Talk:I Am Legend (film)/Archive 1

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Johnny Depp in I Am Legend

Two sources, BlackFilm.com and JoBlo.com, have mentioned the possibility of Johnny Depp in I Am Legend. Their information has been drawn from "production sources" with nothing confirmed by the studio. As a result of this rumor, IMDb has listed "Johnny Depp (rumored)" on its I Am Legend page. Since the news is just a rumor, Depp should not be mentioned in the film article until there is confirmation from the studio, the director, the producers, or actors. --Erik 20:33, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

...which is one reason why people should be reluctant to create these articles until filming actually begins. Even presumably confirmed cast members can end up out of it. You never know, Will Smith could break a leg tomorrow and the whole project could be put on indefinite hold. It can be a long, long way from "pre-production" to "Action!" -- Fan-1967 20:39, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

So should this article be deleted? I've never been clear about when is the most appropriate time to create a film article on Wikipedia, based on pre-production news. --Erik 20:41, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Opinions differ. Some people like to create an article at the first hint of a rumor, and those go through AFD all the time. I tend to favor being very conservative about it, because so many projects do fall apart before filming, but that's me. IMDB is horrible about listing "pre-production" films that fall apart (usually over financing) before they ever shoot a frame. Ths one's kind of on the edge, because it looks pretty firm, with a major star committed and a script written. I wouldn't go out of my way to delete it, but I wouldn't fight to keep it, either. Fan-1967 20:49, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Filming in Manhattan

Obviously, Wikipedians, such as me, are New Yorkers and are posting the shooting locations as they see them around Manhattan. Why are these being deleted? Right now, Will Smith's gigantic trailer is parked outside my office on 51st Street. Now why isn't that relevant? Why can't people post a list of locations where the film has been shot? These are not going to make the newspaper every day. There are no references in print or online sites to spotting the actors around the city. I would like some feedback from other New York-based Wiki users who are seeing this film being made in our city. Apparently, it is the most-expensive movie ever to be filmed here... but I can't add that to the article, because I heard it on the radio, and we can't link to that... --K72ndst 13:58, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

The issue is that information on Wikipedia needs to be verifiable, which means citing sources that are reliable. Anyone could say that I Am Legend was filmed at this particular location on this particular date, and no one would be the wiser. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. Wikipedia is meant to be encyclopedic. What you can do, though, is check out these IMDb boards to post such information and read others' information as well. About the radio bit, though... I'm not sure how that kind of information can be cited, if it's even verifiable. A transcript online, maybe? This film article is ultimately about I Am Legend -- it's not a timeline of I Am Legend filming locations. Look at the big picture -- when the film comes out, all these places will be recognized by New Yorkers and I think be pretty verifiable to include without citation, since it's in the film. But at this point, it's not really unnecessary, and rather unencyclopedic, to have a smorgasbord of random filming location details. --Erik (^talk/_contrib) @ 14:09, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Next time, k72.. just take a picture out your window. Can't argue that. (-Kid. 12:47, 26 March 2007 (UTC))

Will Smith was just down my street in Mt. Airy New Jersey. How cool is that? But I've got no proof so I can't post it. Here's a bit of info for everyone: When it says they're in Vermont they're not in Vermont, they're in good old N.J. That and the gigantic wall wasn't really there. ClawClaw 22:47, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the comment, but we need a reliable source like a newspaper to cite the filming locations. Thanks for trying to help, anyway. Hopefully something will come up before the film's release! —Erik (talk • contrib) - 22:52, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Actually, now that I think about it there was something in the newspaper yesterday... give me a second... ClawClaw 23:08, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Found It. http://www.nj.com/hunterdon/stories/index.ssf?/base/news-0/1194552393190670.xml&coll=12 ClawClaw 23:12, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

BTW, you actually can cite a radio station (I've heard that before). You just have to put the time, the date, and the radio station that you were listening to as your source (I think thats all you need). 71.207.138.63 (talk) 13:00, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Citations for possible use

• Tim Swanson (2006-11-21). "Will Smith Extra". Premiere. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)
• Lewis Beale (2007-01-13). "A variation on vampire lore that won't die". AZCentral.com. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)

—Erik (talk • contrib) - 03:23, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

• Ian Spelling (2007-04-05). "Eureka Star Was Legend". Sci Fi Wire. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)

Some information. —Erik (talk • contrib • review) - 12:06, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Diff

The diff of potentially relevant information removed by another editor. —Erik (talk • contrib • review) - 20:28, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, the diff is fully available in the history. Do you plan on itemizing each edit here? Anyway, an encyclopedia article about a movie doesn't need such minutia as that such and such a scene was shot on such and such a day at such and such a store. Or that shooting at such and such a site lasted x number of days, etc. Relevancy is not a sufficient criteria for inclusion in an encyclopedia. --ZimZalaBim (talk) 20:40, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

I plan to itemize diffs that remove valid citations for possible restoration at a later date. The history will get long in the tooth when the film comes out, so I find it easier to identify one diff on the talk page. I somewhat agree that the filming details were unnecessarily specific, but you never know if the protagonist's weapon needs to be identified or if a specific location was prominent in the film. In addition, I disagree with your edit, which basically assumed that the 1000 extras, military vehicles, and aircraft applied to all filming locations. The citation clearly indicates that this was for the Brooklyn Bridge scene, not the other locations. In addition, the quantity of 300 crew members and 100 actors could come into play later if there are available citations about the scale of the project, in comparison to its budget or a film of that genre. I don't think that WP:NOT#INFO has a strong case here for the removal of valid content for the aforementioned reasons. I actually have a backlog of Google Alerts that have captured news headlines for this film, so I hope to expand the article sometime in the future, as I haven't done any serious work on it as opposed to some other articles of upcoming films. Cheers. —Erik (talk • contrib • review) - 22:01, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

WP is also not a crystal ball - if the fact that a scene was shot at Hugo Boss or that he used an M16 becomes of great intellectual or cultural importance in the future, then add it at that time -- but there's no reason to include such information now (even if NYU's student newspaper reported on it). --ZimZalaBim (talk) 22:24, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Hence saving the diff. Citations about films get really heavy-ended up to and after the film's release (you try sifting through Google for a reliable source about a film). I'm not going to contest your removal, but I would like to request that you re-edit to indicate that the 1000 extras, military vehicles, and aircraft were used for solely the Brooklyn Bridge scene. What exists now is an inaccurate summary of production details. —Erik (talk • contrib • review) - 22:30, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Personally, I don't consider such information all that remarkable. Go ahead and include it yourself if you feel it is important - I won't revert it. --ZimZalaBim (talk) 22:37, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

$5 million scene

• Joseph Steuer (2007-04-26). "A 'Legend' in the making". The Hollywood Reporter. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)

Information to include. —Erik (talk • contrib • review) - 19:23, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

A Question

Wasn't The Last Man on Earth the first film adaptation of I am Legend? Sarara 21:11, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

It was a mistake and has been fixed. Thanks for catching it. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 22:17, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Actually, it wasn't a mistake. Some idiot changed it. Oh, well. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 22:36, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Comic book

• CCI: THIS BOOK IS LEGEND —Erik (talk • contrib) - 14:08, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Second Life

Recently the official website added a section for what appears to be an I Am Legend videogame in the form of Second Life. The section is titled 'Second Life'. What is the connection between the film and the virtual world, Second Life? 72.49.194.69 22:57, 3 September 2007 (UTC) Joshua

It seems to be a movie tie-in to Second Life. We'll see how big of a deal this is, if at all. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 23:04, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Copyright violation

I removed a copyright violation from this page. The "Synopsis" section was copied from here or somewhere with similar text. If we can get it rewritten, that would be awesome. Chupper 02:33, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Headlines

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• Site a 'Legend' for iPhone
• Warner Bros. Pictures and the Electric Sheep Company to Launch ``I Am Legend: Survival in Second Life
• Will Smith: a one-man show (I see it's already used)

• In case link goes dead: Chris Lee (2007-11-04). "Will Smith: a one-man show". Los Angeles Times. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)

Headlines. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 19:06, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

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• Will Smith goes it alone
• Will Smith: On the Set of 'I Am Legend'
• ‘Batman Vs. Superman’ Coming In 2009, But Will We Live To See It?
• Reel Time: How Will Smith became the singular sensation in I Am Legend
• I Am Legend - Cast and Crew Interviews
• I Am Legend Press Conference: Will Smith
• An Exclusive Interview with Francis Lawrence
• Legend Switched Mutant Gears
• Legend's Smith Researched Prisoners
• Legend's Smith Goes To Dog
• Legend Changes, Adapts Book
• Legend Ending Changed
• Legend Emptied New York

Headlines. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 17:08, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Release Date

Mr Alien, my country's(Malaysia) I Am Legend release date is based on a credible cinema's (Cathay Cineplex) release date of the movie. I've included the appropriate reference, pls dont undo it.Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nabelon (talk • contribs)

Malaysia is not a primarily English-speaking nation however. See WP:MOSFILMS. Alientraveller 13:23, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

(conflict)Hi, as per the manual of style for films, release dates for every country should not be listed, otherwise we end up with a giant list of indiscriminate information. What should be included:

• The film's earliest release, whether it was at a film festival or a public release.
• Its first release dates in majority English-speaking countries only
• Release dates in the country or countries that produced the film
• In some cases, release dates in countries that are the subject of the film

Best regards, Liquidfinale ^{(Ţ) (Ç) (Ŵ)} 13:26, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

I see it now, thanks for the information. I rest my case. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nabelon (talk • contribs)

Hello, the article has two different realease dates for UK (Dec. 21, and Dec. 26), wich one is right? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.84.249.165 (talk) 21:30, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

I just looked into this; BBFC says January 4, 2008, and I've updated it accordingly. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 21:54, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, I think I originally added the December 21 date, based on this cite. I'll see if I can find corroboration for either. Liquidfinale ^{(Ţ) (Ç) (Ŵ)} 23:05, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Corroboration for neither! December 26 is listed on the Film Distributers' Association website. Liquidfinale ^{(Ţ) (Ç) (Ŵ)} 23:28, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Looks good! Thanks for figuring out the matter. Wonder why the BBFC had it listed like that... —Erik (talk • contrib) - 23:29, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

I think the reason I didn't use the BBFC link initially was because of the wording: "Expected release date" - it was as if they weren't entirely sure. Perhaps that's what the studio told them at the time it was submitted for a rating (presumably before the final release date was nailed down). Incidentally, that FDA site will be of enormous help in the future; is there an American equivalent I wonder? Liquidfinale ^{(Ţ) (Ç) (Ŵ)} 23:42, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Infected?

It appears from the article they act more like night zombies than the vampires from the book. Can we clarify this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by The velociraptor (talk • contribs) 04:16, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

"While the infected become vampires in the novel, the film depicts them as 'dark seekers' (Neville's term for them) who consume living flesh, with a design inspired by the concept of their adrenal glands being open all the time. The actors remained on set as a guide, but were replaced by CGI." You mean that? —Erik (talk • contrib) - 04:21, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes. Jesus, so basically the 28 Days/Weeks Infected, but at night? Mr. Raptor 04:22, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

From the citation that was used in the passage I mentioned above: "They're not exactly vampires either, though Goldsman will say that they have vampirelike drives." Take from that as you will. I guess we'll see how reviewers react to this difference from the book itself. Sometimes these adaptations succeed, sometimes they fall flat on their faces. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 04:24, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Lawrence calls them zombies. Whatever they are, they're nocturnal cannibals. Alientraveller 09:26, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Can't wait to see how "wide open adrenal glands" translates to 'must sleep during the day'. I think once more we see the effect of a 'classic' horror film buff who really only skimmed the novel before deciding on his twists for a remake. Really a remake of the Charleton Heston movie with no real connection to the novel. But I guess that makes sense given "time is big money" in Hollywood and familiar movie plots are seen as free advertising. Read the novel and at the end you will see how this movie TOTALLY misses the main thrust of the novel (which is a surprise ending).69.23.124.142 (talk) 14:54, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

69.23.124.142, can I ask you to refrain from discussing the topic in general? Per the talk page guidelines, we're supposed to use the talk page to discuss ways to improve the article, not our opinions of how the film will be presented. There's other forums for this kind of general discussion, which is why we'd prefer to focus on article improvement. Hope you understand! —Erik (talk • contrib) - 15:00, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

you can't say 'outnumbered' when it's 5 mln to 1 :-)) 89.163.76.138 (talk) 07:39, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Smith only in first half of movie?

