Talk:Ismail Qemali University of Vlorë

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I have been watchin this edit war go on for a long time. please stop it right now. any changes to the article on the following subjects will require a full citation of fact :

  • name of the chancellor

is it  : Albert Qarri or Eustrat Zhupa or Tanush Shaska

  • name of the university.

is it  : University of Vlora' (UV) or 'University "Ismail Qemali" Vlorë or "Universiteti Teknologjik Ismail Qemali i Vlores" (Technological University Ismail Qemali of Vlora)


I am considering removing the name of the chancellor if we can find no agreement or reference.

Is the flag FLAG1:

 
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Thanks, mike James Michael DuPont (talk) 20:29, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

ProtectionEdit

I've protected the article for five days after a complaint about the reverting. Please provide sources for anything you want to add or retain, and arguments on talk for any reliably sourced information you want to remove. Many thanks, SlimVirgin talk|contribs 22:43, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

  Response to third opinion request:
I'm coming to this debate from the 3O page. Please note that this is just my opinion on a topic that I have no previous involvement with, and that this view is in no way binding. Seems to me that the webpage of the university should be a reliable source for the disputed info? I've found this page, which says that the current rector is Tanush Shaska, although apparently he's resigning effective November, 2011. I believe that a rector is the chief executive of a university, equivalent to chancellor? The school flag appearing on that web page is the one that's currently in the wiki article. Finally, the web page itself translates the university name as "University of Vlorë." What sources support the other possibilities? Thanks,—CordeliaNaismith (talk) 04:03, 28 December 2010 (UTC)


Ok, This page http://www.univlora.edu.al/?p=admin says the head is Tanush Shaska and that A. Qarri is under him.

this page https://sites.google.com/a/univlora.edu.al/rector/our-company/our-staff aslo lists Tanush Shaska as the rektor. Eustrat Zhupa is not listed as rektor, but as provost there. Tanush Shaska has published his resination letter here, as you said effective November, 2011. https://sites.google.com/a/univlora.edu.al/rector/.

in that letter he names Eustrat Zhupa as being his backup :

All administrative responsibilities have been transferred to administrative zv.rektori (Deputy Rektor) Dr. Eustrat Zhupa, which we stautin regulation and the University of Vlora is the second person in charge after the Rector of the University.

Zhupa is listed as "Deputy Rector Eustrat Zupa" ( zv/rektori Eustrat Zhupa) http://univlora.edu.al/?p=inv

on the 23 of dec, 2010. Albert Qarri was name as future rektor in the news following a vote "23 Dhjetor 2010. Vlorë, Albert Qarri rektor i ri i Universitetit "Ismail Qemali"" http://www.balkanweb.com/bw_lajme2.php?IDNotizia=53491&NomeCategoria=kryesore&Titolo=vlor--albert-qarri-rektor-i-ri-i-universitetit-ismail-qemali&IDCategoria=1 http://www.sot.com.al/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=37586:albert-qarri-rektor-i-ri-i-universitetit-te-vlores&catid=50:titujt-djathtas

23 Dec 2010 - 18:50 | Albania Vlore, Albert Qarri new rector of the University "Ismail Kamal" Vlore, Albert Qarri new rector of the University "Ismail Kamal" VLORE-Prof.as.dr.Albert Qarri will be the new Rector of the University "Ismail Kamal" of Vlora on the future mandate of about one year. Qarri proved victorious in the elections that took place today in this university and ended around 16:00.

Official sources of the Central Election Commission of the university announced that it has received more than 42% of votes required, which allows that he be declared the winner, against three other competitors in this election.

Prof.as.dr. Albert Qarri is one of the most experienced teachers at the University "Ismail Kamal" of Vlora at the Faculty of Economy. He succeeds in this function Tanush Shaska former rector, who resigned just over a month ago.

The mandate of the new Rector is limited until the next election, expected to take place in early 2012.

