Talk:History of Valencia

Latest comment: 4 years ago by Carlstak in topic Via Augustus

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Please help me with...Resolving conflicting information.

Here is the information on the page,

After the Christian victory and the expulsion of the Muslim population the city was divided between those who had participated in the conquest, according to the testimony in the Llibre del Repartiment (Book of Distribution). James I granted the city new charters of law, the Furs of Valencia, which later were extended to the whole kingdom of Valencia. Thenceforth the city entered a new historical stage in which a new society and a new language developed, forming the basis of the character of the Valencian people as they are known today.

On 9 October, King James, followed by his retinue and army, took possession of the city. The principal mosque was purified and the Mass was celebrated. James incorporated city and territory into the newly formed Kingdom of Valencia (continuum of the previous state), one of the kingdoms forming the Crown of Aragon, and permitted all people that lived in the city, Jews, Muslims and Christians, to stay there and live as citizens of the kingdom.

According to historical data on the capitulation of the city, the kingdom of Valencia had a population of 120,000 Muslims, 65,000 Christians and 2,000 Jews, who by the terms of the capitulation and its covenants were mostly allowed to remain on their land. According to the Arab historian Hussein Mones of the University of Cairo, these were the words King Zayyan spoke to James I when he surrendered the keys to the city:

In the city of Valencia live Muslims, the nobles of my people, along with Christians and Jews. I hope you continue to govern in the same harmony, all working and living together in this noble land. Here, during my reign, Easter processions went out and Christians professed their religion freely, as our Quran recognises Christ and the Virgin. I hope you bestow the same treatment to the Muslims of Valencia.

Here is what I don't understand. It seems to me unlikely that the Muslims were forced to leave Valencia since King Jaime I is later quoted as encouraging working and living in harmony. I suspect that either some Muslims who specifically were involved in resisting the Christian conquest might have been forced to flee or some Muslims chose to flee rather than remain in territory under Christian control.

AkilinaL (talk) 17:34, 4 November 2019 (UTC)AkilinaLReply

Via Augustus

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As everyone is in agreement that Valentia was founded in 138 BCE, please explain to me how its location could have been chosen because it was along the Via Augustus, a road which would not exist for at least another 130 years?

Valentia was a typical Roman city in its conception, as it was located in a strategic location near the sea on a river island crossed by the Via Augusta, the imperial road that connected the province to Rome, the capital of the empire.[5]

The road's name is Via Augusta, not Via Augustus. Parts of the Via Augusta were built using what was left of roads that had existed since the time of the Roman Republic, and my understanding is that a Roman road existed in Valentia before Augustus ordered construction of the Via Augusta. In any case, the language of the text as it stood was not clear, so I've edited it for clarity. Carlstak (talk) 00:24, 10 November 2019 (UTC)~~Reply
Thanks. AkilinaL (talk) 02:06, 15 November 2019 (UTC)Reply
My pleasure. Thanks for pointing this out. Carlstak (talk) 12:48, 15 November 2019 (UTC)Reply