In the cast area, it says Smith is only in the first half of the movie. What does that mean? xihix(talk) 01:11, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

I've tried to re-word it better, but what it means is that the first half of the film will focus on Smith by himself (not counting the dog). Obviously, there will be more entities involved in the second half of the film (as you can see from the trailer), but it will initially be Smith by himself, living his lonely life before the trouble gets bad. Let me know if the new wording still doesn't make sense. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 01:33, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

I've just come from seeing I Am Legend - Will Smith features in 99.9% of the movie (literally every scene except for the final one minute), and acts alone for a good 80-90% of the movie (excluding his dog companion, and the eventual vampires). But Will Smith is in the spotlight for the entire duration. 219.77.93.45 (talk) 17:05, 14 December 2007 (UTC) Hamton

Criticism section

Shouldn't there be a section on criticism of the film, with references, etc.? —aacool (talk)

You mean reception? Well then, start citing and quoting. Alientraveller (talk) 18:42, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Done - please review and refine -aacool (talk)

Current fiction?

Since it has been decided that spoiler tags are forbidden, template:currentfiction is supposed to be used, right? So why did within 30 seconds of me tagging the article did it get reverted? What, a movie released today isn't current? Or fiction? Or current fiction? Gront (talk) 19:17, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

The current fiction template states that the article may not have a lot of real-world context and focuses on the plot: that's clearly not the case here with this nicely shaping up piece of encyclopedia. Alientraveller (talk) 19:20, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

It was removed because the article does not lack "a real-world perspective" or "critical commentary." As for the "spoiler" portion of that header, well, I've just gone and accidentally read the last two sentences of the plot section while looking at the older version of the page which had the header on. I'm pissed, but hey, it was my own stupid fault. Best regards, Liquidfinale ^{(Ţ) (Ç) (Ŵ)} 19:24, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

So you don't want plot in the article but you don't want the article flagged in any way? And how does a rotten tomato rating and one critic's view constitute the final word on commentary and criticism? Gront (talk) 19:29, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

A plot summary is appropriate in the film article regardless. Commentary is not restricted to how film critics responded to the film; commentary also includes production, how the final product was made. The template isn't necessary considering there are no issues with this well-rounded article. In addition, the template is too subjectively applied -- how long is "current fiction"? The first two weeks, the entirety of its theatrical run? Do we resurrect the template when the DVD comes out? It's not reasonably applicable. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 19:31, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

If the US relase date of a film isn't approprate to flag it for current fiction... then when is? Yes, this is an adaptation of a book that has been filmed several times, but this "version" is still new. Gront (talk) 19:40, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

The readership is coming here because it's new. There's no reason to inform them as such. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 19:42, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

I'd also suggest someone add a comparison between the other adaptations and the book. Gront (talk) 19:43, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

I think it'd be a good idea to explain the real-world context of such differences. If anyone has access to Creative Screenwriting, there is an article about how the story was adapted for the big screen (especially the 'Hollywoodized' aspect). A Differences section can be pretty indiscriminate, as the adaptation of the source material will procure a laundry list of changes for creative and conventional reasons. It's best to use verifiable, independent perspectives to determine what differences are worth noting. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 19:55, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Where did I say I didn't want the plot in the article? I was just making an aside to the main point of my reply. As for the rest, Erik pretty much has it covered. Best, Liquidfinale ^{(Ţ) (Ç) (Ŵ)} 20:16, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

I've added the {{current fiction}} tag back to the article. The language about the article "lacking" something is relatively new, and I've removed it from the template. --Pixelface (talk) 02:47, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

I don't see the point of this template at all. How long is "recently released"? Also, how is the template not a way to circumvent the removal of spoiler tags, as the appropriate sections, like Plot, are clearly identified? —Erik (talk • contrib) - 02:54, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

I don't know. Maybe you should ask at Template talk:Current fiction or ask JzG who said the template had consensus. What's the point of the {{future film}} template? --Pixelface (talk) 03:07, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Erik you said this template is inapplicable. How so? Are you saying this film, which was released today in the United States, was not recently released? Are you saying this article is not about the film? The tag has nothing to do with Plot headings. --Pixelface (talk) 04:05, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Wrong Information provided

"They eventually travel to an isolated community of survivors in Vermont where she and the boy hand over the cure (Neville's blood) to the guardsmen." It was actually the KV infected woman's blood that recuparated at the end —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.220.16.55 (talk) 06:13, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Some have told me that they believe Smith put his dog to sleep, and did not in fact try to cure the dog as wiki has stated. Can you confirm that he tried to cure Samantha? I apologize if this is out of place. 172.163.164.103 (talk) 09:33, 18 December 2007 (UTC)AJ

He tried to cure the dog since it was infected and begining to mutate but the cure didn't work so he had to kill the dog.--E tac (talk) 06:39, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Vinegar?

So.. Is that vinegar that he pours on his steps every night.. or what? If so, why? How does that miraculously keep vampires at bay? ShadowedBlade (talk) 08:46, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Looked like lighter fluid or something similar to throw off the scent. Gront (talk) 10:42, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

This isn't a forum people. Alientraveller (talk) 18:03, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

It's likely to be garlic extract, as the book makes a big deal about garlic deterring the vampires. 74.74.236.71 (talk) 01:38, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

it was vinegar you can see the label —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.145.217.29 (talk) 04:12, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Plot Spoilers

Can't edit page due to protection, but someone should add a spoilers tag to the plot section. Thanks. Ajschrier (talk) 11:00, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Spoiler tags aren't placed because the Plot section already specifies that the contents will be about the plot. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 18:01, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Very similar to

It´s seems to me that the plot equals a big deal to The Omega Man '70 movie. Will see if it deserve a reference... --190.30.9.176 (talk) 17:56, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

See the first sentence of the third paragraph under Development: "Goldsman rewrote the screenplay to be closer to the second I Am Legend film adaptation, The Omega Man, of which he was a major fan." Your suspicions are correct and covered. :) —Erik (talk • contrib) - 17:59, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Novel Criticism

Surely somewhere in the criticism section we should have a mention of the fact that the film completely alters the plot of the novel? I've heard this mentioned in numerous reviews and indeed, for me at least, it's the one dominant negative feature of the film. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.115.11.9 (talk) 02:06, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Visual effects

• I Am Legend: Apocalypse Now in Manhattan —Erik (talk • contrib) - 18:26, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

I Am Omega

This is the second time I've just discovered someone removing I Am Omega from the lead. Crappy DTV rip-off or not, it is still the third I Am Legend film adaptation. Alientraveller (talk) 20:21, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

A rip-off is not the same as an adaptation.

I Am Omega is not an adaptation of the Richard Matheson novel in any way, shape or form. 'I Am Omega' has a different storyline and features a different main character named Renchard. Furthermore, 'I Am Omega' does not say based on the novel by Richard Matheson in its film credits anywhere. The owner of the film company The Asylum who made the movie 'I Am Omega' also does not claim that it is based on the Matheson novel. 'I Am Omega' is a film produced by The Asylum who make knockoff films that are borderline copyright infringement of bigger budget movies. Some previous films by The Asylum include "Transmorphers", "Snakes on a Train", "The Da Vinci Treasure", etc. Additionally, here is an article from The New York Times where the owner of The Asylum talks about their "mockbusters" and says that all of their movies are original stories [1] Wikipedia should stick to facts and not spread baseless misinformation. JohnnieYoung (talk) 00:04, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

That article says nothing about I Am Omega. It's a hop, skip, and jump to apply that to this particular film. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 00:46, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes, that New York Times article doesn't mention I Am Omega because it was written before that movie came out. And I didn't claim that it did talk about I Am Omega. What I did say about the article is that the owner of The Asylum talks about the type of films that his company produces and how they make them seem similar to current blockbuster movies but that they are actually all original stories. [2] I was pointing out this statement by the maker of the film in question that all of their movies are original stories to show further proof that this recent film of theirs I Am Omega can't be an adaptation of the Richard Matheson novel I Am Legend since that wouldn't make it an original story. Additionally, I will point out again that on the official website for the I Am Omega film, they show "Written by: GEOFF MEED" with no Based On A Novel By Credit [3]; at the IMDB page for I Am Omega, they show "Writer: Geoff Meed" with no Based On A Novel By Credit [4]; also at the IMDB page for I Am Omega, you can see that the main character's name is Renchard not Robert Neville as it is in the novel and the Will Smith movie. But the bottom line is that I saw that there was incorrect information in this article and I thought I would submit a correction. My corrections are accurate and I think everyone actually agrees with these facts now but apparently I have stumbled into some "Edit War" where users and editors alike seem to be more concerned with protecting their territory than the accuracy of the information in Wikipedia. JohnnieYoung (talk) 01:24, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

You may want to assume good faith about other editors' intentions. Accusations of ownership rather than focus on the content don't help interpersonal matters. Now, the New York Times article would be applicable for the article about the company, but as it does not specifically name I Am Omega, it is synthesis to apply the article to the film. Surely it can address the films mentioned in the article, but it cannot be universally applied to all of the Asylum's projects afterward. At the Asylum's website, none of the film listings have a "Based On A Novel By Credit"-type attribute. Also, the argument of the main character's name not being Renchard is inapplicable because in The Last Man on Earth, the protagonist is Robert Morgan. The assertions made here and at I Am Omega have been personal analysis -- "Despite some reports to the contrary, the similarly titled 2007 direct-to-video feature I Am Omega has no official relation to the novel or any of its three film adaptations," and "This has led to some confusion among film fans which is no doubt the intention of film distributor The Asylum who have used this marketing strategy in the past..." What's apparent to you may not be apparent by the rest of us, as there's no reliable source that explicitly calls I Am Omega a rip-off. My suggestion is to further assess the situation with reliable sources and determine what kind of mention is warranted in this article or the other article. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 02:10, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

• News Blaze: "That, in turn, was followed by The Omega Man (1971) with Charlton Heston and, more recently, by I Am Omega (2007), a straight-to-video rip-off released just last month."
• Union-Tribune: "I Am Omega is, in fact, I Am Legend -- or at least something eerily similar... Now the low-budget production house The Asylum, just in time for the new "Legend" adaptation, has released its own coattails-riding version, straight to DVD. No surprise -- The Asylum has made an art of this "tie-in" strategy, with titles that sound almost kind of a little bit like the real thing ("Transmorphers"; "Snakes on a Train"; "The Da Vinci Treasure"; you get the picture)."
• Union-Tribune: Its next couple of releases, 30,000 Leagues Under the Sea and 666: Part II, aren't tie-ins at all, although Latt says the film that follows those – Eye of Omega – is "sort of" tied to the Will Smith sci-fi thriller I Am Legend."
• Winston-Salem Journal: "Oh, and don’t forget Asylum Entertainment’s new DVD I Am Omega, a completely unrelated movie with Mark Dacascos as … er, the last man on Earth, fighting a horde of zombies."
• Los Angeles Times, December 13, 2007: "I Am Omega (2007) - Straight-to-video rip-off of I Am Legend, released in November to cash in on the new movie. The film is from Asylum, the company that also released such films as Snakes on a Train, The Da Vinci Treasure and 30,000 Leagues Under the Sea."
• The Times-Picayune, December 14, 2007: "If the story behind I Am Legend seems familiar, it's because this isn't the first time Richard Matheson's novel has been made into a movie. Others include: ... I Am Omega - A direct-to-DVD version released just this year, starring Mark Dacascos."
• Variety: "Matheson’s pioneering novel, which worked a lot of science into a story populated by vampiric predators, hasn’t fared too well on the bigscreen thus far... A direct-to-vid item called I Am Omega (from the Asylum, specialists in parasitic low-budget versions of big-budget studio fare) has just been produced."

