Talk:It's Raining Men

Precilla-Queen of the Desert Movie

There are references to the use of the song in the movie. Does someone want to check and updateVk2tds (talk) 21:21, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Split

it should be split as Geri Halliwell covered the song and made it different and in a different order and she deserves recognition on her own as she has been the most successfull with it.

The most successful with it in the UK. Hyacinth 09:09, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

No, the article is not long--hottie 20:21, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

If the original version is The Weather Girl's (and I think it's the best one), how is possible you use so much space to speak about Geri Halliwell?????

Yeah! The weather girls made the song the hit that it is. Do you think that "ginger" would even look at the song if the weatherr girls didn't had made it a "smoking" hit??!!!!

They should not be merged. DXRAW 00:58, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

:O

I think they should. Chsf 18:22, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Split Again

I have tried to put the infobox and chart position for Geri Halliwell's version of the song on this article but is reverted every single time by the efforts of user:DXRAW stating that it is "not needed crap" and that if the information were to stay, a new article needs to be done. Since he is so persistent about this ( even though there are many different singles where a cover version has infoboxes listed for different versions, see Take My Breath Away for example), I have re-started the It's Raining Men (Geri Halliwell) until further notice. smileydude66 23:14, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

I have merged them again. User:DXRAW is incorrect to delete the information as that is not the procedure. If the problem is that it is perceived that there is not enough information about other versions, then time should be spent on expanding the coverage of other versions of this song. Splitting is an inappropriate solution. If DXRAW persists in being uncooperative (after reviewing, for example, WP:OWN), I would suggest a Request for Comment or something similar be filed. GassyGuy 06:12, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

WP:AGF!!! GassyGuy There is no need to have the extra info box in the main article take for example Black Betty It detracks from the orginal. DXRAW 14:42, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, GassyGuy. smileydude66 20:59, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Articles merged yet again, and infobox re-instated again, as it was removed by DXRAW. All versions of the song that are notable belong in this article. Removals and unmerging will be reverted immediately. Thanks all who have kept an eye on this already. - eo 21:35, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

The Tracklistings add nothing to the article and have been removed. DXRAW 23:36, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Explain why a tracklist would be unnecessary. Is it because you do not particularly care for that version? Not a good enough reason. - eo 23:44, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

What does it add? BTW people are ment to be working together on this so your Edit summarys are bordering on personal attacks. DXRAW 23:45, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm not personally attacking you, explain how I am doing that. You seem to be the only one who is removing stuff from this article, against the consensus of others who have commented here. Also, removing communication on your talk page is considered vandalism. - eo 23:52, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

"Removing personal attacks is often considered legitimate" taken from [[WP:Vandalism DXRAW 00:27, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

That would make sense if what I left on your Talk Page was a personal attack, which it isn't. - eo 22:37, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

It doesn't matter. Editors are given very broad latitude when it comes to their own Talk page. If he or she wants to remove warnings, that's his or her business. --ElKevbo 22:44, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, thanks for that info. The next time someone messages me about a questionable edit I've made and I choose to ignore it, I'll just blank it out. Problem solved, right? - eo 22:59, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

It's certainly not the best way to respond but it's a clear indication that you read the message and it is a manner of response. I wouldn't advise but you're free to edit your own user page almost as you see fit. --ElKevbo 23:22, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Is it just me or are three 3 editors who want the Geri Halliwell info to remain in the article and only one editor who insists on removing it? Am I miscounting because it seems that one editor is persistently acting in contravention of the growing consensus. --ElKevbo 02:11, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

We are now getting to the point where User:DXRAW is continuously reverting comments made on his talk page regarding his edits on this article. Obviously he feels as strongly about NOT having Geri Halliwell's info on this article as the rest of us are about KEEPING it in. I am thinking that we should resort to getting an admin on this topic and ask their opinion. What do you guys ( including DXRAW ) think? smileydude66 09:13, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm not saying that there should be no Geri Halliwell stuff im saying that most of her stuff adds nothing to the article. DXRAW 11:18, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Okay, how about a compromise? Leave the article the way it is now, with both the Weather Girls and Geri Halliwell infoboxes/chart history but no track listings for either? That sound good to everyone? smileydude66 17:51, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

If tracklists are the only issue, then remove them, that's fine. However, the Halliwell infobox has also been removed in past edits and I do not agree with that. - eo 22:59, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Apples and Oranges

"This version differed from the original in that parts were transposed one octave lower to allow for the singer's inability to reach the higher notes."

This is meaningless information. All singers have different ranges and it is common practice for singers to change the part, or more commonly the key, of a tune to fit their own range. Even the original singer, if they are not the writer of the music, may change the original key to suit their voice. Unless it is common practice on Wikipedia to mention every time a notable cover version of a song has been changed because of the singer's "inability" to sing it the same as the original, I will delete this in a week or so. Alternatively, it could be expanded into a discussion of the arrangement of the Gerri Halliwell version if anyone would like to do that. Ultimately, this like saying that an apple has an "inability" to be orange - like an orange.77.99.163.40 (talk) 12:06, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Deleted 77.99.163.40 (talk) 21:15, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Cultural Ref cleanup

I've deleted most of the cultural refs and the trivia tag. Here is what was deleted:

• Featured in the bonus round of the slot machine "Money Storm", produced by IGT.

• In the movie Scary Movie, Ray has a cassette with "It's raining men" that he plays when the clique is on a road trip, alluding to his homosexuality.

