Talk:Femi Fani-Kayode/Archive 1

Archive 1

Length

This article is (ridiculously) huge. I'm going to do some editing on this. At first glance it looks like at least 25% of it can go.    SIS  22:16, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

U ARE BEING MOST UNAIR AND RIDICULOUS BY DOING SO.THE HISTORICAL VALUE OF THE MATERIAL IS IMMENSE.IF IT WERE A WESTERNER U WOULD NOT DO SO.IT IS BCOS IT IS AN AFRICAN AND U CANT STAND IT.U ARE A RACIST. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.138.1.59 (talk) 22:38, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm not a racist, I'm an editor. Mind your words and don't delete my remarks here. That's vandalism by WP standards. About the "immense historical value" you're mentioning, show some sources that prove it and I'll believe it. I only saw an article that was bloated with paragraphs like

After he was healed by what he called a miracle, he consequently he gave his life to Jesus Christ, stopped drinking, stopped smoking, stopped reveling and stopped going to parties. He became a committed and conservative "born again" christian and often told people that he is "nothing but a living manifestation and evidence of God's immeasurable grace and mercy".

If you wonder why I did what I did, please read WP:NPOV and WP:V before you attack me (or delete my posts here) again.    SIS  00:01, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for cutting this one down -- I was headed that direction with it myself. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 08:17, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Committee recommendations on repayment, etc.

Please use this space to discuss proposed changes regarding the section on the committee's investigation and recommendations regarding repayment, etc. Please note that the personal knowledge one might have of a situation will not be relevant in the process of editing wikipedia -- we need to report what reliable sources say. Seipiri, I gather you believe the Senate committee did not recommend that F-K repay the money -- but since the source for this statement is unequivocal on that point (see here) it is difficult to contemplate a change to the sentence in question.

In any event, discussion here to reach consensus about proposed changes is necessary; continued changes without consensus amounts to edit warring and can lead to your account being blocked. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 18:33, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Attention: Nomoskedasticity

Political career Need to be updated Fani-Kayode was arrested in July 2008 in connection with alleged misappropriation of a N19.5 billion "Aviation Intervention Fund."[1][2]

New update Fani-Kayode was arrested in July 2008 alongside with another former Minister of Aviation, Dr. Babalola Borishade, and a former Managing Director of the Nigeria Airspace Management Agency, Mr. Roland Iyayi, in connection with alleged misappropriation of a N19.5 billion "Aviation Intervention Fund and all were initially charged same month. However, charges against Fani-Kayode on the 19.5 billion were withdrawn for lack of evidence in September 2008 by the EFCC. The Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC) filed a new charge against the remaining two men (Borishade and Iyayi). This also explains why the senate committee on the Aviation Intervention Fund was also clear him in February 2009.

Wrong info: In February 2009 the Senate Committee on Aviation, investigating the allegations of misappropriation, recommended that Fani-Kayode be banned from holding public office for five years but subsequently withdrew that recommendation on the grounds that the issues were still being assessed by the courts.[8][9]

Correct info Issues being accessed by the courts had nothing to do with FK on the 19.5 billion as charges files against him by EFCC have been dropped.

References

http://www.punchng.com/Articl.aspx?theartic=Art200809142148154

http://h4.punchng.com/Articl.aspx?theartic=Art2008100923284029

http://triquerta.com/articles/revealed!%20why%20fani-kayode%20is%20being%20persecuted.html?id=131

Attention: Nomoskedasticity —Preceding unsigned comment added by Seiperi (talk • contribs) 17:12, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

I utterly disagree with you on the issue of Fani-Kayode. Femi Fani-Kayode was not in any way indicated by the Committee. The others were told to refund the sum of N5.4 Billion but he was not.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/content/view/28513/41/ Written by Emmanuel Aziken & Inalegwu Shaibu Tuesday, 10 February 2009

http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/news/article02//indexn3_html?pdate=110209&ptitle=Senate%20panel%20queries%20aviation%20sector%20spending&cpdate=110209 Senate panel queries aviation sector spending Wants Fani-Kayode barred from public office From Alifa Daniel and Lemmy Ughegbe, Abuja Wednesday, February 11, 2009

http://www.vanguardngr.com/content/view/28594/43/ Senate back-pedals on Fani-Kayode, others Written by Emmanuel Aziken and Inalegwu Shaibu Wednesday, 11 February 2009

Paragraph 5 "While noting the indictment of Borishade and Iyayi by the committee and the recommendation that they should refund the N5billion which it affirmed was the inflation of the safe tower project, the Senate noted that the issue was already in court."