What does everyone think? —Erik (talk • contrib) - 02:26, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

A preliminary thought... perhaps we can mention that I Am Legend is the third feature film adaptation of the book, and we can use one of the citations above to reflect briefly that I Am Omega is a DTV production that was reported to ride on the Will Smith film's potential success. No need to mention the so-called "official relationship" or lack thereof -- that seems a bit too gray to warrant a mention, at least in this article. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 02:30, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Well you can handle it however you see fit. But just for the record, the term rip-off, as nearly every source you cite is referring to the direct-to-video I Am Omega, is a term used in the film industry to mean that this is not an authorized adaptation of the original work. JohnnieYoung (talk) 02:57, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

The article for ripoff doesn't mention this, so unless we provide content there to define its usage in the film industry, it probably wouldn't be appropriate to wiki-link. Do you know of any citations we could use to perhaps expand that particular article to provide a define of ripoff in cinematic terms? —Erik (talk • contrib) - 03:00, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

I am confused as to why every common sense term has to be proven through some official reference? Everybody knows what the word ripoff means don't they? I think we can all agree that ripoff doesn't mean something that's authorized, right? In order for a film adaptation of a copyrighted work to take place the filmmaking company must make a contractual agreement with the copyright holder. In this case, we are talking about a novel that is still under copyright written by Richard Matheson who is a living author. Warner Bros Pictures bought the rights to the novel and made the Will Smith movie I Am Legend. At the same exact time a low budget B-movie film production company The Asylum made a very similar direct-to-video movie I Am Omega. The Asylum doesn't have any rights from Richard Matheson or his book publisher or Warner Bros Pictures to make this movie. Like the other fifty movies that The Asylum has produced, they try to make their movies sound like they are related to a big blockbuster film to confuse the consumer and make some quick money. A number of articles have been written about The Asylum's practices and the owner of the company freely admits that this is what they do. So shouldn't the person who wants to list I Am Omega as an official adaptation of the Richard Matheson novel have to prove that assertion, rather than making others have to prove a negative which is extremely difficult to do. JohnnieYoung (talk) 03:21, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Additionally, the official Wikipedia entry for the novel I Am Legend says it has been adapted to a feature-length film three times and doesn't even mention the direct-to-video I Am Omega. I think the official entry on the Richard Matheson novel would hold some weight here. JohnnieYoung (talk) 03:27, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

We don't appear to be getting anywhere with this, and do I really need to point out the fallacy at the heart of citing another Wikipedia entry to back up your case? Let me restate: I think you're likely correct about this, but the available evidence, presented here by Erik, and be me on your talk page, introduces some ambiguity which we're trying to resolve here in good faith. Erik's footnote idea may well be the best one until the situation becomes clearer; would everyone be happy with presenting it thus until then (detail within <ref> tags will appear as footnotes):

• "It is the third film adaptation of Richard Matheson's 1954 novel I Am Legend, following 1964's The Last Man on Earth and 1971's The Omega Man.<ref>In 2007, the direct-to-DVD I Am Omega was released by The Asylum to cash-in on the recent adaptation's potential success; Todd McCarthy (2007-12-07). "I Am Legend review". Variety. Retrieved 2007-12-18.</ref>"

Best regards, Steve ^{T • C} 09:02, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Sure. Sounds good. Change it to that. JohnnieYoung (talk) 17:24, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

I concur; the wording works for me, and perhaps we can revise it when more information surfaces. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 17:26, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Actually, one change to make -- rewrite it to show that I Am Omega was released earlier in 2007 than I Am Legend (as opposed to afterward). —Erik (talk • contrib) - 17:27, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Anna Escaping NYC?

How does Anna and the young boy escape NYC even though the bridges had previously been blown up and the tunnels being blocked and/or flooded? EDDIES PRIDE —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.168.245.122 (talk) 09:13, 9 January 2008 (UTC) Basically she can't drive off Manhattan. That leaves boats and swimming. Ostensibly she got onto the island somehow. Even without access to boats, the strip of water that seprates Manhattan from the Bronx is completely swimmable, even with Ethan in tow. (Its something like 100 ft. across) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.85.30.3 (talk) 03:14, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Trivia

For the bit that keeps getting added indiscriminately, MTV has real-world context about this. Perhaps it could be directly implemented in Production as part of designing the look of the area. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 22:38, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Time between cure and death

Didn't in the movie it say that he found the cure at 8:48 and died at 8:52? The page says 3 minutes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zengman (talk • contribs) 00:01, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

It was 8:49 to 8:52. icelandic hurricane #12_(talk) 16:17, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Krypton Virus?

The article as it is says KV stands for Krypton Virus, but I saw it the other night and I'm not sure if thats what he said. I can't remember it now, but I figured it was the name of that doctor that shows during the TV broadcast part. Wasn't her name Krippin or something like that? K-something anyway —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.61.105.190 (talk) 03:34, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

I thought he said Krypton, but maybe you are right. icelandic hurricane #12_(talk) 16:18, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Her surname was Krippin, and as such it is likely that it was Krippin virus, not krypton.Lax15o (talk) 06:04, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes, they definitely say Krippin. (It's an intentional pun on Dr Crippen, I assume.) Barnabypage (talk) 15:24, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

JLA Movie Teaser?

In a scene kinda early into the movie there is a billboard with the Batman and superman symbols on it with the 5.16.09? Perhaps that is the release date. 70.250.180.237 (talk) 04:30, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2007/12/03/batman-vs-superman-coming-in-2009-but-will-we-live-to-see-it/ Jamesr66a (talk) 16:05, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Cannibalistic Hunger?

The article makes an assertion that the Infected exhibit cannibalistic hunger. I know this is kind of nitpicky, but while the Infected are known to eat the Unaffected, there's no proof in the movie that they had cannibalistic tendancies among themselves. In scenes where the Dark Seekers are seen together, they never attack one another and instead demonstrate great social cohesion (gathering in circles together to devour the deer they killed, following their leader to rescue their fellow Dark Seeker). By just dismissing them as "cannibalistic", there is an implication that they're a lot like zombies in other movies that would devour themselves if left alone. 72.192.206.80 (talk) 01:24, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Agreed.

They're just essentially mindless and are desperate to eat the nearest sources of food available; and while we LIKE to think of ourselves as spirtually unique, on the outside we're just meat.

(Are you folks aware that several species of primates hunt down one another for food in real life?? This wouldn't really be all that different -Uninfected don't "look" the same.) Thanos777 (talk) 03:54, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

When Will Smith examines the dark seeker you'll note the high pulse rate initially seen in the dark seeker female. Judging from their physical prowess and high metabolic rate, these creatures need to eat A LOT. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.85.30.3 (talk) 03:16, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

In the one part where the infected are climbing up the walls to get to the hole in the roof of Neville's house, one of the infected shoves another off of the wall. And also, when the Alpha Male is going to the glass door at the end, he shoves other infected out of the way. 72.253.100.97 (talk) 07:25, 16 May 2008 (UTC))

Put grammar/spelling and technical langage related comments in this section

"When he is forced to kill Sam after being bitten by infected dogs, . . ." should probably be reworded to be a little clearer: "When he is forced to kill Sam after she is bitten by infected dogs, . . ." Neville is bitten (I think), but that's not the point. The point is that Sam was bitten. Markstevo (talk) 05:08, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Already fixed. — Ocatecir^T 05:13, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

The trap

(After seeing the movie, when Neville sees the mannequin, there are two facts which should lead you to believe the dark seeker set the trap: the alpha dark seeker was there with infected dogs and when Neville cuts himself down he gets pierced because the alpha dark seeker knows Neville will most likely get himself down before sundown, the only thing that would be controversial is whether this implies that the dark seeker, by using 'Fred' the mannequin, was 'stalking' Neville from the shadows KNOWING that Fred the mannequin would draw Neville's attention because Neville would know that it had been moved) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.85.30.3 (talk) 03:26, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

For the statement, ". (The plot appears to leave unresolved the possibility that the trap was one of hundreds set by Neville himself in his drive to capture the infected for study. The film suggests that the mannequin used for this snare was left elsewhere by Neville.)"

The night before Neville mentions that one of the infected does something very uncharacteristic- actually venturing out into the sun after Neville bags his catch. Neville says this is the complete loss of human touch.

The plot, however, has Neville's mannequin being moved right next a trap. I think this means that the same infected vampire that ventured out into the sun had developed some sort of intellect, at least enough to move the mannequin (which would also explain his leadership abilities later on in the movie). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ftc68 (talk • contribs) 04:42, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

I just undid that part because it is a reading of the plot by an editor, thus origional work. in order to keep to the encyclopedic format of this page, it is neccisary to just report on "what happend on the screen" not "my reading of this part is" this section has been replaced by "he was snared in a trap he didn't appear to set" which is actually what happened. Personaly I believe that the infected set the trap and can point to several sections of the movie that support this theory, however others think Neville set several traps and just got cought in one of his own...which dosn't make sence to me but that is their reading. hence we need to report on just what happened.Coffeepusher (talk) 18:02, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

It isn't original work if it's just acknowledging that different interpretation of the action exist. By your own admission ("Personaly [sic] I believe," "several sections of the movie that support this *theory*"), the reading you present as "actually what happened" is just your own reading, i.e., your original work, and your stating it in an objective voice does not cure the problem, whereas being transparent and acknowledging that differing interpretations exist, can be more encyclopedic than stating a subjective view and painting it as objective, which is actually misleading. Carlos_X (talk) 20:01, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

WP:TALK people, this is not a forum for general discussion. Alientraveller (talk) 20:03, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

when I said "actually what happened" I was refering to the events depicted on the screen, and not a reading that brought different elements into the scean. the section has been reduced to "he got cought in a snare" so this discussion has become moot anyway. Thank you for the reminder Alientraveller, I believe this discussion is still relevent to the page, however it is dangerously close to the edge.

