Talk:Hutchinson River Parkway/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: David Fuchs (talk · contribs) 20:51, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

In progress. Should have comments by the start of next week. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs^(talk) 20:51, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

@David Fuchs: Thank you for taking this up. Much appreciated. We were coming up on a year of the article being in nomination! AmericanAir88^(talk) 03:48, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

@David Fuchs: A heads up, I am currently on a business trip until Monday. AmericanAir88^(talk) 20:41, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Overall it's pretty solid. I haven't had much experience with road articles but I compared it to FAs listed under the transport category. A few things:

Prose:

• Both designations are unsigned reference routes. Like the Bronx River Parkway, the reference route designation of the parkway in Westchester County violates the numbering scheme used by the NYSDOT.[3] The second digit of a reference route designation typically indicates its region. While other reference routes in the county carry a second digit of "8", as Westchester County is located in region 8, the "0" in 907W is indicative of regions 10 and 11, containing Long Island and New York City, respectively.[3]—this whole section of the lead feels like inside baseball that isn't important enough for the lead. Feels like it's route description-level stuff.

@David Fuchs: I disagree with this as this statement covers the entire route and now just a section. The lead is supposed to be an overview, just like this statement. It would be awkward for route description unless I put it before everything at the top of the section. What is your opinion? AmericanAir88^(talk) 23:29, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

The lead shouldn't be the place for novel information. As is, this content is only found in the lead which isn't acceptable under WP:LEAD. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs^(talk) 15:01, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

 Done AmericanAir88^(talk) 02:35, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

• However, as seen in a 1942 photo, showing the removal of the viaduct of the New York, Westchester and Boston Railway, Lincoln Avenue's southbound and northbound exits shared the current northbound ramp, which was a T-intersection without acceleration or deceleration lanes.[7] It's kind of weird to reference a photo we don't see, and also weird to me that we're throwing in historical info in what otherwise reads as a description of the current route.

@David Fuchs: I removed this area as it is not relevant and is just trivial information. AmericanAir88^(talk) 23:30, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

• Who is Robert Moses? People who aren't New York people probably need a word or two of introduction. Likewise, why is In Robert Caro's biography of Robert Moses, The Power Broker, he writes that Moses deliberately designed the parkways to have low bridges to prevent low-income families from traveling by bus to destinations outside of New York City.[26] at the end of the section in a widowed line rather than grouped with Moses' work on the parkway?

 Done AmericanAir88^(talk) 00:25, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

References:

• In and of itself, I'm not sure current ref 3 supports the assertions made highlighted above. It tells me how certain roads are denoted, not what the NYSDOT's numbering system actually is.

 Done AmericanAir88^(talk) 00:25, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

• I've never come across citations to public mapping services before. Has there been a discussion on a noticeboard about these serving as reliable sources?

@David Fuchs: It is notable as it is literally a map of the parkway. The map shows the various crossings and unique road interchanges. There is a whole template system for citing online maps. See Template:Cite map and Map Citations in articles AmericanAir88^(talk) 02:35, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

• Spot-check of statements attributed to refs 1, 8, 12, and 24 didn't turn up issues.

Images:

• Images look fine with appropriate licenses. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs^(talk) 03:41, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

@David Fuchs: All issues have been addressed. Where do we go from here? AmericanAir88^(talk) 04:07, 9 March 2019 (UTC)