disappeared from the history. Could you restore it? -- Zoe


Birth and death dates: http://www.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthisday/bday/1215.html Carax 03:28, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Company Purchases during Great Depression Possibly Wrong

The wiki article says, "Shrewdly investing his resources during the Great Depression, Getty acquired Pacific Western Oil Corporation, and he began the acquisition (completed in 1953) of the Mission Corporation, which included Tidewater Oil and Skelly Oil. In 1967 the billionaire merged these holdings into Getty Oil."

However, in Getty's book, How to be Rich, he states that his buying campaign started directly against Tide Water Associated Oil Company in March 1932 with a purchase of 1,200 stock. By 1933 he was on the board and control was completed in 1953 (as above).

The control of Mission Corporation was gained during his campaign for Tide Water in 1937, which was before control was gained of Tide Water and, crucially, prior to World War II. Mission Corp. owned 57% of Skelly Oil, which in turn had a subsidiary called Spartan Aircraft Corporation. It's this company that Getty transformed for the US war effort. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.42.95.83 (talk) 21:50, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Caught or not?

ON the kidnapped grandson's page it says that the kidnappers were never found. Which is it?--85.225.43.96 17:05, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Also that he only paid $2million, not the full $17m. -- Beardo 12:32, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Getty Ethnicity

Why isn't Getty's ethnicity recorded here as ethnicity is so often listed on biographical Wikipages? He seems to have been German or partly so, like many Americans.

It is said that his mother was a German, Catharine Risher, in a lower paragraph on this page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.145.71.78 (talk) 13:25, 25 March 2011 (UTC)


The opening sentence ("Jean Paul Getty ... was an Anglo-American industrialist.") seems to be unjustified in its use of "Anglo-American". If Getty's origin was partly or wholly English, it does not appear to have been so in any special way warranting explicit mention, i.e. more so than for any other American of English descent or language (as might be the case, e.g., if his family had only recently arrived from England, or if his extended family were well-represented in both the UK and the US). Having become an Anglophile would not normally render an American definitively an Anglo-American; nor even would his having relocated to the UK and died there make the term relevant, as defined, for example, here. If Getty had changed his citizenship to English/British (which the article at present doesn't say), I believe even that would make him not Anglo-American, but an American-born Englishman or American-born British subject. I think we need to remove Anglo-, even if someone may still wish to find a way to acknowledge, in the lead, his emigration to or activity in England. IfYouDoIfYouDon't (talk) 07:41, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

More detail..

For this to have been one of the richest men in the world at the time, there isn't more information or detail that can be added into this article? It's remarkably short, and doesn't mention how or where he died. Chairman Sharif 23:04, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Help

I found this all over the internet, but in the comments section, there is no evedence to back this up, could someone please do some reserch becaus i dont have the time to confirm the allagations, here is the comment: MACDONALD BANK is filing a $22,000,000,000 J. Paul Getty war crimes lawsuit in Washington against Getty Oil Company shareholders; based on Getty’s support for Hitler. J. Paul Getty; FBI File 100.1202, June 26, 1940, Espionage.

2003 documents declassified by UK Warfare Ministry reveal that in Oct. 1941 the pro-Nazi Jean Paul Getty employed and lodged Nazis at his Pierre Hotel in New York City; Nazis who were involved in spying on and sabotaging Allied Forces’ war production plants.

43,000 people were killed in the UK while J. Paul Getty was in Berlin still shipping oil to Hitler five months before Pearl Harbor … December 7, 1941.

J.P. Getty was investing in German government bonds. Jean Paul Getty’s mother; Catherine Risher was German. As aristocrats with treasures of art were executed -- beginning in 1933 -- with the outbreak of war; Getty assiduously added to his vast collection with the Nazis.

If someone can confirm this that would be really helpfull. thanks. 173.75.234.3 (talk) 15:18, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

The article mentions a friendship with the Rothschilds but not the FBI investigation.

Coin box telephone

Why is this section considered encyclopedic? Crasshopper (talk) 23:23, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

It's notable for demonstrating his cheapness which also included his 10,000 dependents and not heating his home.Smallman12q (talk) 18:04, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Does this kind of sentence belong here? "The popular press cited his action as that of a miser, ignoring the fact that no self-respecting man however rich can tolerate being taken advantage of without word of thanks." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.212.173.162 (talk) 15:06, 21 June 2011 (UTC)