Talk:Gatton murders

What is meant by "their legs crossed over their bodies"

What is meant by After their deaths, their corpses were re-arranged so their legs crossed over their bodies with the feet pointing west. It doesn't make sense, and needs to be rewritten.--Dmol (talk) 00:22, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

From reading about this case, the three bodies were laid out predominantly on their backs, `ith their feet facing west. Their heads however, were slightly turned so they were sideways into the ground (where they'd been struck by a tree branch) and the lower half of the body was also slightly turned so their legs were kind of one laying over the top of the other. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.154.73.31 (talk) 05:35, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Murphy Relatives - Gatton Murder

I am interested in learning about any living relatives from Daniel Murphy.

My grandfather, Jeremiah M. was Daniels brother. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dbsnorth (talk • contribs) 18:35, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Suggestion

The following was an edit originally made to the article by User:Neilbrad:

Based on the revelations in the book Oxley-Gatton Murders: Exposing the Conspiracy by Neil Raymond Bradford and published by BookPal Australia in 2015, this account of the Gatton murders needs to be re-written, using the references and links provided in the Endnotes.

I note the username has some similarity to the author of the book. Kerry (talk) 12:46, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

M'Neill and McNeill

The practice in the past was to write these kinds of names as M'Neill but today we write them as McNeill. It's not a change in name, just a change in typographic practice. I think for the modern reader it makes more sense to use McNeill just as an article about the Middle Ages would not use the wide range of variant spellings that were acceptable at that time. See [1]. Kerry (talk) 23:05, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Agreed. The Drover's Wife (talk) 06:12, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Not getting any better

There has been a tag on this article for 5 years asking for more citations. I think it's time to take an axe to this article and pare it back to the material for which we do have sources. As written, the article certainly implies to the reader that Thomas Day/Farmer did it. At two points of the article, we are told that the police and governments covered up his death in Sydney, yet the article contains a citation to an article in the Sydney Morning Herald which was published a few days after his suicide, and reveals that his suicide note discusses the Gatton murders and appears to name several people of interest (whose names not included in the newspaper report) and suggests that the police may have had a motive to keep things quiet. I found the same news story in other newspapers including the Brisbane Telegraph, so I am not seeing a coverup in relation to his deaht. What is covered up here in the Wikipedia article is any information about this suicide note; why, didn't it fit the theory that is being pushed here onto the reader? Let's stick to the known facts and have no more WP:OR. Kerry (talk) 04:38, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

Newspaper articles

1. "The Gatton Murders. A man under arrest. Charged with complicity". The Age. 9 January 1899. p. 5. Retrieved 16 September 2018.
2. "The Gatton Murders. Illness of Mrs. M'Neill". The Age. 9 March 1899. p. 5. Retrieved 16 September 2018.
3. "The Gatton Murders. Magisterial inquiry. Several witnesses examined. Burgess in the witness box. A faulty memory". The Age. 25 January 1899. p. 6. Retrieved 16 September 2018.
4. "The Gatton Murders. A woman's statement. An extraordinary story". The Age. 19 January 1899. p. 6. Retrieved 16 September 2018.
5. "The Gatton Murders". The Age. 9 February 1899. p. 5. Retrieved 16 September 2018.
6. "The Gatton Murders". The Age. 30 September 1899. p. 10. Retrieved 16 September 2018.
7. "The Gatton Murders". The Age. 29 September 1899. p. 6. Retrieved 16 September 2018.
8. https://www.newspapers.com/clip/23775058/the_age/
9. https://www.newspapers.com/clip/23775080/the_age/
10. https://www.newspapers.com/clip/23775096/the_age/
11. https://www.newspapers.com/clip/23775107/the_age/
12. https://www.newspapers.com/clip/23775127/the_age/
13. https://www.newspapers.com/clip/23775139/the_age/
14. https://www.newspapers.com/clip/23775160/the_age/
15. https://www.newspapers.com/clip/23775169/the_age/
16. https://www.newspapers.com/clip/23775173/kansas_city_journal/
17. https://www.newspapers.com/clip/23775180/the_westminster_budget/
18. https://www.newspapers.com/clip/23775184/the_age/
19. https://www.newspapers.com/clip/23775192/the_sydney_morning_herald/
20. https://www.newspapers.com/clip/23775200/the_age/
21. https://www.newspapers.com/clip/23775206/the_age/
22. https://www.newspapers.com/clip/23775221/the_age/
23. https://www.newspapers.com/clip/23775233/the_age/
24. https://www.newspapers.com/clip/23775239/the_sydney_morning_herald/
25. https://www.newspapers.com/clip/23775262/the_sydney_morning_herald/
26. https://www.newspapers.com/clip/23775275/the_age/
27. https://www.newspapers.com/clip/23775293/the_age/
28. https://www.newspapers.com/clip/23775298/the_age/
29. https://www.newspapers.com/clip/23775311/the_sydney_morning_herald/
30. https://www.newspapers.com/clip/23775317/the_age/

Old newspaper articles. Melonkelon (talk) 06:10, 16 September 2018 (UTC)