Please note that only one Former Minister was told to refund money and not two.

This correction is vital.

The citation or reference that he was asked to refund N5.4 Billion should be removed from his page.

http://leadershipnigeria.com/news/149/ARTICLE/6298/2009-02-01.html Fani Kayode, Others To Refund N4.5bn Andrew Oota, Abuja February 1st, 2009

It was a pre-conceived because the report of the committee was made public to the senate on the 10th of February and therefore the reference is irrelevant.

"IF YOU STILL HAVE DOUBT ABOUT THE REFUND, YOU MAY CONTACT THE MEDIA HOUSES FOR FURTHER INFO. THE TRUTH IS IMPORTANT TO ME"

Fani-Kayode was only banned from holding public office which was also rejected by the senate. Please note that a member of the Senate Committee on the missappriation of the Aviation Fund said that the banning was unrelated to the work of the Committee.

http://www.leadershipnigeria.com/news/153/ARTICLE/7140/2009-02-20.html Fani-Kayode Deserves A Breather Capt Daniel Omale February 20th, 2009

Daniel Omale in his article said "Now, the Senate Committee on Aviation has come out with its findings and recommendations on the N19.5 billion aviation intervention fund. Although Fani-Kayode has no case in the misappropriation, he has been recommended for a ban from holding public office for the next five years because of issues unrelated to the N19.5 billion."

http://www.tribune.com.ng/01072008/politics.html

This article is important. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Seiperi (talk • contribs) 17:49, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Seipiri: Thank you for coming to this discussion page -- it is an important step and much appreciated. I have read all of the links you have provided here. I see that they do not state that Fani-Kayode was instructed to return the money. BUT: we still have to contend with the article that says he *was* instructed to return the money: [1]. There is a principle to consider here: absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. In other words, given that the one article asserts he *was* instructed to return the money, your case would be assisted by a source that tells us this article was incorrect. It isn't sufficient to provide a series of articles in which the claim is simply absent; what would be required is a source that asserts the claim was *incorrect*. An obvious possibility here would be a *correction* issued by the "leadershipnigeria.com" site: if they have retracted the claim, please do provide evidence of this.

Again, I do appreciate that you have contributed to the discussion page, and if you can show that the claim is contradicted by another source then it can be removed. As things stand, that claim is accompanied by a reliable source. cheers, Nomoskedasticity (talk) 22:00, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Attention: Nomoskedasticity The Leadership Story on Femi Fani-Kayode that he was told to refund N5.4billion story has been corrected by Leadership Nigeria. Unfortunately, the story is not on their website but hard copy for local consumption. Another media house referenced this on their website. The details shown below.

Title: Fani-Kayode Denies Media Report http://triquerta.com/articles/archives.html?id=200 http://localhost/triquerta/docs/ffk-leadership.pdf?id=15

I believe this should clear the issue on the refund. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Seiperi (talk • contribs) 19:24, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but neither of those links provides anything that contradicts the published story. Even if they did, it's hard to accept a different version from an unknown website when (in addition to the Leadership Nigeria story, where the link no longer works) there are still three stories asserting that this gentleman has been indicted for money laundering. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 20:55, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Added: I now see a link to the article you have in mind: http://triquerta.com/docs/ffk-leadership.pdf?id=15. This is not a newspaper correction -- it is simply a story about Fani-Kayode's denial. The newspaper has not retracted the story, it has merely given space to F-K to make his assertion. I will update the article here. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 20:59, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Attention: Nomoskedasticity

Please note Leadership Nigeria has retracted the story on the re-payment concerning the Aviation Funds. So I urge you to completely remove the story and the references from Fani-kayode's wiki's page.

