Talk:Ghotis

Vandalizing the page wont change history or society

It has come to my notice that over the past two weeks, a shocking number of malicious attempts to vandalize the page has been repealed by responsible wikipedians. Please, if you see this.

The social competition among Ghoti and Bengal communities in Bengal and outside it, over the past 50 years is a known fact among bengalis. But since the late 1980-s, when the pressure on land and labour markets started to ease with the start of the liberalization of the Indian economy, this competition has decreased to the point of being a friendly rivalry. The difference between both communities is practically non-existent now and has devolved down inane jokes about who cooks the best fish and whose fashion sense.

My parents, a Ghoti man, tracing his roots to Purba Medinipur and a Bangal woman with family originally from Faridpur, near Dhaka, got married in 1990. I grew up hearing them joke about each other's curious social beliefs. Most kids today, barely know their heritage in these terms. Let them know the real history and not blind hate.

It is too bad some folks have decided to inject sectarian bias into a source of information. One writer wrote: "During both events, as well as before and after them, millions of Hindu Bangals fled from East Pakistan and Bangladesh due to religious persecution and political repression by the majority Muslim populace". First of all, the number is a fantasy, the TOTAL number of Muslims and Hindus who moved from India to Pakistan and vice-versa, was about14-17 million. Secondly, to make the above statement implies Muslims oppressed Hindus while (by omission) Hindus did not oppress Muslims. The statement is gratuitous and should have been left out or, clarifying that people of BOTH faiths were oppressed and emigrated in both directions across the border. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:601:9900:57E0:84DE:FB2A:F8B9:4016 (talk) 23:47, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Not Derogatory

As with Bangals, Ragib states in the history that the term Ghoti is derogatory. In my direct experience, it is not. My wife is a Ghoti and routinely refers to herself and her family with that term. In almost every meeting between Bengali Hindus that I have witnessed, there is always a brief discussion regarding whether the other person is a Ghoti or a Bangal and there is never any hint that the term is derogatory

move

The article needs to be moved to "Ghoti" but that is already being used by the word referring to English linguistics. Move to Ghoti (ethnic) and disambiguation is necessary. Any idea on this? -- Urnonav 14:21, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Pronunciation

According to George Bernard Shaw, Ghoti can be pronounced fish!?!?!?

Tabletop 12:29, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

See the page for Ghoti... LacsiraxAriscal (talk) 20:44, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Ghoti surnames

Surnames are related to castes and not to any geographical regions. This surname section contains basically wrong information. It should be repealed. Arnab Dutta 08:15, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Arnab is correct. Surnames depend on castes as opposed to regions. However, there may be surnames that occur only among Ghotis or Bangals, but they have nothing to do with region. Therefore this section should be removed. BengaliHindu (talk) 11:20, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Yes,and there is a lot of inconsistencies , surname sen is way more common in bangals than ghotis. Also Poriya, Hati or Mallick are distinctly Ghoti surnames.

Another is Mitra tends to be commoner in Ghotis while Moitro and Lahiri are most probably bangals.

Kar is predominantly Bangal but ghotis also exist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.96.164.212 (talk) 18:40, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Ghoti is also in Pakistan

Ghoti is also the name of a small town in Sindh, Pakistan, close to the border. It is about half-way between Ahmedabad in India and Hyderabad in Pakistan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:601:9900:57E0:84DE:FB2A:F8B9:4016 (talk) 23:55, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

"Ghoti" can actually refer to several things, which are listed at Ghoti (disambiguation). Granted, none of them are a town in Pakistan. Do you have any sources that describe this town? -- Fyrael (talk) 06:04, 27 May 2020 (UTC)