and to answer your statement, it is original work if you acknowledge any interpretation of the action. The setting of the trap, or any other traps for that matter, didn't happen on screen so it is origional work to speculate on the topic.Coffeepusher (talk) 07:41, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia's policy, "No original research" contains a Neutral point of view (NPOV) component. As such, "this policy promotes the inclusion of multiple points of view." The guidance provides in relevant part, "In many cases, there are multiple established views of any given topic. In such cases, no single position ... is authoritative." Significantly, the guidance reminds us that "it is important that editors provide context for this point of view, by indicating how prevalent the position is, and whether it is held by a majority or minority." Therefore, the answer is not to unilaterally delete ideas you disagree with, but to acknowledge differing POV's. Editorial protocol aside, simple etiquette/netiquette dictate that before you cast aside somebody else's contribution you try to resolve it first by discussing it in a forum such as this one. Carlos_X (talk) 23:06, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

you are correct. and that is a valid point, except the fact that I deleted the section after it had erupted into a debate "on the page" with people using the statement "(The plot appears to leave unresolved the possibility that the trap was one of hundreds set by Neville himself in his drive to capture the infected for study. The film suggests that the mannequin used for this snare was left elsewhere by Neville.)" as a springboard and subsiquently adding and deleting stuff from this section...so it turned into "(there is no evidence that the infected...)" and back to "(it is obvious that neville didn't set the trap because...)" and all i did was take away the perentheses, and post on the talk page. I can understand your frustration, however I don't think my actions are inapropriate.Coffeepusher (talk) 00:18, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

I think the language where we ended up is acceptable now. Carlos_X (talk) 21:59, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Appears that Coffeepusher has done and said the right thing. There is often a temptation to get into interpretation, and even the most well-meaning editor can slip into interpretation by mistake. It's good that folks like Coffeepusher are around to calmly set the article on the right track and are able to explain clearly why they are doing what they are doing. Nice one! SilkTork *^SilkyTalk 12:55, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

The plot doesn't need to say any more than what we see on the film. What we see is that the trap is "in nature appears to be identical to his own". We do not KNOW any more than that, and we do not NEED TO KNOW any more than that, that's why you watch the film. DO NOT ADD SPECULATION INTO THE PLOT! PLEASE STOP IT. --Hm2k (talk) 14:09, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Just for the record, in the book you learn the creatures are actually very intelligent. They have been watching and thinking of ways to trap him. Superbowlbound (talk) 07:36, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Then why didnt they put on thick clothing and go out in the daytime, and during the trap scene why didnt he just use a gun and get the job done (the Infected to trapped neville)? When he broke into the apartment and saw stored food, why didnt they do that? If they can break through walls of a house and are "intelegent", they woulda hit that stash asap!

Well to rebut that dumb statement, first of all thick clothing won't make you immune to the sun. He may not of had a gun, but more importantly he wanted his mate back. And the third part makes no sense. Besides you can't argue with the book, that is what happened in the book. The creatures are smart and intelligent, but Neville believes them to be dumb. Superbowlbound (talk) 18:36, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Please, this isn't a fan site or chat page. speculation on the "why didn't they" isn't admisable on the page, so it dosn't belong on the discussion board. The film didn't give a rundown on the psycology or phisiology of the cretures, so everything here is speculation or WP:OR. Coffeepusher (talk) 19:44, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Error in article, not SR-71

The plane that looks very much like an SR-71 on the USS Intrepid is actually an A-12 OXCART, the predecessor. I have been to the Intrepid and seen it.

Mpduggan (talk) 14:46, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

I've removed the detail because it's not irrelevant to the film; saying just "plane" provides enough ambiguity. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 20:40, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Why is this page locked?

Anyone?

Anyone? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.208.248.66 (talk) 01:32, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Personal Best for Smith?

According to this page, a 155 million dollar revenue was a "Personal best for Smith." but thats not true... I mean, if the poster meant "Is a personal best for Smith over the course of such a short period of time." then that would be true, but, just off hand, the Wild Wild West brought in 222 million, so I Am Legend can't be Smith's best thus far. 71.207.138.63 (talk) 12:58, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

I beleve that it was his personal best for an opening weekend box officeCoffeepusher (talk) 16:49, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Human behavior

I disagree with this sentence (objectionable statement will be put in bold):

The remaining 588 million people were infected but did not die; they instead began exhibiting early symptoms of rabies and then lost all normal human behavior, degenerating into a primal state driven by hunger and blind rage, in turn killing a majority of the immune.

Will Smith's character claims that the infected "lost all normal human behavior", but shortly after this part of the film it's pretty clear that he is wrong. The infected still maintain social behavior and structure; further, they were clever enough to trap Will Smith's character, and they were clever enough to command dogs. Shortly after the "no human behavior" statement, we get a glimpse of them as much more intelligent than one would initially think. –Andyluciano (talk) 20:32, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

We don't personally analyze these things... if the character said it, then that's the case for the film. I really would not worry so much about it -- if we address this, then it opens up a can of worms in poking holes in the film's plot on our own. We're better off developing real-world context for the article, which the Plot section serves to complement. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 20:37, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Don't personally analyze; this is fair enough. But, in supporting the character's viewpoint, Wikipedia is in fact taking sides on this issue. I'm aware that my own personal opinions shouldn't necessarily result in additions to a Wikipedia article, but upon seeing the film I personally took it to mean that Will Smith's character was underestimating his foes. When I read the article on the novel it only confirms this: there, it seems to suggest that the protagonist is seriously misjudging the infected people, unaware that they have their own social structure, and indiscriminately kills (murders?) them, thinking they are below human abilities.

So, I guess my point was, by endorsing Will Smith's character's assessment of the situation, Wikipedia is flatly stating that a fairly easy-to-make interpretation of the plot is false. Characters in a fictional work are not always correct.

–Andyluciano (talk) 20:49, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

My suggestion is to try to make the issue ambiguous. For example, for the SR-71 discussion above, I just removed mention of what kind of plane it was since I've seen too many arguments about what kind of vehicle or weapon is used in a particular film. If it's never identified, then it's likely not relevant. For this particular case, though, try to word it to say that the protagonist believes that they lost all normal human behavior. That'll tie the "fallacious" perspective to that character. Just a thought. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 21:08, 18 December 2007 (UTC

even with the adition of the alternitave ending section, I think this issue should remain ambiguous, because further interpritation will lead to the can of worms discribed above.Coffeepusher (talk) 22:33, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Plot still too detailed

The Plot summary has been trimmed further, but at 760+ words it is still too long and detailed for a movie with a fairly straightforward storyline. I'll work on it further.
Jim Dunning | talk 04:21, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

I believe the Plot summary is truly summarized now, per Film Style Guidelines and Fiction guidelines. It describes the major events, plot twists, and characters, without going into so much detail that it reproduces the actual story. The summary can be enhanced to support any content in Response, Development and Themes sections as they evolve, but beware of Plot Bloat.
Jim Dunning | talk 04:36, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

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Survivor colony location?

How do we know the colony is in Bethel, Vermont? I only recall Anna saying Vermont, no town.
Jim Dunning | talk 19:58, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Moot. Removed specific reference from Plot summary to keep it brief.
Jim Dunning | talk 02:39, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Though I agree it is moot, she does say "We're heading to the survivors colonoy in Bethel, Vermont" Lax15o (talk) 14:00, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

I guess we can consider it moot since the article has said "Bethel, Vermont" for a while now.
Jim Dunning | talk 14:45, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Anna

I just got back from seeing this movie a second time and Anna said she was from Maryland, not Brazil. How could she have heard the Radio message and make it all the way up to New York if she was from Brazil? :)

Edit: Alice Braga, the girl who plays Anna, in real life is from Brazil. Anna herself is from Maryland. Please change the article to fit this. Caption1247 (talk) 02:37, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

She left Sao Paula and drove to Manhattan (which raises more questions as to how she managed to do so if all the bridges were destroyed) from Maryland. 66.177.131.56 (talk) 05:49, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Her character was from Sao Paulo, Brazil. She was with the Red Cross, and ended up in Maryland after the ships they were on became contaminated and a number of people became infected. Post-ship life she (and Ethan, possibly others) were located in Maryland where they heard the broadcast. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.245.101.232 (talk) 23:52, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

The actress is from Brazil. The Red Cross character Anna came from Maryland or she, the little boy (little brother?), and three other survivors came from a navy ship or hospital ship that came from Maryland from a Naval fleet that broke up. Nowhere does it say anything about Brazil only that the rest of the world is now full of zombies according to Dr. Neville. Whether the character Anna is from Brazil or Europe since she sounds like she has a foreign accent is not certain and doesn't really matter. She, her little brother, and three other survivors were "guided" (by God according to Anna) to NYC by Dr. Neville's radio messages. The three other survivors that were with Anna and the little boy were killed by the zombies on their journey to find Dr. Neville in NYC.--Pilot expert (talk) 21:45, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure Anna says she originally came from Sao Paulo. Of course, we don't know whether she means the large city in Brazil a relatively short distance from the Atlantic or some other city of the same name. Since she doesn't clarify it further for Neville (and there are no other notable cities of the same name anywhere), we are probably safe in assuming it's the well-known city. She then mentions coming most recently from Maryland; how she gets there from a ship near Sao Paulo is anyone's guess. Also, I don't think she ever mentions Ethan's relationship to her or where he joined her; she does say he is immune and the inference is that he was on the (evacuation? treatment?) ship with her.
Jim Dunning | talk 22:26, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Nope. Other than "the rest of the world", I haven't heard any other specific place mentioned other than New York City (where the movie takes place), the White House (where the POTUS makes a speech on the radio), Maryland (where Anna, Ethan, and the three other survivors traveled from or their ship traveled from), and Vermont where one of the survivor colony is located. After just watching the movie when it first premiered, I had to look up Alice Braga's bio in wikipedia and IMDB to see where she was from out of curiosity since she sounded like she had a foreign accent. I thought she might be from Puerto Rico (since the movie takes place in New York City), Europe, or South America. This movie is still new but wait awhile after it comes out in DVD (where it will have subtitles) and check the script IMSDB when they post it in the future. You'll see if Brazil is mentioned or not.--Pilot expert (talk) 22:51, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm fairly certain she does mention Sao Paulo, Brazil (mostly cause I don't know a thing about the actress and I still walked away with that impression, think it's tied in with an explanation of the Red Cross ship), but waiting for DVD is never a bad idea. Anyways, her origin isn't important to the plot, it's only used to help root how she believes in God due to her heritage (Brazil is mostly Catholic) and supposedly hearing his voice and plan.72.192.206.80 (talk) 04:10, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Just saw it. I'm pretty sure she does say Sao Paulo. I know she said she was from somewhere outside America, then more recently Maryland. And I don't know anything about the actress personally. Although I'm still wondering how she got into NY when there were no bridges. Itsmeiam (talk) 07:12, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

That's what other movie fans were wondering. The express tunnels would have also been flooded (like in the movie Daylight) as the bridge was being blown up by F/A-18 Hornets from the nearby Carrier Battle Group.--Pilot expert (talk) 12:37, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

In the Spanish dubbing, she first says they come from Maryland. Later she says something about the Red Cross and Sao Paulo, but I did not understand if she was correcting herself or adding new information. --Error (talk) 22:23, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Provided we are not asked to swallow something too fantastic, we enter into a suspension of disbelief agreement with the film maker which means that we know there are going to be bits that wouldn't happen in real life, but we ignore them for the greater benefit of the general enjoyment. However, at no point does the film suggest that Manhattan is totally cut off, so people are free to supply their own explanations. I think that Anna made a raft out of the Infected people and used that to float away. SilkTork *^SilkyTalk 13:45, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

I thought she said Scotland! Did anyone else hear that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.99.44.174 (talk) 20:32, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

I heard Ireland at first which was very surprising. But meh, I'm deaf.
On sky movies they have a special on the making of this film running quite a bit to promote it. The director says that she comes from Sao Paulo as it helps give the film a more global feel and not just a NY catastrophy.--Him and a dog 20:47, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Anna is from Sao Paolo, Brazil. The movie is unclear whether Anna makes her way from Sao Paolo to the US on a boat as a result of the catastrophe or whether she had immigrated to the US long ago and was caught up in the catastrophe here. What is clear is that she is on a boat off the coast of Maryland and lands with Ethan and three other survivors (who she informs us are killed by dark seekers), hears the broadcast and is off to South Street Seaport to meet up with Will Smith. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.85.30.3 (talk) 03:31, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

I just checked. Her exact line is: "I was on a Red Cross evacuation ship out of Sao Paulo." Barnabypage (talk) 15:35, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Seems to me that the character says "we came from Maryland", not "we come from Maryland". That makes all the difference. The first means "we were there before, and now we are here"; the latter would mean "we are originally from that place".
About Barnabypage's quote above, the character does say that, and that is actually the main inaccuracy in the movie, I would say. One cannot be on a "ship out of São Paulo" because, as a city, São Paulo is landlocked, 35 miles, or 55 kilometers, away from the shoreline. A ship such as a Red Cross ship, carrying many people, would tipically dock in Santos, which also happens to be the largest port in Latin America.
On a personal note, I would assume that Alice Braga, who plays the character and has the line and who is Brazilian and from São Paulo, might have tipped the writers off on this huge geographical quid pro quo. That she didn't probably relates to the fact that she is a newcomer and probably doesn't have the influence to point out something like this and ask for a last-minute change in the script. Redux (talk) 17:57, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Incorrect linking

The link for "put down" in reference to Neville having to put down his dog, Sam, should not be linked to animal euthanasia and should instead be linked to strangling, the dog was strangled not euthanized.