Sorry leadershipnigeria.com website is still down

http://triquerta.com/articles/archives.html?id=200

http://triquerta.com/docs/aviation-report.pdf?id=18

Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Seiperi (talk • contribs) 18:36, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Okay, that's a proper retraction. I'll remove it. cheers, Nomoskedasticity (talk) 21:16, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Sources required

I upload a new image of Femi Fani-kayode to overwrite the old (upper left of the screen) but the old one is still there even though upload was successful. Please you help see to it. The source is from the website of http://femifanikayode.org/gallery/photo-shoot-abuja-home.html. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tebsala (talk • contribs) 11:06, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Attention: Nomoskedasticity

I upload a new image of Femi Fani-kayode to overwrite the old (upper left of the screen) but the old one is still there even though upload was successful. Please you help see to it. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tebsala (talk • contribs) 11:40, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

This article needs references; it will not be allowed to remain in its current state. Please note that a global reference to an autobiography will not be sufficient (please see WP:SELFPUB). Each significant claim here will need a reference to a reliable source. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 18:07, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Please note in particular the need to use in-text references for information added to articles. A list of references at the end is not sufficient. Any additions to Femi Fani Kayode that do not involve the use of in-text references to specific reliable sources will be reverted. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 17:53, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Attention: Nomoskedasticity

Femi Fani-Kayode is also a Poet who has written many poems such as A Beautiful World,The Eagle, The Lion ; The Warrior And The King,A Prayer For The Year,For My Children,As The Lord Lives,Daughter Of Zion,To My Queen, The One I Love,Truth Is Constant,Reach For The Stars,The Power Of Hope,Remembering Macdreamie,A Word To My Father The Warrior,Why Do You Love God?,If I Should Die. His latest poems are the The Warrior and If I Should die.

References: http://femifanikayode.org/poems.html http://www.triquerta.com/articles/fanikayode-poem-the%20warrior.html?id=120 http://www.triquerta.com/articles/fanikayode-poem-if%20I%20should%20die.html?id=123 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Seiperi (talk • contribs) 18:19, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Update on charges

Seipiri, it would help if you could put your comments at the bottom of the page, don't intersperse them above, it's hard to follow. I have edited your update to reflect what is in the sources provided. The material from triquerta.com cannot be included because that website is not a proper WP:RS. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 14:57, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Attention Nomoskedasticity,

The facts I posted are undisputed facts about by Femi Fani-Kayode which are true and verified by the stated newspapers and book. I will re-state them here for you so that you can take time out to verify for yourself. The book "Nigerian Political Parties: Power in an Emergent African Nation" by Richard L. Sklar" is an authority on Nigerian Politics. You can verify from the book page 269 that Chief Remilekun Fani-Kayode, the father of Chief Femi Fani-kayode moved the motion for my Country Nigeria independence in 1958. The family of Fani-Kayode is well known in Nigeria as a political and legal family most of whom graduated from Cambridge. I am more interested in you guys (Wikipedia) having true historic facts about the man Femi Fani-Kayode. He his infact a third generation from Cambridge. You might need to visit his website to see and confirm certain things for yourself (http://www.femifanikayode.org). I am not saying that his website should be taken as a reference please don't get me wrong.

I would be very grateful if this is taken seriously.

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These are my write-ups and places where references should be inserted with the references.

Femi Fani- Kayode comes from one of the most distinguished and prominent legal and political families in Nigeria (pointblanknews.com interview). His great- grandfather Rev. Emmanuel Adedapo Kayode was one of the earliest Nigerians to be educated and he obtained a Master of Arts degree at Durham University after which he became an Anglican Priest. He later introduced christianity to Ile-Ife his home town and other parts of south- western Nigeria (ref.pointblanknews.com). His grandfather Justice Victor Adedapo Kayode studied law at Cambridge University and later became a lawyer and a judge(ref. pointblanknews.com). His father Chief Remilekun Fani-Kayode also studied law at Cambridge and later went on to become one of Nigeria's leading and most prominent lawyers in his day and he was also a towering political figure in Nigeria in the 1950's and 1960's (ref. pointblanknews.com). He was elected Deputy Premier of the Western Region of Nigeria from 1963 till 1966(Pointblanknews.com interview). Chief Remilekun Fani-Kayode was indeed the one that successfully moved the motion for Nigeria's independence in 1958 in the Nigerian Parliament. (Pointblanknews.com interview ) and ("Nigerian Political Parties: Power in an Emergent African Nation" by Richard L. Sklar- pg. 269-google book results).

