Talk:Finance (game)

Boards and property list

I just removed an editor's addition of the complete text of all of the cards for this game. After looking at the article, I'm also inclined to remove the entire table listing the properties and prices, along with the boards themselves. The boards could be kept if they were turned into pictures and brought down to thumbnail size, but not at the page filling size they're at now. Our goal in articles is an encyclopedic overview, not a piece by piece description of the game. Any one else have thoughts on the matter? Qwyrxian (talk) 05:50, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

I just stumbled across this page and have similar concerns. There are only two sources: a self-published website which has reproduced many of the (copyrighted) game elements,[1] and a posting to a game forum.[2] I'm not sure of the current copyright status of the game elements, but reproducing them verbatim could be a copyvio. Even if they are not, as Qwyrxian notes we are not here to list every detail of game play but rather a summary. I agree that some of the details drawn from the primary sources should be trimmed. If this is a significant game then there should be some reliable secondary sources which talk about it, especially since it's purportedly the forerunner to one of the most popular boardgames in history. The article should be based on secondary sources, not the game's instruction manual, etc.   Will Beback  talk  20:28, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

I've taken the whole section out now. Unfortunately, looking for more secondary references for this will be challenging, as any simple search will likely turn up mainly false positives. I'll add to my (very) long term list of projects). Qwyrxian (talk) 12:32, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Pre-1976 copyright required filing with the Copyright Office then renewing them every 10 years. The general monopoly game is the public domain since no one copyrighted it nor patented it. Yes, the text, symbols and layout can be copyrighted and the name, logos and symbols may be trademarked. So long as Parker Brothers renewed Finance's copyrights after 1976 then yes the are still under copyright. I added the Monopoly format tables as I felt that would be less of a copyright violation then an image. The changes section is weak as I use images as sources, but it is there are editors are stating that Finance did not have Community Chest (dispite editing with the two version's monopoly table show in the article with one having the CC spaces) and that is just wrong as those cards were dropped in the later Parker Brother versions. Hopefully, my secondary source hold up. Spshu (talk) 15:08, 22 February 2012 (UTC)