University of Vlora races today for the election of a new Rector Time: 8:20 - The University of Vlora "Ismail Kamal, today held contests for the election of the new Rector, behind the left vacant by Tanush Shaska. In the race for this post are four names quite familiar professors at the University of Vlora, which also revealed their platforms. So for the post of rector declared candidacy Albert Qari, Vladimir Kasemi, Alex and Angel Liçaj Trush. It appears that three of the candidates were inclined to be more balanced in their commitments, if the gain this post, and only one of them, Professor Albert Qari has unveiled a platform that conflicts with the policy followed by Tashi University Vlora. Qari has said it would lift the branches kalkuluesin social profile, and it will be optional subject in Nursing, while currently it is compulsory subject in all branches of the University of Vlora. Three other candidates for the post of Rector of UV have opted to maintain a neutral stance, fearing that the exit out against a policy that is applied up to now may cost a few votes short. However racing will take place during the day, and the winner will only be learned the next day, when you have finished the vote count. The post of Rector at the University of Vlora was empty nearly two months ago, when Tanush Shaska, who guided the university among many controversy for three years, resigned after a memo MES, where scientific activities outside university for all leaders of higher education institutions, which previously had to be approved by the Minister of Education. (S.g / e.n / Brakes)

So I assume that this will be until the Nov 2011, Will be the new Rector of the University "Ismail Kamal" of Vlora on the future mandate of about one year. So we can leave that as it is, Rektor Albert Qarri. The name in the news is listed as University "Ismail Kamal" of Vlora.

James Michael DuPont (talk) 10:02, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

fictitious adjunctsEdit

Department of Mathematics is remarkable for having 24 damsel instructors and 7 male professors, 3 of whom fictitious adjuncts. This is a Guiness record in the world for female/male Math department ratio. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.139.177.99 (talk) 15:50, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Sounds interesting, but what is a fictitious adjuncts? I thought it was another one of these abusive posts. If you can explain that, i will put it back in. thanks James Michael DuPont (talk) 20:44, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

I explain that. It means people who are on the website only, but not on the payroll. Or on the website and on the payroll (that fictitious too) but are not physically present in the university, and contribute nothing. I myself was a fictitious professor there. They asked me to go, I left after 2 months for unpaid salaries, and they kept my position running, pocketing my salary.


Look, if you are going to add in accusations about someone, you better bring in references and newspaper articles. Wikipedia is not a place to post dirt on people. If you cannot prove it, then dont put it there, why dont you help clean up the page, bring in facts, picture, details and references. There is so much in vlore to write about and I dont want to support just posting criticism on wp. Wikipedia is not the place to make news, it is to collect it, ok? thanks Mike James Michael DuPont (talk) 22:50, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

I fully agree with James Michael DuPont, and would like to add that I have never confirmed Ilia Toli's "testimony", and that I disagree with what he has claimed about me. --Stefan Kohl (talk) 21:41, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Some references to recent newspaper articlesEdit

Here are some references to related newspaper articles etc. in chronological order from immediately before the demission of Rector Shaska on November 15, 2010 until the election of Rector Qarri on December 23, 2010 and his official appointment by President Bamir Topi:

Article in BalkanWeb "Arroganca e duhur e Rektorit Shaska"

Article in Gazeta Shqiptare: "Skandali, pedagogët e Vlorës zevendësohen nga studentë"

TV program "alarm 17 nentor"

TV spot "Vlorë, universiteti pezullon mësimin"

Article in Gazeta Shqip: "Dorehiqet rektori Shaska sulme nga SHBA per qeverine dhe ministrin e Arsimit"

Article in LajmiFundit: "Vlorë, dorëhiqet rektori i Universitetit: Berisha e Tafaj shkatërruan arsimin "

Article posted at telegrafi.com: "Rektori Shaska jep dorëheqjen përmes e-mailit"

Article in Koha Jone "Tanush Shaska: "Jap doreheqjen, aktiv dhe ne politike""

Article by Alsat TV: "Universiteti i Vlorës me rektor të ri"

Article in Gazeta Shqiptare: "Vlorë, fiton kundërshtari i Shaskës"

Article by Albanian News Agency 'AlbPress': "Albert Qarri dekretohet rektor i Universitetit Ismail Qemali"

Message on Lajme Shqip: "Topi dekreton emërimin e Albert Qarri, rektor i universitetit “Ismail Qemali”"

--Stefan Kohl (talk) 17:17, 10 January 2011 (UTC)