140.175.214.35 (talk) 20:43, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Take a look at Animal euthanasia: it says, "Animal euthanasia (Greek, "good death") is the act of inducing humane death in an animal. Euthanasia methods are designed to cause minimal pain and distress. In pet animals, this process is commonly referred to by the euphemisms 'put to sleep' or "put down"." This is exactly what Neville does to Sam. If you look further in the Animal euthanasia article you'll see that it even lists the reasons for "putting" a pet down, including terminal illness or dangerous behavior (which both apply in this case).

While strangulation is the method Neville used (we assume), the method is not important, but the intention is (he could just have easily injected Sam with poison or shot her in the head, but the intent of saving her from a horrible fate is the focus). I hope this helps.
Jim Dunning | talk 21:10, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

My interpretation was that the injection he gave caused the death, and the exertion on his part was simply through trying to hold the dog still to stop it injuring him as it mutated (?) whilst the injection did it's job. Either way as it's open to interpretation maybe it should be left a little more ambiguous?JC Laser (talk) 09:51, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

In my opinion, it's highly likely that he killed the dog by strangulation, but you are entirely correct to say that it would be interpretation to word it as such in the plot summary; the camera at no point leaves Neville's face during the dog's death. Let's see if we can come up with some appropriate alternative wording. Steve ^{T • C} 09:55, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

I've been thinking about this scene as well. My initial interpretation was that Neville strangled Sam, which would've been entirely within his character, given how close the two were. However, as I think about it more, it's possible that once he injected Sam with the potential cure -- which didn't work -- he simply held onto her knowing that the "cure" would kill her shortly. Thus, he treats her knowing that either the injection will cure her or "put her down" quickly. However, since the camera never leaves Neville's face, we really have no way of knowing the specifics. (Of course, another valid interpretation is that he injects her with the treatment that he knows will kill her (recall the rat), and there's never any intent to save her, just kill her, but then again, why not just use a bullet . . . . Mmmmmm, tough one.
Jim Dunning | talk 12:09, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

I guess we have three options:

• Ambiguate the wording sufficiently to allow no conclusion to be drawn, though perhaps robbing the description of Neville's subsequent actions of context.
• Insert a citation (of which I'm sure there are hundreds) in order to keep the current wording.
• Go for a looser interpretation of WP:CITE (which only remarks that citations should be used when a statement is likely to be challenged) and reach a consensus that he did indeed strangle (or at least kill) the poor mutt.

Thoughts? Steve ^{T • C} 12:29, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

I've gone for the first option - reading it, nothing is lost context-wise, and it's sufficient to leave the reader to draw his or her own conclusion. Steve ^{T • C} 12:51, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

"possibly Earth's only survivor of a man-made virus."

The mutants are also survivors. I think you might want to change this to unaffected survivor or something, since it's fairly inaccurate as is. --81.178.89.152 (talk) 00:47, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Agreed, but I'd say "not as clear as it should be" rather than "fairly inaccurate". lol. Thanks,
Jim Dunning | talk 01:07, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

I fixed it.--Patrick (talk) 02:22, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

IMAX performance

• I Am Legend Strong in IMAX —Erik (talk • contrib) - 16:33, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Recent film tag

I have to agree with Liquidfinale (Steve) on the lack of need for the {{Recent film}} tag. A week or so ago it may have arguably been useful, but content is fairly stable now. Tweaks -- good and bad -- to the Plot section are ongoing as people return from seeing it, but not much significant changes. The balance of the article is fairly well developed and balanced, and readers should have no difficulty in encountering a neutral, informative and stable piece of Wikipedia.
Jim Dunning | talk 21:57, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

The film was released 12 days ago — it's still a recent film. The {{recent death}} tag is not removed when article content is stable. --Pixelface (talk) 23:58, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

And this film was released 12 days ago, yet this article has been edited 54 times today. Is that stable? --Pixelface (talk) 00:17, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Indeed; especially considering that were the tag to escape deletion, there is as yet no guidance as to its use or what it is actually for. To merely tell people that this is a recent film? Unnecessary. To tell people that the article may warrant expansion and as yet does not come up to scratch? Perhaps... on other articles, but not this one, which has plenty of production information and is only really short on critical reaction. Best regards, Steve ^{T • C} 22:08, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

And if you want guidance on its use or what's it's for, you can see Template talk:Recent film. --Pixelface (talk) 00:14, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

That is not guidance; it's a basic instruction for use. What I'm talking about is the rationale. You are arguing for this tag's existence based upon the fact that, um, this tag exists! Please tell me what exact benefit the tag adds to this article specifically. Please tell me. Steve ^{T • C} 00:53, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

The tag puts this article into Category:Recent films. By looking at Category:Recent films, editors can see which films have been recently released and help improve those articles. The template {{recent film}} is like the {{recent death}} template, only for films instead of people. It's meant to be a counterpart to the {{future film}} template. The template {{current product}} has existed since September, and if {{recent film}} is deleted, I'm just going to use that template instead. --Pixelface (talk) 01:37, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

That doesn't answer the questions I have posed here, nor those on your talk page. Steve ^{T • C} 01:57, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

I think I have answered your questions. What are you unclear on? This article has been edited at least 54 times today and the film was released 12 days ago. The {{recent film}} tag says information in an article may change rapidly. That is certainly the case here. This film was released 12 days ago, it is a recent film, so the category the {{recent film}} template puts this article into, Category:Recent films, is appropriate. The benefit the {{recent film}} tag adds to this article is similar to the benefit that the {{recent death}} tag adds to the Ike Turner article. --Pixelface (talk) 02:11, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

It's as unnecessary as tagging an article with {{recent death}}. The {{recent film}} tag is meant to be a counterpart to {{future film}}. Once {{future film}} is removed, {{recent film}} can be placed on the article. The template is meant to indicate that an article may change rapidly. It is also meant to encourage editors to work on an article. I added "You can help by expanding this article" to the {{recent film}} template because that text appears in the {{current product}} template and I think it's a good message. --Pixelface (talk) 00:02, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm getting frustrated with someone saying the purpose of a tag like this is its "name", and that the message associated with it is ancillary, or even meaningless. In this case, the tag is initially placed on this article with the message "Some information may change rapidly as more facts become known." We dispute that the article is still very dynamic, so someone adds to the template message "You can help by expanding this article," to make it applicable in an attempt to nullify the dispute. What is it with this moving target strategy? It's ridiculous. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JimDunning (talk • contribs) 23:21, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

No, I added "You can help by expanding this article" to the {{recent film}} template because that text appears in the {{current product}} template. I don't appreciate you accusing me of "playing games" Jim. Category:Current events says "When used properly, it invites any user to fill in the Wiki community on the latest information about the subject of an article." The template {{recent film}} should also encourage editors to add the latest information about the film. I am not using some "moving target strategy."

If there is consensus on this talk page that the {{recent film}} template should not be in the article because I Am Legend is not a recent film, fine. You've both made your opinions known. I think the template should stay. I think the template should stay in the article until there is a consensus to delete the template at the TFD. --Pixelface (talk) 00:12, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Good Article Nomination?

Would it be possible to bring this to Good Article Nominations? It looks like a good candidate. Rt. 16:22, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

I would wait. While it is fairly stable, the frequent and expected Plot description tweaks are going to continue. GA likes stability.
Jim Dunning | talk 16:37, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, considering my GA reviewing experience, I'd have to agree. Thanks though. Regards, Rt. 16:47, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

I agree with the need for stability, but I also think that this article needs a larger Critical reaction section, something similar to Road to Perdition#Reception. We haven't given readers a full idea of what critics thought of the film. In addition, the Headlines section above should be reviewed to make sure that all the background information is fully implemented. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 17:00, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

"last healthy human survivor" vs. "remaining 0.2% are immune"

I haven't seen this movie, but this still doesn't make sense, article-wise.

The first paragraph of the summary states that 90% died, 9.8% survived but are infected, and 0.2% are immune - the latter including Will Smith.

Now, 0.2% is a lot, when we're talking about human population. That's 12 million worldwide, or 16000 in New York City alone. Will Smith would be far from alone.

I'm assuming that the movie has explanations for this, so the Wiki article should reflect this as well. Though the statistics may have been pulled out of somebody's ass, in which case they should be removed completely. Cine (talk) 20:07, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

I made a correction. Also note the "Three years later".--Patrick (talk) 00:38, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Firstly they evacuated New York, assuming the eye scans allowed people who were immune to leave, that covers that, secondly it doesn't state where the 0.2% is in the world, 99% of it could be in Africa for all we know... I'm not sure this really matters for the plot, as this is just what we're told by the film. It's not open for discussion. --Hm2k (talk) 14:04, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

They didn't evacuate New York, they quarantined it, hoping to isolate the disease in NYC, letting out only those who were healthy. The scanner showing a 'false' positive on the wife shows that strategy isn't going to work.

Since no one can agree on what was actually said in the film about the specific percentages, I'm generalizing them to over 90% dead, more than 9% survive but infected (transformed), and less than 1% are immune. I guess we can wait for the DVD to come out to pin it down. Of course, the specifics really aren't that crucial: these figures certainly paint the picture . . . .
Jim Dunning | talk 01:49, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

When talking to Anna, Neville gives the break down. He states that 90% of people died, killing over 5.4 B of the 6.0 B people. He says "less than 1%" were immune, further stating that only 12 M people on the planet were immune. 12 M is 0.2% of 6 B. Therefore, it's 0.2% of the population immune. Further, he states that 544 M were turned into "your dark seekers", which fed on the immune and remains of the dead.

Incorect. If you watch it again, when they dont let the wife go thru, you can hear her say "Im not infected!" and the other women who was asking them to take her baby, was infected. she looked like her eye was bleeding, etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.126.22.204 (talk) 05:26, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

How is that incorrect? The woman either had not yet succumbed to the agression, or was going to die rather then become agressive.Lax15o (talk) 14:11, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Actually the movie was pretty clear, the disease had a 90% instant mortality rate. I believe Will Smith said that 1% survvived outright but essentially were overwhelmed by the 9% dark seeker rate.