References POINT BLANK NEWS: http://www.pointblanknews.com/os2240.html

THE NATION: http://thenationonlineng.net/web2/articles/22011/1/Obasanjo-Atiku-and-I-by-Fani-Kayode/Page1.html

GOOGLE BOOKS: http://books.google.com.ng/books?id=Oi0aVR4YkmUC&dq=Nigerian+Political+Parties:+Power+in+an+Emergent+African+Nation&printsec=frontcover&source=bn&hl=en&ei=2CoBS4ahJtiMjAeMqeWZCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CBgQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=&f=false page 269 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tebsala (talk • contribs) 18:04, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Hello Tebsala, and thanks for coming to this discussion page. In my view, the long passages on family background are simply excessive; WP:TOPIC tells us to stay focused on the subject. In other respects the article in which F-K is interviewed is not sufficient on a strict reading of WP:RS to establish certain facts: for instance, the fact that F-K says about himself that he is a distinguished poet doesn't mean that he really is -- we would need someone else to say that about him in order for this to be established. What I think that article/interview is usable for is to substantiate F-K's own views on why he has been charged with corruption. But in general it wouldn't be sufficient to use someone's own claims in an interview to establish them as fact. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 18:14, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Attention Nomoskedasticity,

What about the Richard L. Sklar's book which confirmed his father's role in the motion for Nigeria's independence. What about Dan Omale's article in which he as a member of the Senate Aviation Probe Commitee and the consultant to that commitee said that FFK was being witchunted and persecuted by the govt and efcc. Again FFK did not say that he was a distinguished poet. It was the journalist that interviewed him that said so and asked him what motivated him. His poetry columns in Thisday newspaper(the leading paper in Nigeria under the title Random Musings) and in City People are regularly seen, read and appreciated by millions of Nigerians. On the issue of corruption it is common knowledge and a matter of public notoriety and some outrage that he, El Rufai and Ribadu are being harassed and persecuted for political reasons. The fact that FFK himself has said so himself and this has been published is surely relevant to his wiki page. It really is so imp to really understand what is going on here clearly. All the Obasanjo boys are being targetted but FFK refused to run like the others. Everyone in Nigeria is commending him for this and he is turning into something of a hero. I just felt that the truth should be reflected especially when people are facing tyranny. That interview he gave is a wealth of information and it was syndicated and used in 2 major Nigerian newspapers ( The Nation and The Leadership) quite apart from Pointblanknews.com which is the second largest Nigerian news website. No one has refuted or challenged these claims he made and I just thought they may be relevant in trying to assist in building up the wiki page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.219.213.14 (talk) 12:43, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Attention Nomoskedasticity,

Thanks for this interesting discussion which I am enjoying. I hope that we can make some progress here and that some consensus can be reached on this matter. Again what just occured to me is that if the family background info is excessive why not just trim it down rather than cut everything out? It is a very big deal to Nigerians that someone can be a third generation Cambridge man and it is a well known and recognised fact that the Fani-Kayode's are a political and legal family of many years standing. Again the moving of Nigeria's motion for independence by ffk's father as corroborated by Sklar's book is an amazing and relevant issue. I just want to help that is all and I think that such matters are relevant to the subject. Surely Femi Fani-Kayode's background is relevant here and indeed in any balanced write up about him. I just dont think you can divorce him and separate him from that background and cut it all out in the name of concentrating on the subject. I think that background is very much part of the subject and it would enrich your readers enormously and give them a clearer and better insight about the man they are reading about. What do you think?

http://thenationonlineng.net/web2/articles/21909/1/Soyinka-Umar-Tinubu-gave-Obasanjo-sleepless-nights/Page1.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tebsala (talk • contribs) 12:46, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't see this earlier, because you didn't sign your post and it was then signed by a bot (some people don't have bot actions appear in their watchlist).