• A sketch from the BBC comedy series The Smell of Reeves and Mortimer includes a performance of the song, supposedly included on the album Pancake Day by folk singers Mulligan and O'Hare.

• Singer/Songwriter Mike Doughty asks his audience on the live album Smofe + Smang: Live in Minneapolis to shout "It's Raining Men" instead of "Freebird," which Doughty then apologized for not being able to play. The joke became a common staple for much of his shows.

• "It's Raining Men" is used as the theme song for the Steve Czaban sports segment on the Bob and Brian morning show in Wisconsin.

• Theme song for The Michael Irvin Show on KESN 103.3 FM in Dallas, TX.

• The popular Canadian teen drama Degrassi: The Next Generation, which is known for naming each episode after an '80s hit song, named an episode after this song. The episode faced the issue of gay dating.

• This song is played during the fight scene between Mark Darcy and Daniel Cleaver in the film Bridget Jones' Diary.

• This song was performed by Bill Kaulitz on the German version of Star Search (this is what started his career).

• In 2008, The McCain Girls produced a parody song "It's Raining McCain," and posted an accompanying video on YouTube, which became popular after being reported on in The Huffington Post.

• The Top Ten list for May 5 2008, "Top Ten Signs There's Trouble at The Weather Channel" closed with a short rendition by Shaffer and the CBS Orchestra.

• Lisa Landry-Sims frequently sings this song on the show Sister, Sister, usually in short bursts, but in one episode, she sings almost the entire song.
• The song was used in a video edit on the official Formula One's website for the highlight reel of the raining part of 2009 Malaysian Grand Prix.

I don't believe any of these should remain. 97.113.74.253 (talk) 20:30, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

I agree — Mütze (talk) 02:02, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

References

Dave Balfour?

The article says that the song was originally written for Dave Balfour's album Stars, but I can't find any information about this artist or that album anywhere online. What is the source for this information? --Metropolitan90 (talk) 02:47, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

• Upon further review, this looks like it was vandalism, based on this edit. Still, the original text was unsourced, too. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 02:50, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Can't believe this has stood for so long. In fact Paul Shaffer said in a Vanity Fair interview:

Paul Jabara called me up and said, “I’ve got a great song for Donna Summer. I want you to write the song with me. What do you think about ‘It’s Raining Men’?” We wrote it in one afternoon. Lyrically she hated it, because she had become a born-again Christian. She thought it was blasphemous. She called Paul and said, “I hate the song. Oh, we’ve lost you.” And then she sent him a Bible the next day. Paul went on to find Two Tons o’ Fun and they tore it up. He had them record it as the Weather Girls, and there it was, a No. 1 dance song. Dave [Letterman] had them on the show, too, in 1983.

I've deleted the false claim. We may consider referencing the interview if relevant. —sroc 💬 06:36, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

Fair use of notable cover version single covers

Since the images, File:Itsrainingmen-ukcd1.jpg has been removed by one editor citing WP:NFCC and reverted by four other editors also citing WP:NFCC, I am starting a discussion here so that the image is not deleted simply for being orphaned.

The single cover for the Geri Halliwell cover version pass the points of WP:NFCC. WP:NFCC#3 is met because the single cover is used for identification its version and The Weather Girls single cover cannot convey equivalent significant information and/or identification of Geri Halliwell's version. WP:NFCC#8 is met because the single cover are used for identification and the image increases readers' understanding and not having them would be detrimental to the understanding of Geri Halliwell's version. The single cover passes the first example of acceptable use of fair images at WP:NFCI: "Cover art: Cover art from various items, for visual identification only in the context of critical commentary of that item (not for identification without critical commentary)."

The current consensus for single covers in section infoboxes to represent notable cover versions are that they pass WP:NFCC and WP:NFCI. Since WP:SONGCOVER says notable cover versions should be covered in the article about the song and not have its own article, but if it had its own article, the image would be acceptable there, so it is acceptable in the sections of the song article. The single cover is not alternate cover for The Weather Girls cover, it is the primary cover for Geri Halliwell's version and should be treated as such. If it is felt that the image should still be removed than the image should be taken to Wikipedia:Files for deletion instead of simply removed from the article. Aspects (talk) 18:31, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

The problem here is that User:Werieth is on a spree of removing fair use images without attempts at discussion or consensus. Material should not be removed from an article without discussion unless it is clearly vandalism or harmful.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 19:16, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Keep - Its a notable cover version of a well-known popstar, Geri Halliwell. And the cover version has a couple of sub-sections. So it deserves a single art cover just like the original version.--SuperHotWiki (talk) 00:33, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

"gay anthem"?

I don't understand how this is a gay anthem. It's women singing about men falling out of the sky would be a good thing, or at least that's how it seems on the surface. Then again, In the Navy doesn't sound like a gay anthem either based on the lyrics alone. The only thing that made it a gay anthem was who was singing it. But still, some explanation of how a song which seems to contain exclusively heterosexual references (women singing that it's raining men) would be a gay anthem would seem to be required here. --134.193.232.127 (talk) 18:25, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

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Appearance on Mousercise

"It's Raining Men" was a featured "song of the day" on Mousercise in 1982. For a while, the show would pick a popular song and use it as the featured song, which would play in the background as the kids did their exercises. Later on, the producers used songs from the Mousercise Album as the featured song instead.

I wish I could find the video or a citation. It was the first time I heard the song, and it was a bit of an "interesting" choice for a kid's show in hindsight.

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