Movie Spiritual Content

There is no mention about the heavy spiritual content of the movie (science versus religion, redemption, faith, etc.) that is significantly departing from Matheson's novel. See this excellent review for instance [5]. The studio have also set up a website: www.godstilllovesus.org! Sfoucher (talk) 20:14, 27 December 2007 (UTC) no he doesnt —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.168.245.122 (talk) 07:25, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

The World Without Us links

There are two links involving material by Alan Weisman. The first is a Popular Mechanics article on the film discussing the science of the film. I think that's useful. The second, however, is tangentially related. It shows a series of images of what New York would be like without humans. I'm not convinced of the usefulness of this link. And I am concerned it might encourage other such tangential links. SilkTork *^SilkyTalk 11:40, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

I think the former would be more useful as implemented into the article. Alientraveller (talk) 12:50, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Here's the link [6] Do what you would want. Alientraveller (talk) 12:54, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

I have summarized the article into the criticism section. --Error (talk) 22:33, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Distressed by Sam's death, etc

There's been a few attempts to word the section of the plot where Neville attacks the Infected in a suicidal manner. "Knowing that his only live companion left is gone"; "Distressed by Sam's death"; "He appears distressed by his loneliness"; "In anger"; "Despondent over the death of Sam, Neville suicidally attacks"; "When he is forced to choke his dog companion to death after an attack by the Infected, he nearly commits suicide by attacking". It's a difficult moment because there is this desire to give some detail as to why he attacks the Infected. But the reason he does it is open to interpretation. Between the dog's death and the attack comes the scene in the shop where he talks to the mannequin, so there is the sense that it a general feeling of loneliness. But that is interpretation. That he attacks the Infected is fact. Why he attacks the Infected is interpretation and should be left to the Critical Reception section. We don't actually know he is distressed by the dog's death enough to kill himself. Would it be OK to say that he is distressed?

While helping him escape, Sam is bitten by an Infected dog and begins transforming, so Neville puts her down. In a distressed state he attacks a group of Infected that night at the South Street Seaport and is nearly killed himself...

Or would that imply that the distress was the result of the dog's death?

While helping him escape, Sam is bitten by an Infected dog and begins transforming, so Neville puts her down. Later that night he attacks a group of Infected at the South Street Seaport and is nearly killed himself...

How about adding wildly or recklessly?

While helping him escape, Sam is bitten by an Infected dog and begins transforming, so Neville puts her down. Later that night he recklessly attacks a group of Infected at the South Street Seaport and is nearly killed himself... SilkTork *^SilkyTalk 15:28, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Would it be appropriate to indicate that he is aware of and disturbed by his loneliness? SilkTork *^SilkyTalk 15:28, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Good points. I go with adding "recklessly". Certainly his behavior is out of character, so reckless works, but no interpretation of why he acts so is included.
Jim Dunning | talk 15:48, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

It's suffice to say he's most defiantly "troubled" by the loss for the purpose of the plot, this is accurate, but yes, why he went on the rampage is open to interpretation, but it's clearly a direct influence of the loss. There's a distinct display of sadness, followed by depression. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.152.138.226 (talk) 18:05, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

"The Infected"

If you're using "the infected" as a name for these (zombie-like/vampire-like) creatures, since it's quoted from somewhere else (see http://uk.rottentomatoes.com/m/i_am_legend/about.php), in which it's also quoted, you then MUST also quote it in the same way, otherwise using the term "the infected" is simply common language, and should NOT have a capital I on infected. PLEASE STOP CHANGING IT! --Hm2k (talk) 18:12, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Religious Propaganda in the Plot Summary

Perhaps the Plot summary should refer to the blatant religious propaganda in the movie. It would be important information for people who want to see movies like that or for people who want to avoid them. (PSG) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.126.151.171 (talk • contribs)

Blatant in your own opinion. Alientraveller (talk) 19:22, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

There is a bit of religion in the film but it's not pressed and only has about a minute of screen time. Wolfmankurd (talk) 01:19, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

True that it only appears shortly. In my opinion, they probably did that so they can justify the movie appealing to different audiences. E.G(Philosophy: Reason to live ,, Scientists: Consequences of cures(??), Religion(Christanity): "Science screwed you all over, as seen in I Am legend." etc.) It wasn't like that movie Hilary Swank was in which was extremely leniant towards pro-christianity. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DrTheKay (talk • contribs) 08:19, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

The religious themes have a lot of screen time, not just a minute or two. 1) The TIME Magazine cover with the word "SAVIOR" in large print 2) The crucifix on the rearview mirror when Robert is rescued 3) Robert yelling "LET ME SAVE YOU! I CAN SAVE YOU!" note the word "save" as opposed to "cure" or "help" 4) The most obvious of course, Robert sacrificing himself for the good of man. Religion was a pretty strong theme in this movie. I'm surprised it doesn't merit at least a mention in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.186.155.167 (talk) 04:44, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Without citations of reliable sources, this is personal conjecture. If the religious aspect of the film is strong, then there should be reliable sources that provide verifiable coverage about it. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 05:02, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

The crucifix is most likely a reference to the book, in which the cross actually does repel (some) vampires, and in which the female character wears a cross, which is specifically noted in the description of her. If it's related to anything else I guess we'll find out when the writers/director provide commentary on that scene. Jtsummers (talk) 03:41, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

And one sacrificing themselves for the good of mankind can hardly be considered religious overtones.Lax15o (talk) 06:00, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Just an anti-religeous person trying to protest even the smallest influence of religion in a movie; it figures. Travis T. Cleveland (talk) 01:42, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

I've just seen this movie and I agree that the religious motives are quite obvious. The whole scene where Neville discusses with Anna whether God has sent her to him, that God has told her about the existence of the survivors colony, and that God has a plan for the humanity is clearly of religious nature. Moreover, the ending in which Neville eventually believes in Neville, and therefore sacrifices himself, clearly states the religious view that the movie is trying to convey. I also found it rather surprising that there is no comment at all about this in the article, specially considering that none of this themes occur in the original novel (which states a quite opposite point, in the original Neville finds out at the end that he, in the view of "the infected", is a monster; thus the name "i am legend"). --NavarroJ (talk) 05:10, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

all of that is in the movie, but the problem occurs that we can't type the movie line for line so we need to keep the plot down to the relevent main plot points...note that there is very little talk about how he deals with his lonelyness by dressing up maniquins, very little on the sexual tension between him and the "girl" in the video store...or how that is the catalist that brings him to the reality of his situation and drives him to suicide after sam died. and not alot about him and Sam even though that is a main section of the movie. There where many instances of "god" appearing in the film, but they didn't tie to main plot points outside of a speculative interpritations. I agree, but I don't think that it belongs in the plot summery...no matter how strongly I believe in God. Coffeepusher (talk) 06:29, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Oncolytic virus?

New material has been added to the Plot description that is unfamiliar to me. Is this original research by the editor (anon IP) or was all of this actually mentioned in the film? Specifically, it is the references to "oncolytic virus" and "hemorrhagic fever". I don't recall Krippen going into that much technical detail; she was on some morning news show, so the content doesn't seem appropriate to the audience. Also, the pandemic stats keep changing and I can't recall all of them, but for some reason "1%" sticks in my mind. Can anyone confirm that the medical detail is in the film and nail down the figures?
Jim Dunning | talk 19:47, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

I don't think it's necessary to include such detail if it wasn't mentioned in the film. It's too much of a specialist's assertion -- not what a reader in general would know. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 20:46, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

An Oncolytic virus attacks cancer cells and therefore a cancer curing virus would be an oncolytic virus but the detail is unnessesary. I think I remember a reference to hemorrhagic fever but again this isn't needed.Wolfmankurd (talk) 01:23, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

I was just informed by Erik that I accedentily added this part back after it's deletion. I was reverting another edit, and I am sorry for the confusion...um...I agree that it is way to complicated and should be deleted.Coffeepusher (talk) 02:50, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

They say it's measles, but that's that. Through the rest of the movie Neville only refers to it as "the virus". Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 18:38, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Trivia Section

Something I think should be add to the trivia section of the article would be the watch Neville uses in the film. If someone knows what's the watch he uses added to the trivia section (with a link to the official watch brand site). Snowstone (talk) 02:48, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Trivia sections are generally avoided. I'm also afraid the watch model type would not be of interest in an encyclopedia.
Jim Dunning | talk 03:19, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

I concur with Jim -- perhaps you can go to the IMDb page for I Am Legend and see if that is available there. If not, you can submit the information there if you find it. It doesn't belong in an encyclopedic article. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 06:26, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Marley influence

I'm getting tired of people deleting the note I am adding. I'd personally like to stress the significance of Bob Marley in the title. However, I am under the influence that Bob Marley was a chosen idol for Neville AFTER the title was chosen, as the book was made first (despite how the movie and book were very different.)

In real life, Bob Marley is regarded as 'Legend'. At the end of the movie, Neville becomes regarded as 'Legend' also, which goes to show how he followed in the steps of his personal idol, thus "I Am Legend". —Preceding unsigned comment added by DrTheKay (talk • contribs) 12:10, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry you're frustrated about your Marley contribution, but the reason I removed it was that it appeared to be your analysis of the film, not that of a credible source, such as an established reviewer or even the film's director or producer. You even say, "I'd personally like to stress the significance of Bob Marley in the title," indicating it is your observation. As WP editors/contributors, we can only reference observations and analyses of reliable sources, and then we must cite then appropriately so others are able to verify them. Otherwise our contributions are considered original research, which is not allowed in WP.

If a credible Marley source can be found, its inclusion in the article would likely fit in Development or a future Themes section (you could even be the editor that starts the Themes section). I did a quick search, however, and any credible references to Marley influences or themes are slim to none (this doesn't count mentions in blogs, which are not considered credible sources). There is this one, but it doesn't offer much. Another one is more explicit, but not well-written. The Marley influence is fairly obvious (Neville's daughter is named Marley, even), but since there aren't many references in reviews, it doesn't yet appear significant enough to include in the article.