I think it would be okay to have a shorter version of what you had added, as long as it is supported by the right kind of source in the right way. The Sklar book would be useful for this. As for the interview: I agree that it is useful for supporting inclusion of F-K's own perspective on being persecuted. But I think it has limited use for other sorts of factual claims about other people. Anyway, please go ahead and try a shorter version of what you had added.

Please also note the point about using opinion articles -- they can't be used to support statements of fact, only to convey the viewpoint of their authors (see WP:RS on opinion pieces).

Finally, if you look below the "edit summary" box, you'll see a place to click where you can "Sign your posts on talk pages (four squiggles) -- that's the standard practice here on talk pages. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 21:51, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Attn: Nomoskedasticity

Thanks for your consideration on this matter. I believe this will strengthen the page enormously. I will trim it down a little and repost it and I will use Sklar's book as the reference. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tebsala (talk • contribs) 11:18, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Acts of Vandalism

Attn: Nomoskedasticity

The user : Eighteenofour should be band or the user account suspended as the account is only used for vandalism purposes only. This should be treated with all seriousness and attention. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tebsala (talk • contribs) 03:37, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Nigeria was never an aristocracy and so never had aristocrats -- User:Zoso Jade

Attention: User:Zoso Jade Sorry but you are wrong. Nigeria certainly does have aristocrats in it even though it is a republic because it has various royal familes, traditional rulers, kings, emirs and various Royal courts of chiefs and traditional title holders in the various regions throughout the country. Once somebody has been conferred with a chieftaincy title from any of the kings or if he or she comes from any of the royal families in Nigeria then that person is an aristocrat. Fani-Kayode is a member of the ruling class, a titled Chief from the Royal court of the Ooni ( King) of Ife and a blue-blooded member of the royal family of Ife where he and his family hail from. He is a member of the royal family and a member of the royal court at ife which is one of the most reverred courts in Nigeria. That makes him an aristocrat. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tebsala (talk • contribs) 11:34, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

As with most issues of this sort, the difference in views can be resolved by providing a source meeting WP:RS. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 11:37, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

I hope the links below helps to clarify my point on the above topic.

Kingdoms of Nigeria http://www.kingdomsofnigeria.com/

List of Nigerian traditional rulers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nigerian_traditional_rulers —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tebsala (talk • contribs) 16:58, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

The first one doesn't meet WP:RS and doesn't even mention F F-K. As for the second, you can't use wikipedia articles as sources for other articles. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 21:21, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

It is important to note that in the last sentence of the first paragraph it is stated that He is an Ile-Ife chieftain of Yoruba descent. Please note the word "chieftain". What do you think that means. It simply means a traditional ruler in Nigeria in his case the OOni of Ife Oba (meaning King) Okunade Sijuade (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nigerian_traditional_rulers) has bestowed some traditional title/rights on him. At the mention of his name the prefix Chief is always added as a sign of respect and in line with the title. You may google the full name Chief Femi Fani-Kayode or click on any of the references on his wiki page and you'll find the prefix Chief is always used or there. This is part of our african tradition and guys who are ignorant must learn and respect it. I hope this clears the air. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tebsala (talk • contribs) 22:20, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Sounds to me like you need to do some reading: WP:NPA and WP:OR, for starters. And learn to sign your posts.... Nomoskedasticity (talk) 06:57, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

"Challenges and persecution"

This section appears to me loaded with POV language and bias, from its title on. Very little of the case against him is presented, only allegations of government wrongdoing that mostly appear sourced back to a single opinion article from a Nigerian news website. The section is also heavy in leading language; Fani-Kayode's allies are "respected," actions against them are "terrorism," etc. Clearly written by the man's partisans and in need of re-write. Khazar (talk) 15:20, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

It's also worth noting that this article as a whole contains next to no criticism or controversy about this man; surely no politician is beloved universally? Khazar (talk) 15:22, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Attn: Khazar

I'm afraid that I disagree with your assesment completely. It appears to me that this article is purely factual, well-written from a neutral point of view and well-referenced. There is absolutely no advertising here and the content is not only written in a factual, objective and unbiased style but all the information is verifiable with independent third party sources as is required under the rules. And neither are any of the sources autobigraphical. Every bit of information about his background, family, education and political career is properly refrenced, direct and to the point, factual and accurate. I do not think that stating the facts of his life and antecedents constitutes advertising because there is nothing there that can be successfully challenged or fairly disputed. It is all detailed, vital and relevant information about the subject, with references, which is the sort of work and input that we should be encouraging on wikipedia.

