Talk:Gun laws in Pennsylvania

Latest comment: 6 years ago by The Mighty Glen in topic Bloated article

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I'm going to remove the navbox with collapsible groups from the body of the article, except for the overview section, which I'll leave as the new body. The article should be formatted as paragraphs of running prose, rather than as a navbox with collapsible groups. Besides not conforming to guidelines for how a Wikipedia article should be laid out, the navbox is difficult to update. Also, most of it consists of quotes, instead of original prose written by editors. But it does contain a number of links that could be useful for updating the article, so I'm copying it to the talk page, below. Mudwater (Talk) 02:12, 3 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

References

  1. ^ "Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives – State Laws and Published Ordinances – Firearms" (PDF). Retrieved November 23, 2011.
  2. ^ a b c d e "Legal Community Against Violence – Pennsylvania Laws, Policies, and Statistics". Lcav.org. 2011-12-22. Retrieved 2012-05-22.
  3. ^ a b c d e NRA-ILA – Synopsis of Pennsylvania Laws[dead link]
  4. ^ a b "Pennsylvania Firearm/Gun Law". Pafoa.org. 2007-10-02. Retrieved 2012-07-09.
  5. ^ "LCAV. Registration of Firearms. In Regulating Guns in America: An Evaluation and Comparative Analysis of Federal, State, and Selected Local Gun Laws (2008). Retrieved July 8, 2011" (PDF). Retrieved 2012-05-22.
  6. ^ a b "Pennsylvania Firearm Owners Association – Open Carry". Pafoa.org. 2007-10-02. Retrieved 2012-05-22.
  7. ^ a b "Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives – State Laws and Published Ordinances – Firearms, p.392" (PDF). Retrieved 2012-05-22.
  8. ^ info@attorneygeneral.gov. "Pennsylvania Attorney General, Firearm Reciprocity Agreements". Attorneygeneral.gov. Retrieved 2012-05-22.

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@Sir Joseph: The carry permit section is usually for concealed carry permits, in order to remain consistent with all other states/territories charts. A carry permit is required to carry concealed in PA. Open carry is addressed in its own dedicated section, which is where the City of the First Class requirement applies (Philadelphia is the only city to fall under that [population over 1 million]). Please self-revert in order to remain consistent with all other states/territories articles. Thanks.Terrorist96 (talk) 03:51, 17 January 2018 (UTC)Reply

Right now it says you need a carry permit to carry a handgun and that is incorrect. If you open carry, you don't need one. Perhaps carry permit issued or something along those lines, but right now the article is factually incorrect. Sir Joseph (talk) 03:57, 18 January 2018 (UTC)Reply
I've updated it further to state "concealed carry permit required?" to hopefully clarify that that row deals with concealed carry and the next row deals with open carry, which clearly says permitless open carry is allowed outside of Philly.Terrorist96 (talk) 01:21, 19 January 2018 (UTC)Reply

Sarah Arnold Peer Review

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I thought this was a really interesting page and was structured very well. I think the introduction to the page could have a little more to make the page more proportionate and structurally appealing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:547:1000:F40:45B4:E05E:E91B:2AC8 (talk) 18:30, 11 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

Bloated article

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There's so much unrelated rubbish in this article - you compare it to any of the other gun laws nested at the bottom, and they don't look like this. Why is there a section about gun violence or "The Power of Gun Lobbying"? Why are there large sections about laws that aren't on the books? This article is in need of a major rewrite. 24.176.73.210 (talk) 01:55, 2 May 2018 (UTC)Reply

Agreed. I've shoveled out some of the worst of the unsourced POV commentary, and changed some section headings from "gun control" to "gun legislation", because the goal of some of the laws is not to control, but to protect freedom of ownership and transport etc. There still appears to be a lot of copypasted text lazily thrown in, and the section order needs a cleanup. The Mighty Glen (talk) 09:17, 2 May 2018 (UTC)Reply