I hope this helps. Don't hesitate to check the Page History of the article and look for the revision that removed or changed your contribution. If the editor is worth her or his salt, an informative Edit Summary will at least give a hint as to the concern or issue.
Jim Dunning | talk 14:19, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

But that's the point, I don't tihnk that in the novel that the main character was a fan of Bob Marley. Why else would the director choose for Bob Marley to be Neville's music inspiration? Because Bob Marley is also "Legend" and thus it goes well with the film. Thankyou for you lengthy post nonetheless. Here is the source: http://www.rollingstonesnet.com/images/BobMarleyLegend.jpg —Preceding unsigned comment added by DrTheKay (talk • contribs) 14:44, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Since Bob was only five or six when the novel was published, you're right, novel Neville could not have been a fan. Unfortunately for your purposes a picture of a Marley album cover is not a suitable source to support your observation (for WP). You need someone else to make the connection and publish it. Even mention in the Plot section of Neville's comments about Marley may not gain agreement from other editors, if it isn't considered notable enough. Sorry for the lengthy responses -- just wanted to give a complete explanation.
Jim Dunning | talk 15:00, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

I concur with Jim about the Marley connection. It's a connection being made where one didn't exist before. If you could find an independent source talking about how and why the director incorporated the music in the film, it may warrant inclusion. You should check out the yet-implemented headlines above for that. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 17:01, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Good idea. Sorry, Erik: I forgot you harvested those excellent sources. I checked through them, however, and there's no mention of Bob Marley. Doesn't mean that one won't show up down the road.
Jim Dunning | talk 17:14, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

So what you're basically saying is that it is merely a conicidence that Bob Marley a.k.a LEGEND happened to be the director's choice for Neville's music inspiration in "I Am **LEGEND**"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by DrTheKay (talk • contribs) 04:04, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

No: I'm sure it's no coincidence the producers/director chose Marley and his music (and wrote the accompanying commentary from Neville) and the Legend tie-in, but since it appears no credible source has published anything making that connection, then it cannot be mentioned in this article. If and when you or someone else finds such an analysis, then by all means include it in the article.
Jim Dunning | talk 04:46, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

PS: Please sign your posts with four tildes (~~~~) so your signature and timestamp show.
Jim Dunning | talk 04:48, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Movie poster

Noticed something while watching the movie. when neville is tracking a deer through what looked like Time Square there is a movie poster with the Superman S symbol and on the background on the same poster is the Batman symbol. the movie IS set in the future, 2009 i think, but i haven't heard anything about a crossover movie. anyone else heard anything--Irishboi (talk) 14:43, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Yep, it's just an Easter egg, read this MTV article. It's because the screenwriters used to work on a script for Batman vs. Superman. And to the rest of the editors, I think we should try to incorporate this into the article. It's like the third time we've gotten this question. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 15:23, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Neville's "sacrifice"

In the Plot description I've written that Neville "sacrifices himself" when he saves Anna and Ethan and then blows up himself and the attackers with the grenade. This has been changed numerous times to "kills himself" or "blows himself up" or some variation thereof. Am I attributing too much to the action by using the word "sacrifice" and therefor it should be "kills"?
Jim Dunning | talk 19:31, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Honestly, it seems clear that he sacrifices himself. With the creatures destroyed, Anna and the kid are able to get out. Neville tells them to wait until morning so they can come out safely, especially with the sun out. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 20:57, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

In any event, doesn't Anna use the word "sacrifice" in her closing narration, thus heading off any accusations of interpretation in the summary? Best regards, Steve ^{T • C} 23:09, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Anna says: "..He gave his life to defend it.." or something like that :/ I'm not sure... Magnifier (talk) 18:15, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

But wouldn't giving your life to defend something be, by definition, a sacrifice?99.238.247.208 (talk) 05:54, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes, which is why the section currently uses the word. Best regards, Steve ^{T • C} 08:54, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

"possibly Earth's only survivor of a man-made virus."

This is incorrect, as the film shows us. There are other survivors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.16.15.240 (talk) 00:29, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

It was true until other survivors showed up.--Patrick (talk) 00:33, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

The point of "possibly" is to renact the feeling towards the movie in the beginning or when you first see the trailer, as in you wonder if this really is the only man alive, so its better to begin the plot in wikipedia that way as well. It will also limit the opening plot spoilers.—Preceding unsigned comment added by DrTheKay (talk • contribs) 05:27, January 1, 2008

To be honest I do not like the way it is phrased, to me it sounds like its coming from a person who has not yet seen the movie, and is looking at it in a preview way. Just my thoughts however. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.122.219.4 (talk) 14:07, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I changed it. "Possibly" is ambiguous: is the editor not sure, or is the story ambiguous, or is it from the pov of the character? Besides, the mutants are also survivors. And the fact that a character thinks something does not spoil what is really the case.--Patrick (talk) 15:46, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

article deleted

While looking around on wikipedia, i find that the I am legend article is gone. Is it going to be fix soon? --Kunz506 (talk) 19:37, 2 January 2008 (UTC)kunz506

Try I Am Legend. Is that what you're looking for, the novel's article?
Jim Dunning | talk 19:55, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

No, someone deleted the whole article but when i checked back, it was restored. But thanks anyway.--Kunz506 (talk) 18:22, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Difference of meaning of name from the novel

First, allow me to quote the last line of the Plot section of the article:

Anna and Ethan escape to Vermont and locate the survivors' colony, where Anna hands over the cure. In the closing voice-over, she states that Neville's cure enabled humanity to survive and rebuild, establishing his legend.

Second, quote the last line of the plot section from the novel:

As he dies he reflects on how the new society of the living infected regards him as a monster. Just as vampires were regarded as legendary monsters that preyed on the vulnerable humans in their beds, Neville has become a mythical figure that kills both vampires and the infected living while they are sleeping. He becomes a legend as the vampires once were, hence the title "I Am Legend".

I think this large difference should be incorporated somewhere in the article. Thoughts?

Those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. (talk) 15:14, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

If there is a significant difference between the meanings (or possible interpretations) of the novel's and film's titles, then a reference to it would be a candidate for inclusion in the article, probably in the Development or Critical Response sections. However, no matter how "obvious" the difference may be, we, as WP editors, cannot be the ones originating that analysis per WP:NOR. If a reliable source can be found that makes the analysis for us, then by all means, work it into the article (and cite it).

I haven't read the novel in ages, so I can't attest to how the "legend" is handled in the book, but one problem with your example above is that you are quoting not from the original works being compared, but a synthesis of each written by WP contributors. In fact, as I look at the pertinent passage from the Plot summary of the novel, it in itself appears to be WP:OR. "[H]ence the title "I Am Legend" seems to be an editor's interpretation and should be removed from the article unless a good source can be found to support it (there are none referenced in the article at this time). That issue points out why we can and should only reference reliable sources; we have no way of knowing at this point if the comparison made above is even accurate since it doesn't even refer to the original material and the conclusion is unsourced.
Jim Dunning | talk 15:44, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

I agree with DukeDoom that the ending is thematically different. While the passage he provided isn't in verbatim from the novel itself, it's fairly in line (in my opinion) with explaining the original ending. It may be worth finding reliable sources by critics who compare the film to the source material or even the previous film adaptations. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 17:48, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

I've been looking. The most promising source may be an interview with Matheson (2003) in Rue Morgue magazine, but I'm having a devil of a time finding the content (or decent reference to it). Same for a 1999 interview with him. I agree that it would be a good addition to the article.
Jim Dunning | talk 17:57, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Although I suppose this is a dead topic, I feel obliged to point out that a blind adherence to "best practice" in this case approaches idiocy. The difference in meaning can be seen by anyone with access to the two sources and a working understanding of English: while a comparison may be disallowed, a simple statement of the facts would accomplish the same goal. Both the book and the film explicitly reference the "legend", and explain what it means. This is only an "analysis" in the same sense that any summary is an analysis. Contention (talk) 20:03, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Maryland/Ireland

I thought she said Ireland. She seemed to have an accent, and so I suppose Maryland and Ireland would sound similar, but I'm pretty sure it was Ireland. J-ſtan^Contribs_{User page} 21:25, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

She said Maryland. Besides, how would she hear a radio broadcast form new York in Ireland? Furthermore, there's already a section for speculation about where she said she was fromLax15o (talk) 05:17, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Americans like rotten tomatoes or Rotten Tomatoes like american movies better?

It appears the RT ratings are inflated, possibly because the movie/story are of American origin. The japanese anime movie "Blue Gender" is a better and deeper threatise on the makind subued by horror illness theme and I've read a book by Peter Bogati titled "Last man standing" that makes more out of the story of a person left alone in the whole world. Sorrowfully pro-anglosaxon bias makes "en.wikipedia.org" act and feel like "us-uk.wikipedia.org". 82.131.210.162 (talk) 18:55, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Go have a shower, nerd. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.168.142.143 (talk) 17:21, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

You may want to initiate dialogue about your concerns with Rotten Tomatoes at WT:FILM, not here. I personally think that Rotten Tomatoes should only serve as a rule of thumb for diagnosing films. If you look at where reviews come from, they're usually US- or UK-centric. From my work on critical reactions of films, there are rarely any non-English reviews out there that are translated to English, hence whatever inflation you may perceive. Besides, I Am Legend is only "Fresh" at the very threshold -- the films being touted for award season are easily in the 85%+ range. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 19:02, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Reviews are reviews, and I know who shares my opinion of a good movie, and who dosn't...and this is a discussion page of I am legend, not a chat room. Please keep the discussion on the article. Coffeepusher (talk) 06:13, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

It looks like you're just going to have to live with it user 82.131.210.162 Travis T. Cleveland (talk) 01:41, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Film Rating

wat is the rating 4 this film? can some1 add it plz? 122.57.212.24 (talk) 09:31, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

You should usually check out the official website for that information; you can access it here. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 16:51, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Differences between the film and the novel

For those who've been clamouring for it, there's something here which might be of use:

• Tasha Robinson (2008-02-08). "Book Vs. Film Special Mega Bonus Edition: I Am Legend". The A.V. Club. Retrieved 2008-02-09. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)

I'd perhaps be inclined to include any usable information in a Writing section within the Development section, rather than in one called, well, Differences between the film and the novel, but that's up to whoever ends up putting it in. All the best, Steve ^{T • C} 15:46, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

It appears that any material garnered from Tasha Robinson's critique will be more appropriate in the Critical reception section rather than Writing. She does not reference or discuss the adaptation process at all, but merely does a high-level comparison between the original book and the various films it spawned. Possibly quoting her "All of Manhattan is his, and he takes advantage of it, and much of the first hour of the film is spent watching him in that process. Which is about as close as I Am Legend gets to the book." assertion may all we could do. Information on the screenwriters' adaptation process would be interesting and useful, but Robinson's unsourced critique provides no help.
Jim Dunning | talk 16:23, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Ah, I must admit to having not read her piece yet. I just happened to see it in passing and thought it might be of some use. Steve ^{T • C} 17:07, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

GA Review

GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is reasonably well written:

   Pass Very well written.

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable:

   Pass There are plenty of sources to the article, which are layed out the way they should be.

3. It is broad in its coverage:

   Pass just about every aspect of the film is covered.

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy:

   Pass no problems there.

5. It is stable:

   Pass no problems there.

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate:

   Pass though more images or charts (particularly a chart of the cast or of any awards) would be very useful.

7. Overall:

   Pass Definately GA quality writing. -Ed! (talk) 23:36, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Noah Flood Story?

Humanity is (nearly) wiped out by a disaster. One man is destined to and called on by God to save the remainder (who, I noticed, appeared to be Christian, though there's no way I can say they all were.) Mix in all the talk of our 'immoral' society, much like the supposed wicked society before the flood. (Aside: Not honestly going to rigorously defend this. Unless the Director comes out and says it himself, it's something of an untenable position.) Jachra (talk) 10:17, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, it's an interesting position, one which has been brought up here a couple of times IIRC. While any religious allusions seemed to me to be only very lightly touched upon in the film, I'd certainly not object to the addition of something, as long as it was properly sourced. It wouldn't necessarily have to be the director or writers who advanced the position; an analysis from a good, independent reliable source would also do the trick. All the best, Steve ^{T • C} 10:35, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Note: Will Smith compared Neville to Job, which is in the casting section. Alientraveller (talk) 13:13, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Trivia or not?

An anon IP added this as a Trivia item —

In the first scenes where Neville is hunting deer in & around Times Square, a large billboard advertisement is seen in the background which incorporates both the Batman & Superman logos into one (similar to Superman/Batman monthly from DC Comics). Whether this is a fictional or future Warner Bros. movie project (the ad is dated as 2012) remains to be seen since they currently own the development rights for both characters. The billboard is also shown among other signs adverstising actual Broadway musicals Wicked and Hairspray.

I removed it since the article is well-developed, but it's been brought up before, so unless I missed a discussion deciding otherwise, is this Easter Egg worth addressing in the article?
Jim Dunning | talk 20:08, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

To me it just seems a bit OR-ish. I think it's best left out of the article, in order to just prevent any unnecessary news artciles appearing in the tabloids - Weebiloobil (talk) 20:12, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

However, the comments from director Francis Lawrence about writer Akiva Goldsman at [7] might be worth including in the Production section.
Jim Dunning | talk 20:21, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Agreed, but try to keep the speculation out as much as possible - Weebiloobil (talk) 20:29, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Useless links!