Pl note that the history of this page reveals the fact that it has been subjected to much vandalism and scandal-mongering in the past and we need to be careful. I do conceed that a few modifications and amendments could be made in the "Challenges and Persecution" section of the the write-up though. A lot of work went into the article generally and a lot of research has been put into it over the years. The references for every major point that has been made are authentic and verifiable and they have been well documented. Most of the assertions in the essay are a matter of public knowledge in Nigeria. I think that the article adequately reveals the good, the bad and the ugly about Fani-Kayode. For example every single allegation that has been made against him, both in his public life as a politician and government official and in his private life, have all been listed and referenced there and nothing has been left out. The details of those allegations and his reactions to them have also been docuemented and referenced and this is important because he has not been found guilty by any court of law for any wrongdoing up until today even though those allegations were made and those charges filed as far back as in 2008. It is common knowledge in Nigeria that there was a lot of political persecution against President Obasanjo's loyalists by the Yar'adua government and Fani-Kayode was certainly one of those loyalists. The article not only specifically mentions the allegations that were made against him but it also reflects the fact that some of those charges and allegations were later withdrawn and dropped which I think is important to also reflect.

All this information can hardly be regarded as "an advert" for him or "not containing any controversy" because much of it is very unpleasant stuff. It is certainly not biased. Every controversial or criminal allegation that has ever been made against him whether it is from having an affair with his staff, to plotting a coup d'etat against the government or to being involved in money laundering have been mentioned and refrenced in the article even though none of those allegations have been proved or substantiated. I would conceede that a removal of the numerous examples of the persecution of his allies in order to shorten the "Challenges and Persecution" section and in order to keep the focus of the article on Fani-Kayode himself may be useful. I will attempt to re-write that section of the article and edit other parts of the write up too in order to address your concerns about biased and in order to get rid of the "advert" tag . Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tebsala (talk • contribs) 08:58, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, Tebsala, for your edits. They address many of my concerns. I also appreciate your patience with me as I know I'm blundering into this issue a bit late in the conversation.

My only remaining issue that I'd like to flag for future editing (though I don't think it necessitates a new POV tag) is that the last two sections of the article give quite a lot of attention to repeating Fani-Kayode's speeches and writings, without many secondary sources about their significance, reactions, or responses. Obviously it's important to represent his views in this article, but I feel that more context would also be helpful. To give a small example, the phrases "The article was widely read in Nigeria" or "very controversial and highly celebrated" appear to be unsourced, and a minor bit of puffery (per WP:PEA). (Since they're unsourced, I'm going ahead and removing them for now; same thing for the poem claim). Presenting Fani-Kayode's views in such detail and making unsourced claims for their impact--without a secondary source explaining why those views are significant, having an impact, have been responded to by others, etc.--makes it feel almost like a campaign page, though I know this isn't your intent. I think this article would be strengthened if we could have some context on these sections, and better substantiate the claims of the popularity of Fani-Kayode's writing. Make sense? --Khazar (talk) 15:05, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

I've tried to take out what seems to me to be some peacock terms here--I think it helps with the tonal issue I was having earlier. Let me know if these edits make sense to you. --Khazar (talk) 15:12, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Attn: KHAZAR

Thanks for your efforts. I completely agree with you on the additional editing that you did. As a matter of fact, if I may, I would still like to trim the article down a little further myself by removing a couple of paragraphs in the literary column which I think are superflous and unecessary. I had purposed to do that yesterday but I somehow overlooked it. Once done this should make the whole article a little bit more concise. Hope that's ok by you. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tebsala (talk • contribs) 23:37, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Looks great to me. Glad to be working with you! -- Khazar (talk) 04:59, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Attn: KHAZAR I had to remove another paragraph again. Its a pleasure working with you too.Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tebsala (talk • contribs) 15:39, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Allegation of Tribalism.

