Talk:It Was Written/GA2

GA Review

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I'll be reviewing this article shortly. Ealdgyth - Talk 16:21, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS):

   A couple of rough prose spots

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

   A couple of concerns on some of the website sources

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Specific concerns

• http://www.allhiphop.com/Hiphopnews/?ID=6535 (current ref 28) deadlinks
• What makes http://www.rapcentral.co.uk/ a reliable source?
• http://www.allhiphop.com/features/?ID=1319 (current ref 33)
• What makes http://www.allhiphop.com/ a reliable source?
• What makes http://www.the-breaks.com/search.php?term=Nas&type=6 a reliable source?
• Lead:
  • "It also featured special distribution in the United Kingdom through Simple Vinyl Records." I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say here. Do you mean it was distributed in the UK under some sort of special distribution arrangement?
  • ".... and West Coast-based producer...." Is the location of the producer important somehow? Suggest cutting it if not, explaining it if so.
  • ".... underground tone of his landmark debut album..." landmark is peacocky, need to cut it.
• Conception:
  • "Following the acclaim of his landmark debut album..." landmark again is peacocky, need to cut it.
  • "... Nas's shy personality and withdrawal from promoting the record." Suggest rewording to "...Nas's shy personality and uninvolvement in promoting the record." or something similar.

I've put the article on hold for seven days to allow folks to address the issues I've brought up. Feel free to contact me on my talk page, or here with any concerns, and let me know one of those places when the issues have been addressed. If I may suggest that you strike out, check mark, or otherwise mark the items I've detailed, that will make it possible for me to see what's been addressed, and you can keep track of what's been done and what still needs to be worked on. Ealdgyth - Talk 16:41, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Response

• AllHipHop is a "valuable resource for hip-hop on the internet" [1]
• RapCentral reports hip hop news daily. [2]
• The-Breaks.com has been used for several GA Hip Hop Articles to cite sample use, including Illmatic, Reasonable Doubt, Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers), Bizarre Ride II the Pharcyde, Ready to Die, "It Was a Good Day", God's Son, Body Count.

I fixed the references; for the Breaks ref. i used the liner notes instead. Dan56 (talk) 20:27, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

To determine the reliablity of the site, we need to know what sort of fact checking they do. You can establish this by showing news articles that say the site is reliable/noteworthy/etc. or you can show a page on the site that gives their rules for submissions/etc. or you can show they are backed by a media company/university/institute, or you can show that the website gives its sources and methods, or there are some other ways that would work too. It's their reputation for reliabilty that needs to be demonstrated. Please see Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-06-26/Dispatches for further detailed information. As for the prose, did you have any replies about the other concerns? Ealdgyth - Talk 20:31, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

I got an opinion from the Reliable Source Noticeboard, see discussion. I also added to the influence section a bit.

Dan56 (talk) 00:59, 13 March 2009 (UTC)