I have made this argument before - please see discussion for Heralds of Galactus - but it is something I find extremely annoying as a casual reader. I truly wish to understand the purpose of including links on a page that redirect to subjects that have nothing to do with the original subject; e.g., "I Am Legend" with a link to "Human Extinction". Why would any intelligent person wanting to research HE detour through IAL to do so. Why shouldn’t anyone who clicks the link “more than 90% of the planet’s…” expect to find a page relating this phrase to IAL. As I’d pointed out in the aforementioned discussion, these links are arbitrary and random, serving no purpose in enhancing my understanding of the article I chose to read: I Am Legend. What criteria determines which words get linked and why? From a cursory glance, one could conceivably link every noun in this article – and every noun-derived word (infected = infection) – and have a collection of links no more valid to the article than those already there. I ask that if someone more daring than I agrees you please consider revising these links or some admin for Wikipedia create or clarify the rules for links to me, thanks.

P.S. Sorry for the tirade, I’ve just gotten tired of clicking links that lead to tangent reading. I almost gave up and missed what I was looking for in this article, the related movies/books to the 2007 release. Dphoenix1701 (talk)

Then don't click the links? What is wrong with you? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.49.216.50 (talk) 03:52, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

While the insinuated tone isn't necessary, I'll try to clarify what is at issue here. I personally found the excessively linking to be a problem because I was using the article as a starting point to find information related to the subject - as I said earlier, I almost missed it had I given up. Further research would indicate that my point is valid: WP:CONTEXT. The above post was in fact a question, in the event you missed that, and in response to yours: I apparently suffer from an acute condition whereby I seek to understand before I disparage. Since I seemed to have found the answer to my question on my own, I hope my efforts to further my knowledge will assist you in furthering yours.Dphoenix1701 (talk) 07:25, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Links do not need to have a two way mapping between topics. The references linked from IAL are useful and in some parts necessary. This is the whole point of a wiki, to aid in the linking of related topics. If you are really concerned, change your link colour to black in your browsers settings. Or become colourblind. 128.250.6.247 (talk)

Look this is getting asinine. I’m just someone who comes here during my downtime at work to read a few articles. The point of my posts is that the usage of links in a great deal of articles I’ve come across seem ‘misleading’ to the casual reader. I don’t know and don’t want to know all the thousands nuances to Wikipedia’s linking policies; simply put, as an outsider looking in, their inclusion a lot of the time appears without reason. I have no idea where you inferred “two-way mapping” from what I posted; the linked page not referencing back to the original article was not the issue. My question, and I repeat question was to the relevance of the links to the subject page the links are found on. If Wikipedia’s defining of relevant is more liberal than mine, that’s fine. If the inclusion of dates or years is acceptable, regardless of how they relate, so be it. If every geographical location can always be linked, okay. But, if Wikipedia says the links should be “relevant connections to the subject of another article that will help readers to understand the current article more fully” – note current – I don’t see how most of them qualify. That is what I have been trying to get clarified. No offense, but I come here because I thought this was a noble project. Rather than edit the page to my whim and start some crude back-and-forth I came to the discussion; but, I ask a question and the first reply reads like an insult, the second as a SA suggestion. I like the site, but if this is the way new contributors are received, you can have it.Dphoenix1701 (talk) 06:33, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

That sure is a lot of text, you must have a lot of downtime at work. 128.250.6.247 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 03:07, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

No, you're right. Useless, irrelevant linking is frowned upon here. I'll go through it now, see what I can get rid of. Steve ^{T • C} 08:25, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

After reviewing them, it seems that since the last time I read this article, someone had gone through it adding a bunch of useless wikilinks. Please don't take the tone of the previous poster as a reflection on the rest of us. Anything you want to point out is more than welcome. All the best, Steve ^{T • C} 08:36, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Confusing part in movie, Help?

When Robert Is going through the house(one were he finds spam) and right when he leaves, he notices a closed door. The he opens a door and finds plastic tent around a bed marked with the KV virus symbol. Then he goes into the other bedroom and finds two cribs. The mood changes to sad. What was in the bedroom that made him sad? Was it the lives of newborns gone without a chance to experence life? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kunz506 (talk • contribs) 03:18, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Just watched this movie last night. Mostly, I thought that Robert was missing his wife and especially his child. The next flashback after this point shows the helicopter accident that kills them, lending some credence to the theory. Schoop (talk) 13:14, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

I agree with the above comment as well. It seemed to suggest that Robert is missing the life and company of his wife and son. With the flashback scene backing this up MattyC3350 (talk) 06:04, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Daughter actually.121.216.25.108 (talk) 01:21, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Original Script

I just read the original script by Mark Protosevich which is in some respects much closer to the novel -- it is amazingly different from movie. I will put a link here and perhaps it should be part of the article. http://www.horrorlair.com/scripts/legend.txt --Jrm2007 (talk) 08:14, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

If you think that's like the book, you haven't read the book in a good long while. Seriously, though, if a link to this script is to be added to the article, we need to know how reliable a source Horror Lair is for this sort of thing. How can we know this is the real thing and not something that someone put together for fun? There have been loads of fake scripts doing the rounds for various other films.

Even if we can be sure it's the real deal, it only warrants being put in the external links unless we can find another reliable source discussing the script. GDallimore (Talk) 22:22, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Have just seen that it already is in the article - misused as a reference as it happens. More of a "further information" than a reference. The question remains, though: is it from a reliable source? GDallimore (Talk) 22:27, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Either way, it's unnecessary, so it's gone. But I wouldn't strenuously object to it as an external link, if others were happy with that. In fact, that'd be some kind of copyright violation, so no. Steve ^{T • C} 22:51, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Not a copyright violation per se, but potentially supporting a copyright violation if horrorlair don't have permission to distribute the script, which is possibly as bad legally. Basically, unless we know how horrorlair got this script, we can't link to it, for both my reliability issues and your copyright concerns. GDallimore (Talk) 09:32, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

You know, u are right about the script being pretty far from the novel. In a sense, the movie that was made is actually closer since the "sane" and "insane" vampires of the novel are sort of reflected in the movie whereas the script has none of this. As far as the script's reliability: it is quite long for a fake and if someone else wrote it, why attribute it to Protosevich? I do not know about copyright.--Jrm2007 (talk) 10:41, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Alternate version

How is the 2 disc edition have an alternate film version, is it just the ending or added delted scenes? What are the deleted scenes? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.6.37.146 (talk) 01:07, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

the ending is different but i'll let you watch it to see. there are a few added scenes as well. one where will smith explains that the trap he was caught in is his equipment and is in denile of the fact that the vampires used his trap to make there own trap to get him. there is also a scene of the boy swimming and saying the water is cold which is how will smith gets the idea to put his test subject on ice to lower her body temp. those are the only two i remember being added. there may be more though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.3.14.113 (talk) 01:42, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Shouldnt there be a section for the alternate version. It was horrible, I watched it in school and we had maybe 4 more minutes to go and my teacher turned of the video, and I want to know how the alternate movie ended. ;_; Dragon queen4ever (talk) 20:18, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

I might be wrong but there is also a scene where he discovers a butterfly tatto on the vampire/infected back when brought to the lab. MattyC3350 (talk) 05:59, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

I don't know how to make a new topic, so this is where I'm going to ask, because it seems most relevent here. Is there somwthing anyone can make of the recurring butterfly, where Marley (the daughter) notices it "look daddy, there's a butterfly" (I think that's what she said) and the door shatter cracks form in the shape of a butterfly, and Anna has a butterfly tatoo. (72.253.100.97 (talk) 07:21, 16 May 2008 (UTC))

Well I guess this is a spoiler, not that it hasn't been already... I just saw the movie and it is fresh in my mind, on the 2 disk, saw the unrated version then later looked at the scenes of the original and they all added up except for the part from after they lock themselves in the alpha female's safe room. So the final three scenes from each version are different. I remember the scenes discussed by "24.3.14.113", but can't say whether or not they are deleted from the original, since I didn't watch the movie again straight through and only the final scenes.

Now with the butterfly and here comes the real spoiler I think, in the original version the shape of a butterfly is seen by Neville in the cracked glass and then on Anna's neck as a smaller version of the alpha female's tattoo as he glances over at her. This is used as an awakening for him, as now he knows what he must do. In the unrated they have the rest of the higher brain function and human emotion subplot and after smashing the glass a few times, the alpha male paints the shape of a butterfly on the glass to let Neville know he wants his alpha female, who has a butterfly tattoo on her ankle. This is used to get Neville to put faith in the pack as he puts the situation in their hands.--< Nicht Nein! (talk) 09:01, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

NB that the plot summary on the main page appears to be inaccurate - it makes no sense for Neville to get caught in a trap he set himself, and the fact that the Alpha Male turns up makes it clear in my mind that the Alpha Male is the one who set it. Neville is spooked because he *didn't* move the dummy, but he doesn't want to admit that the infected are still sort of human. This is an analysis on my part, if also backed up by the alternate ending disection at movie-censorship.com ; with that said, I very much doubt that there is any evidence to support that part of the current plot synopsis on the main page. Contention (talk) 20:12, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism: It Sucks Badly

Several sections have been vandalised ending with "It sucks badly" --82.20.221.55 (talk) 18:28, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

FixedCoffeepusher (talk) 18:31, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Is That Vinegar?

What is Neville pouring both on his doorsteps and on the tarp for the snare? Is it vinegar? Why? Atsubill2 (talk) 07:36, 23 April 2008 (UTC)Atsubill2

I don't know what it is, but if you do some research on vampires, you would know. Yeah, so if you find out what liquid vampires can't stand, you have your answerDragon queen4ever (talk) 13:04, 5 May 2008 (UTC) They're not vampires in the movie though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.15.193.236 (talk) 03:47, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Two points here, one is that they are vamps in the book. Two, if a creature that cant stand the light, crave blood, and if you get bitten by one you become one, is not a vampire, what is it?Dragon queen4ever (talk) 18:51, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

I think till either the makers of the film state what the liquid was then everything that gets suggested is just guess work. With all the different compounds shown in his lab it could either be vinegar, or a liquid made through his study of the creatures. MattyC3350 (talk) 05:57, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

I don't remember what they said it was, but the liquid was used to kill his scent so that the vampires, or whatever they are won't smell him and know where he is. Darcphoenix2 (talk) 20:20, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

I think that it was alcohol, which would kill off any damaging bacteria and maybe eliminate his smell somewhat. (72.253.100.97 (talk) 07:18, 16 May 2008 (UTC))

Isn't there an old myth that says vampire can't cross running water? it could be dervied from that.202.74.163.90 (talk) 10:31, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Third or fourth film from the book?

Last night I changed the lede to say this is the fourth feature film from the book, citing IMDB as the source. The direct-to-DVD I Am Omega is listed at IMDB another adaptation. Jpcline004 reverted this. Any discussion? I think going direct to DVD doesn't disqualify something as a "feature film," and IMDB is a legitimate source for film-industry information. See the IMDB I Am Legend FAQ [8] and the I Am Omega entry [9]. Even a bad, low-budget adaptation is still an adaptation. And I Am Omega released earlier, making it the third and I Am Legend the fourth. Chester320 (talk) 00:09, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

See here for extended discussion on the subject, which resulted in the addition of a footnote explanation. I'm not sure at what stage the wording we agreed upon there was removed from the article. Steve ^{T • C} 07:46, 13 May 2008 (UTC)