Accusations of tribalism

David Oluwafemi Adewunmi Abdulateef Fani-Kayode ( Femi Fani-kayode) is a known tribalist as evidenced in some of his essays in August, 2013, where he gloated about the women of another ethnic group that he had been intimate with. In one of his essays, he described the Igbos, an ethnic group in Nigeria of more than 40 million people as "collectively unlettered, uncouth, uncultured, unrestrained and crude in all their ways". His particular hatred for this group is partly hinged on his being envious of the success of this group and has also been traced back to his witnessing, as a six-year, of how his father was disciplined by an army captain of Igbo ethnicity.

The above is untru as Chief Femi Fani Kayode has written a rejoinder to dispel some of this lies.

Preceding unsigned comment added by Babuyanma (talk) 20:22, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

References

Controversies and tribalism

There looks to be an edit war going on over the section on tribalism. This needs to stop. I'm requesting page protection via pending changes as a BLP issue and, given that it is a BLP removing the content for now. This is not a judgment of who is correct or whether or not he is a tribalist, but a matter of Wikipedia policy. The text, copied below, is blatantly POV, with statements like "his particular hatred for this group is partly hinged on his being envious...". Completely unencyclopedic and non-neutral. The section I'm removing is:

David Oluwafemi Adewunmi Abdulateef Fani-Kayode ( Femi Fani-kayode) is a known tribalist [55] as evidenced in some of his essays in August, 2013 [56],[57], where he gloated about the women of another ethnic group that he had been intimate with. In one of his essays, he described the Igbos, an ethnic group in Nigeria of more than 40 million people as "collectively unlettered, uncouth, uncultured, unrestrained and crude in all their ways". His particular hatred for this group is partly hinged on his being envious of the success of this group and has also been traced back to his witnessing, as a six-year, of how his father was disciplined by an army captain of Igbo ethnicity [58].

And the other section, Accusations and allegations, is also being removed as even more inappropriate making defamatory accusations and judgments with no sources to back them up. (I'm not even going to copy it here to make it easier to delete if so deemed necessary).

As far as I can tell most of this content is being added by User:Dying monkeys. I will leave a message for him/her as well. --— Rhododendrites ^talk |  17:56, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Comments on Femi Fani-Kayode: Re: Airport incident,girlfriend and money laundering (Libel and Defamation)

He has also been involved in a money laundering scam and also he had an affair with his female employee and convinced her to have an abortion after which he sent her packing. More so, he was arrested in connection to a lady (Chioma Ansoh) with whom he connived with, in transferring to the UK, the sum of two hundred and fourty thousand US dollars ($240,000) of the Nigerian airways public fund which he looted.

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The above is not only untrue but it is also libellous,disinformation from web vandals and the gutter press.The lady(chioma ansoh)did not have any abortion and she is not Fani-Kayode's mistress.Fani-Kayode was never arrested in connection with any money laundring airport incident and the lady that was mentioned has even sued the paper that published the story about her alleged and so called money laundring in Nigeria.Even the Nigerian customs have denied it ever happened.The story was refuted on several occassions including Thisday Newspaper,Nigeria. Please dont allow such falsehood to be spread on ur site.Wikipedia is much bigger and better than that.

[[3]] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.138.1.59 (talk) 01:38, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

I am worried about this article being a forum for personal vendetta. Many statements are unencyclopedic: In November 2009, before Yar'Adua fell ill, Fani-Kayode wrote a poem titled "I Stand and I Fight".[35] In this poem, he described Yar'Adua as a "sickly tyrant with an amalekite foundation" and he predicted that "his end would soon come".[35] Fani-Kayode wrote other poems over the last few years Zezen (talk) 11:45, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

Name change?

Femi seems to have changed his name. 124.171.193.158 (talk) 23:36, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

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